Syphon Filter
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He's right ,it came and went. Now people are talking about games out now like tomb raider or the upcoming bioshock.
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CVG: Microsoft's next-Xbox silence at GDC a "disastrous mistake"
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He's right ,it came and went. Now people are talking about games out now like tomb raider or the upcoming bioshock.
Who's saying this? You?
As we should be doing. Next gen is still a couple of months off; meanwhile good games are continuing to get released.
Is that what you think or what you want the reality to be?
People who are really have access to the kit are people like Lherre. You don't see those people screwing around.
Nonetheless, enough with this nonsense. I should have added him to my IL a long time ago.
Came and went, only people are super hyped to see what announcements or demos will follow, and a new dev(s) has been praising it every week. Of course people are going to be talking about the current new games, that doesn't mean the hype for the PS4 has evaporated.
Totally anecdotal, but I feel there is more hype around the PS4 than most were expecting, including myself. Strangely all the news, rumours and announcements have been very positive and paint Sony as having listened and learned.
Baconsammy
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Maybe because he honestly thought it was funny. It kinda is.
Tripp Daily
Member
I couldn't disagree more. I understand that not showing the casing is considered not a big deal because it shouldn't matter, but by announcing new hardware and not showing what it looks like you have not cemented in consumers mind a connection on what to buy.
I could see an everyday consumer watching the PS4 reveal and thinking that the games shown were capable of playing on the PS3 (not a troll, just some people are not looking at all the fine details that prove the game is not capable of playing on current consoles). Had Sony shown off the box I think it would have gotten much more playtime in the general news channel.
I also believe that announced too early. Their hype has peaked and is now declining. They must now work to build it back up for E3.
I don't see any "super hype" now. Pre-conference and during the hype levels were out of this world but after a week they have died considerably.
More like "Hey, don't mention us by name yet, but let it be known that your game is not only coming to the PS4/Wii U".
Syphon Filter
Member
It's anecdotal.
Syphon Filter
Member
You call developer praise hype?
Well it's...
Developer bias mileage may vary.
At least one person is using my gif.
Dismissal? Can you point to a source. He was one of the developers that was positive after the reveal. What changed his mind?
Baconsammy
Banned
If so, what then of Carmack's dismissal of the PS4? Anti-hype?
SniperHunter
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People are excited about ps4 for sure. Two construction guys from work and a security lady were excited about it. But they said it will retail for $1000 lol I heard something about 2x the cost of ps3
Off-Kilter
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Isn't there allegedly an Xbox event in a few weeks?
I fail to see the big deal about this.
I fail to see the big deal about this.
Not even Microsoft acknowledge Durango lol.
Do they expect it to be made out of platinum?
I'm beginning to think this, too. Sony were probably so desperate to get the jump on MS, but jumped too early, and Sony must now be a little confused why MS have not reacted at all. Sony could have waited a little longer and put together a better presentation.
It adds to it, yes. I certainly get more hyped the more I hear all the positivity coming from the devs, about stuff typically not associated with Sony consoles. Ie ease of development etc.
SniperHunter
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Carmack never said anything bad about ps4, he was actually excited about 8gb ram
We suddenly have the memory retention of goldfish. Playstation huhwuzit? It's all about Army of Two, that's all I can focus on for the next 15 seconds.
Dismissal? He said he couldn't talk about it freely yet but Sony made some wise engineering choices. That's it.
Are you making shit up for the second page in a row? Tsk tsk
What makes you think Microsoft hasn't reacted? Shortly after Sony's presentation xboxevent.com was registered. In fact, it was registered the NEXT day.
Ravensmash
Member
It's an opinion piece, you should expect hyperbole because the author is trying to raise a point, a point that many people may agree with.
As a side note, I do feel that Microsoft should reveal soon - there is significant interest being pushed towards the PS4 (certainly for me, certainly for other posters, certainly for other people who read about the reveal) and Sony are in a nice position now where they've announced a launch window and can spend E3 showing off launch titles yet further. I can't see MS wanting to wait too much longer than Sony, but then again I'm sure they've got it all worked out internally - or at least I hope so, would be nice to have a real choice when it comes to my next console purchase.
Alx
Member
We should have a metric based on the number of created gifs and avatars to measure hype level.
But I agree, the hype level was very high near the conference, but right now we only get droplets of information, and nothing really exciting. It's not really surprising though, there's no way Sony could (or should) keep a high hype level for 7 months. It will rise and fall depending on specific events (GDC, E3, MS reveal, pre-launch...), but right now the tide is low.
Doesn't seem like it from this thread, at least. I don't agree with it either.
Baconsammy
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Yeah, that's my bad. American Maghee said it. Got my Doom guys messed up. Sorry.
Made up, eh? Like you did with the John Blow bit on the prior page that I had to correct for you?
There was significantly more interest in the PS3 than the "Xbox 1.5" prior to its release too. Didn't work out so well. It's not the reveal that matters. It's the execution of the launch.
Neuromancer
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MS knows what they're doing. They always do.
