I can't believe people are actually saying that the durability bug isn't an issue. As a katana user, I ended up having to use three different weapons during a single boss fight on multiple occasions. Having your shit break all the time doesn't make the game more challenging in any interesting way, it's just tedious.
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Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin announced for PS4/XBO/PC - April 2015
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Mattdaddy
Gold Member
Yesssss.
Yeah I pressed ahead like a stubborn idiot and died no less than 1,000 times.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Sorry your shit broke but I honestly never had an issue with it.
It never annoyed me, yeah. I kept moving forward and relied on new bonfires to repair my weapon.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
they nerfed lightning spear? Did that happen when the dlc originally released?
I really liked my faith build in vanilla :/
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I think sometime before the first DLC, I liked my faith build too
SRTtoZ
Member
I'm not sure about the time frame but I continued playing DS2 about 4-5 months ago on PC (no DLC) and I saw patch notes for balancing, and yea my build was complete shit after the update.
Here it is, it was changed back in July of last year:
Decrease the number of uses for the following Miracles and Hexes:
Lightning Spear
Great Lightning Spear
Sunlight Spear
Emit Force
Soul Appease
Great Resonant Soul
Profound Still
Increase the damage for the following Miracle through correction to status values:
Lightning Spear
Great Lightning Spear
Sunlight Spear
Emit Force
Which I would have been okay with but they ended up decreasing the damage by accident and never fixed it.
FairXchange
Member
Is the increased rate of weapon decay making its way into this new version? If so, why?!
Schweinehund
Member
Damn I knew they reduced charges but they didn't increase damage? That's really lame. Loved throwing lightning bolts.
Seems like the developers were busy making new enemy placements instead of fixing the game
AWizardDidIt
Member
When people complain about durability I feel like they're talking about a different game entirely. It's just never been an issue for me and I have trouble imagining how other people could have issues. Like is there some way the game is being played by people having the issue that is fundamentally different than how I play it? I don't doubt it's been an issue for some, I just wonder how that issue seems to happen for some people but be a complete non-issue for others.
Are you smashing your weapons into walls, or absolutely refusing to have a second weapon equipped?
I only played DkS2 on the PC, and I never thought once that durability was a big issue. I'd even say it was meant to happen that way, since they give you three slots per hand for weapons, and the threshold to maintain fast roll is higher than it was in previous games. I guess it sucks for people that build a character around one weapon, but it's not like repair powder is in titanite slab availability.
Red Liquorice
Member
The last time I played (post-patch) the decrease in lightning spears really didn't make a difference, I mean you can buy infinite spell herbs, so you have to munch one or two more than you did pre-patch, it's nothing really.
mordecaii83
Member
Was armor/ring durability affected as well? I know it seemed like my Third Dragon Ring would break all the time.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
If I am LOVING Bloodborne will I like this?
LegalEagleMike
Member
most likely
30 minutes? That's a long, long time. It automatically repairs every single time you go to a bonfire.
Deified Data
Banned
They said they were going to in pre-patch notes but it must have been a typo or miscommunication because it was never "fixed" in subsequent patches.
They may as well have removed them from the game for how useful they'll be to you now.
I feel like the latter is what people are doing. They want to use that one weapon they have all day every day without switching out.
You have three weapon slots in each hand. Switch up sometimes.
thewhitehawk
Member
Everything that I found missing or lacking in Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne has in spades. The lack of ambience of many sceneries, the poorly tuned combat based around encounters with multiple enemies, some unfairly hard unless you "cheese" them... and although there are a lot of encounters with multiple enemies in Bloodborne none of them feel unfair or like they have to be cheesed, you have a fair chance of surviving as you do of screwing up and failing but it doesn't feel like the game is working against me and Dark Souls 2, in many ways did.
I will probably end up picking up this edition of the game some time in the future, but only when it's heavily discounted. I agree with you that DS2 isn't a bad game, but compared to its predecessors and now its successor, it's really lacking in many many ways in my opinion.
AWizardDidIt
Member
But at the same time, Bloodborne is really crucially flawed in ways that DS2 excels at as well. Things like build and gameplay diversity, functioning multiplayer, item drops in the world to reward exploration, diverse environments and landscapes, reasonable load times, respec options, and quantity of content (not that quantity is necessarily always a good thing, but even without DLC, I feel Dark Souls 2 is easily 50% longer than Bloodborne).
I mean, don't get me wrong, I am LOVING Bloodborne at the moment. But I think there are things about Dark Souls 2 that are simply better and I wish that they had taken some of those design elements over to BB.
I think you most definitely would.
I needed to swap weapons (usually the two copies of the Rapier) on most of the longer stretches of the game or else waste a ring slot on Knuckle +2.
