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CrazyLeaksOnATrain: Gamepass on Steam will be EA and MS first party games.
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Bernd Lauert
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CrazyLeaksOnATrain
where you at fam?
01011001
Banned
halo MCC switch release + fitting JoyCons... could be possible
or xCloud on switch + joycons
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Nautilus
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Eh, doesn't make much sense. This will make Gamepass weaker as a whole, MS will make even less money on something that isn't even profitable yet(Because I have to imagine that Steam will take a cut), and I would imagine that MS would want full control over it, which putting it on Steam wouldn't give.
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Bonfires Down
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Microsoft branded joy-cons?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I can't even find the logic is this from MS' side.
ManaByte
Gold Member
If they want GamePass to be Netflix for games, then they'll want it to be on every device possible.
Lol, it’s not musou (omega force) but closer to nioh (it’s Team Ninja)
had he said Koei Tecmo instead of a generic (Mosou) he would’ve had more credibility
Gamezone
Gold Member
Probably not.
Chukhopops
Member
So the Souls-like FF is actually a Musou? I would actually be more interested if it was the case, recent Musou have been awesome.
GamePass on Steam would basically be normal GP since most GP PC games are on Steam anyway. MS would lose a percentage but gain access to a huge storefront. Don’t know if it will happen but it makes sense.
GamePass on Steam would basically be normal GP since most GP PC games are on Steam anyway. MS would lose a percentage but gain access to a huge storefront. Don’t know if it will happen but it makes sense.
Trogdor1123
Member
How would gamepass work on steam? How would they deal with the revenue sharing?
Kenpachii
Member
If it comes to steam its massive.
Gamepass will pretty much be the n1 subscription service for games then.
Could very well mean steam eats 30% of every subscription.
Gamepass will pretty much be the n1 subscription service for games then.
Could very well mean steam eats 30% of every subscription.
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Imagine being phil trying to pitch an Xbox themed Joycons with replacing ABXY buttons & LT-RT intead of Z buttons ?Microsoft branded joy-cons?
yeah it’s BS, should’ve said Minecraft themed Joycons instead crazy train
Chukhopops
Member
I’m guessing the same as EA Play which is also on Steam? Steam would probably take 30% (or less idk) of the sub cost.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Trogdor1123
Member
Surely that would make it even less sustainable wouldn't it? Unless they are expecting just incredible growth numbers of course. No idea how their content agreements scale obviously.
Bernd Lauert
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People acting like they know Gamepass isn't profitable smh.
Chukhopops
Member
I don’t see how, the costs to run the service remain the same and I don’t see why existing subs would go to the Steam version. So it’s only incremental users at the cost of a lower ARPU for those users.
I don’t know how many GP users are primarily on PC but I don’t think they have tapped out the PC market yet.
Bonfires Down
Member
It would be 20% after $50 million of revenue. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they agreed on something even lower than 20%.
Nautilus
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It isn't yet, as far as we know. MS keeps saying that they are happy with Gamepass performance(and they should be), not that they are making money out of it. And I might be wrong, but every analist so far has said that it isn't profitable yet.
But I imagine that's within MS prediction.Much like the Epic Store, this is an investment that will take years to bear fruit.It took countless years for Netflix to be profitable, for example.
splattered
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Either MS Joycons to work with GPU on Switch, or "Microsoft Elite" Joycons like their Elite controllers ..
Yeah. Branded with an MS-owned IP, that's plausible. Branded as Microsoft? No.
reinking
Gold Member
Quick question about Game Pass on the Switch. I could be very wrong about this and that is why I am asking. Is it Microsoft fans or Nintendo fans that are excited about this? Seems to be more team green than team Nintendo.
I believe if this is going to happen, MS needs to make sure that streaming to Switch is functioning at top levels before launching. It could be a big turn off out of the gate if it lag and latency are an issue.
I'm still not sold on Game Pass on Steam ether. I would welcome it since I am shifting more toward PC gaming these days and I would prefer Steam over the MS store. Will MS give up the install as an app kind of thing or will Steam just have an overlay and it pretty much still be going through the MS Store?
I believe if this is going to happen, MS needs to make sure that streaming to Switch is functioning at top levels before launching. It could be a big turn off out of the gate if it lag and latency are an issue.
I'm still not sold on Game Pass on Steam ether. I would welcome it since I am shifting more toward PC gaming these days and I would prefer Steam over the MS store. Will MS give up the install as an app kind of thing or will Steam just have an overlay and it pretty much still be going through the MS Store?
Bernd Lauert
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We know that Xbox was profitable in 2019, when Gamepass was much smaller. They should be in a good place right now.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Gamepass on Switch would mean my Switch would get used more. I'm okay with that.
Sentenza
Member
Yep.
"Bring it on. We'll take just the 10-15%.
In exchange, you get our buttload of users that would rather give up a testicle than using your client."
I can see it happen.
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Trogdor1123
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It came out in the court case that it wasn't profitable... I guess that could be a lie I suppose.
Magic Carpet
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Microsoft branded Joycons need to have the button remapping.
Nintendo has already burned it's bridge to me with the Split Pad Pro not having button remapping.
Maybe Microsoft influence on Nintendo will be an upshot.
Nintendo has already burned it's bridge to me with the Split Pad Pro not having button remapping.
Maybe Microsoft influence on Nintendo will be an upshot.
Brofist
Member
Isn't EA pass already on there? How does that work? Probably be the same
Trogdor1123
Member
I'd think that probably is close to it. Although steam isn't actually adding any content so maybe lower?
Nautilus
Banned
Xbox includes more than simply gamepass. So while a good sign, it's not definitive proof.
And while the sub numbers have increased, so must have the costs. That EA Play deal must not have been cheap for example.And like someone brought up, the epic court case revealed that Gamepass isn't profitable yet, if we are to believe it.
I'm not worried about Gamepass, and by the end of gen 9, it will probably be a big source of income for MS, but I don't see, as of now, being that big income source that MS is betting on.These things take time.
Topher
Gold Member
Yeah, it is.
https://store.steampowered.com/subscriptions/ea
I wonder what the pricing would be for a MS first party subscription. That's only a few games. Can't imagine it would be more than $5. So EA and Game Pass combined $10 perhaps?
Sentenza
Member
One of the three-four that did it. Yes.
And "forever" was since a year ago. Exactly in June 2020, in fact.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
xCloud streaming is the only thing that makes any sense. I suppose there are a handful of games on the Switch (Ori, Super Lucky's Tale, Streets of Rage 4) that are also on Game Pass... but, their userbase is already pretty divided between Console, PC, and xCloud. It'd be really weird for them to divide it even further to specifically include Switch games.I can’t see nintendo letting game pass on their system unless it’s an xCloud version and if so
Kenshin775
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This is the same guy that said EA's bigger titles will hit Gamepass Day One. So if its EA/XGS/Bethesda games Day One. That is a shit ton of popular IP: Gears, Halo, Forza, Minecraft, Madden, UFC, FIFA, Star Wars, Battlefield, Sims, Elder Scrolls, Doom, Fallout and many more. Gamepass would be a smash hit on Steam even if its just MS first party and EA. because you are still getting like 30-40 brand new games every year.
DaGwaphics
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Microsoft branded JoyCons would point me more in the direction of Nintendo games on Xbox, but we'll see if they materialize first.
The Switch already has JoyCons to use with GP. On the other hand, MS would need giro/JoyCon support for Nintendo games on their platform. Unless it's just a thing about button placement, but that would be weird because Switch users already know which button is A, B, X, Y on their controller, so the positions being different from an Xbox controller wouldn't bother them.
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