No, it's a hyperbole piece with an outrageous title intended to grab as many hits as possible. Thinking otherwise is naïveté at its finest.
JCreasy
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Uh what exactly did you correct? Blow said exactly what me and that other poster said?
uncledonnie
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The PS4 developer hype primarily started after the reveal. Don't be surprised to see the same thing after the XBOX reveal when developers are allowed to, you know, talk about it. Until then I don't see how anyone can view the dev feedback as more favorable to Sony.
I do think Sony potentially jumped the gun a bit revealing so early, but E3 will likely be a reset for MS and Sony anyway in terms of building expectations.
I do think Sony potentially jumped the gun a bit revealing so early, but E3 will likely be a reset for MS and Sony anyway in terms of building expectations.
American McGee has been quite bearish on consoles overall. But people who are actually interested in making console titles have been pretty positive about the PS4.
Baconsammy
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You used Blow to backup someone else's claim that Microsoft wasn't communicating with indies about the next Xbox. It's pure and utter nonsense. Blow wasn't interested, he wasn't refused anything.
googleplex
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That wasn't true with the Wii and it still not true with it's predecessor.
I think these are valid points, but to be honest the "PS4 event" was not just for consumers.
I do not think a home video game console holds as much design weight as say a phone or a tablet. It is not something that you carry around everyday. Sure its appearance matters but it is not critical.
While they may have gotten more initial press coverage I think this was a calculated decision. When MS shows their box in April, Sony can show off a couple of games, a feature or two and maybe the actual design. That way, whatever article is written about the NextBox will likely have the PS4 mentioned as well. The advantage is now Sony gets uncluttered, almost exclusive air time. I think that is a worth while trade off.
The biggest mistake Sony made, and there was not much they could do about this, was the "PS4 Event" was mostly promises. Most of the services they showed will not be available this year. If they had Gakai on stage, doing all the things they said it can/will do (streaming PS1-3 games, gamecasting/controlling, etc), then I would pretty much say Sony has this in the bag.
MS has all the opportunity to not just make promises but actually show features that consumers will want/be able to use on day 1.
The last few pages of this thread are comedy gold, keep up the show everyone it's rather entertaining watching the bias back and forth arguments. The usual suspects for each platform has already gathered, so I expect nothing but fanboy dribble being thrown around as fact.
To those who think MS/Sony can't make mistakes just take a look at their past products, nothing is certain.
Keep that in mind.
To those who think MS/Sony can't make mistakes just take a look at their past products, nothing is certain.
Keep that in mind.
Baconsammy
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Yep, he seems to be on the mobile bandwagon.
dukeoflegs
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Why write "This is a disastrous mistake" and then have the following sentence be:
That sentence is what happens at GDC. More games, licenses, partnerships, etc are talked about and created away from the convention center (in hotels or other quiet meeting areas).
From what I know, it's not unlikely.
Syphon Filter
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it was true with wii and now true. so you ar telling me wii and gamecube were competing with ps2 and xbox simultaneously?
iceatcs
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and have twitter account too. Then you are godman/lady
This makes very little difference to the overall impact of the system. Sounds like this "disastrous mistake" really boils down to butt-hurt fans who are disappointed at the no-show, because you know, everything revolves around them and their pride/joy. In reality, this move - or lack thereof - doesn't make one iota of a difference except that early exposure would have taken some consumer focus away form the current Xbox sooner than MS hoped for.
Regardless to what they could have possibly shown at GDC, all eyes will be on E3 to see who has the better showcase or make the most impact. It's also possible that Microsoft might had perceived that Sony was hoping for a more immediate response from them - which would have indicated some level of panic - but MS didn't bite. As much as some fanboys were quick to 'dismiss' Durango after PS4's unveiling, this shows more confidence on their(MS) part in waiting for the bigger stage(E3) to duke it out. It was foolish to underestimate them then, and even more so now.
On top of all that, they may as well use the extra time to add some polish on their games, in addition to entering E3 as "the console the media is most curious about."
"Disastrous mistake"... pfft.
Regardless to what they could have possibly shown at GDC, all eyes will be on E3 to see who has the better showcase or make the most impact. It's also possible that Microsoft might had perceived that Sony was hoping for a more immediate response from them - which would have indicated some level of panic - but MS didn't bite. As much as some fanboys were quick to 'dismiss' Durango after PS4's unveiling, this shows more confidence on their(MS) part in waiting for the bigger stage(E3) to duke it out. It was foolish to underestimate them then, and even more so now.
On top of all that, they may as well use the extra time to add some polish on their games, in addition to entering E3 as "the console the media is most curious about."
"Disastrous mistake"... pfft.
Lol. Where did blow ever say he wasn't interested? He hasn't said one way or the other. Why are you making stuff up?
The poster said that some indies are completely in the dark about MS' console, you ask where he got it from and I post an interview of an indie saying exactly that. Help me find the disconnect, or at least cite a source for your claims that Blow never tried to reach out to MS..