Schweinehund
Member
To add onto this you can play very similar to bloodborne by power stancing and just roll dodging everything. Hell they even reward you in game because it does a ton of damage if you play this way.
IDK DS2 is much harder at the start.
Sure, but non-issue does not mean I didn't repair my weapon at all, it meant that it was never an annoyance. Using repair powder or carrying a second weapon against regular enemies, in specific areas, isn't a problem.
AWizardDidIt
Member
If the developers target it for consoles,I don't see why not.
If DS3 is on the same level as DS2 graphically,I think it could be possible.
thats just subjective...i never had an issue with the katanas. the only bullshit i call in thsi game is that ring that allows you to die and not lose anything. you could repair that ring everytime and never lose anything when you died. now that is bullshit.
AWizardDidIt
Member
Oh I agree with you. I just don't trust that they'll do it.
Chance Hale
Member
If anything it made me more excited for it. I'm loving Bloodborne but the differences actually make it play very differently so having both of these is pretty great. I never played the dlc either.
I doubt it will be though, graphics sell sadly and framerate almost always gets compromised on consoles. Let's hope though.
AWizardDidIt
Member
This is exactly how I feel.
I've got a question. I've been playing through Dark Souls 2 recently and don't have any of the DLC. I think I'm pretty far into the game as I'm currently at the
boss fight. Should I go ahead and run through the rest of the game before SotFS comes out or just wait and then replay up to that point and move on fresh?
Demon of Song
The only thing that's kinda worrisome. Is there any information about what this means? I hope these are just some adjustments better match the better lightning system and not something that makes the nextgen version superior in some way that could easily be done on the old one as well.
Question time. How's the dlc for DS2? Haven't got any of them so this could be a nice moment to pick them up along with the patch. When does this patch come out?
StealthPandemic
Banned
Eh, should I buy this? I never played a Dark Souls game (or Demon's Souls, or Bloodborne). Does it have a strong story behind it? I only like game with a very strong....story (I guess we can say).
Iva Demilcol
Member
Only it does not. Weapons in DS2 (even in consoles) always degraded faster than their counterparts in dark souls one or demon's souls, they compensated that by adding an additional weapon slot for each hand.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The DLC is pretty good IMO. The level design is more complex, generally, and each DLC area is aesthetically very different from each other.
As for the DX11 / next-gen version adjustments, they're talking about remixing enemy positions in all the levels and allowing enemies to travel farther before tethering. There's a lot of enemies in places they never showed up before, including encounters with big ones. Enemies can also pursue the player farther.
I believe there are also level design changes such as new shortcuts in certain zones.
Deified Data
Banned
As far as I know there aren't any meaningful lighting adjustments.
From what I've seen of previews (mostly Forest of Fallen Giants), From's idea of improved enemy placement is larger mobs. Coupled with the weapon durability bug (which some people mistakenly view as a feature) I imagine you'll have to take 2-3 weapons to make it between bonfires.
The DLC is pretty good. Level design is great, bosses are a mixed bag.
TimeEffect
Member
So even though I am pretty upset to hear about the flaws with this game (level design, frame invincibility, enemy difficulty being made difficult by throwing more at you and giving them cheap advantages like huge lock ons, etc), I am still wanting to play it for being a Souls game.
While I enjoy BB, I want to also get back into the lore, shields, spells, and builds of Souls.
I just wont be able to shake off the criticisms that I read, but it still sounds like a good game.
I am curious about what changes they are making, but since we dont seem to know the extent of this, I guess Ill have to wait
While I enjoy BB, I want to also get back into the lore, shields, spells, and builds of Souls.
I just wont be able to shake off the criticisms that I read, but it still sounds like a good game.
I am curious about what changes they are making, but since we dont seem to know the extent of this, I guess Ill have to wait
Audioboxer
Member
The durability bug hasn't been fixed and is coming to consoles? :/
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
For all the criticism the game got I actually enjoyed it a great deal. The big thing it has going for it: it feels like a really epic journey. The pacing is good and unlike Dark Souls 1, which kind of falls apart after Anor Londo, DS2 does save the best areas for last. A steady progression through increasingly good zones to the finale.
TimeEffect
Member
What else does DaS2 do better?
Comparing it to BB, it seems the NG, build variety, and overall exploration rewards is better... right?
(No spoilers please)
I wouldn't go into it with that attitude. Depending on why you like these games then a lot of the criticisms could mean fuck-all to you. I have some issues with the game (soul memory, mainly) but I have found plenty of faults with Bloodborne as well.
If you like PvP then this is going to be where its at.
Isn't there a new item to combat that?