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Dark Souls PC 1080p. Confirmed, like, for real.
- Thread starter morningbus
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Release it in a playable, same-as-console but 1080p experience. Continue to work on it and support it with patches.
YOUR PC DIED
brain_stew
Member
Why? This is a commercial product and the.PC isn't exactly starved of content. Namco should have never let From develop the port, there's plenty of other developers that could have done a much better job.
Backfoggen
Banned
Man this could rival Saints Row 2 in terms of shittyness.
Brofist
Member
But it's not so bad since they're telling us how shitty it is in advance!
Actually, being that frank gives me the impression they're making as serious an effort as they can. Helps they're the original developers and they didn't just outsource it to another company's C team or whatever. Still, I'm going to play it safe until I have a better idea of how it'll end up running.
jim-jam bongs
Member
help me pc gaf, am I allowed to be cautiously excited for this or do I need to start throwing e-bricks through e-windows?
Glass Rebel
Member
Get a new sarcasm detector, your current one seems to be broken
I could tell the same to you
INCEPTION
jim-jam bongs said:
You are allowed, just don't expect anybody to share the excitement.
Mr_Appleby
Member
complex collide-able geometry, long view distance, lots of breakable physics objects, lots of enemy AI needing to path around said geometry and objects.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
No thats a serious question in 2012 1080p on PC is the lowest resolution playable(unless you have a laptop thats at lower res).
Port or not 1080p isnt something that people should show off, its expected, games from 200X can do 1080 anything released in the 2010s that has to list 1080 as a feature should be destroyed.
The standard is 2560 x 1600 16:10 and 2560 x 1440 16:9
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on their facebook page they said it's their high-Performance Desktop
and from what I can see on that page they use latest Nvidia (GTX 6xx even)and AMD cards on their PCs.
so this sound like a completely non optimized and a disaster of a port.
Glass Rebel
Member
Holy shit if true. Shouldn't have bothered at all.
No it's not.
toddhunter
Member
No the standard is 1080p and this is fine.
From their custom page, it seems the bare minimum they would show there is a 2120 and a 550Ti/7770.
That should pull more than 30FPS at 720 for sure.
Myoclonic Jerk
Member
I've never played Demons' Souls. Do I have to if I'm planning on getting this game?
And for those who played both, which one is better?
thanks
And for those who played both, which one is better?
thanks
ElectricBlue187
Member
Man, so close. But no Origin.
TheChocolateWar
Member
Most of the people I know on PCs play at resolutions higher than 1080p unless they are using a TV to play games. (Which is silly, but doable)
TheChocolateWar
Member
But it will probably be upscaling and not native resolutions of the textures. Thats a problem.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
The game can still render the 3D models at a higher resolution, the textures don't matter.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
There is no "upscaling" on PC (in 99% of all games -- you would have to deliberately implement it), there's only the native rendering resolution. And no game features textures designed for more than 1080p, that doesn't mean that the game doesn't look massively better and cleaner at higher resolutions.
toddhunter
Member
No requirement to play it, they are only linked in style and gameplay.
You can have long arguments about which is better. This probably means both are well worth playing.
Personally I found Demons Souls to be the better game, but it came first and hence had the surprise/magic factor. I still think it is the tighter, more focused experience. Dark Souls has improvements, but I feel it is more up and down, with the last 1/3 of the game being particularly bad.
TheChocolateWar
Member
Recent drivers for cards have allowed upscaling on most games in terms of resolutions. I'm aware of this because I used to run my PC only on a TV which supports up to 1080p. Some games used to not have the option to go any higher. Got a driver update for my ATI card and BAM, I could suddenly pick higher resolutions. All it really did was stretch the image and make it look all shitty. The question is; Will you have to use hardware acceleration (which looks nasty) or will the assets already be in the game?
Palette Swap
Member
You're out of your mind. These should be supported but definitely aren't the standard.
edit:
According to Steam Survey:
Factor in any inaccuracy you'd like but this definitely screams there are way more people on 1080p than on your so-called standards.
edit: hah, beaten while I was editing.
toddhunter
Member
According to steam 0.9% combined between the two as of May 2012 (Up 0.08%!).
So yeah.
Some mediocre ports like Halo 2 and Prototype only have preset resolutions to select and don't pay attention to resolutions read from the driver.
Eh, I played Dark Souls first and then Demon's Souls, and I really liked both in different ways. Dark Souls' huge, expansive world was just as awesome to me as the hub world and "levels" of Demon's Souls. I really hope for the third installment they make (if they do make one) that they'll change things up again in a huge way like that, but keep that same, core gameplay.
You do know that texture mapping by definition is up/down scaling of textures on a surface, right?
TheThunder
Member
If I can't run this thing at 1080p, 60fps with my 3570k/GTX670 due to their shitty optimization then yeah, pass.
Might as well get the $15 console dlc if that's the case.
Might as well get the $15 console dlc if that's the case.
immortal-joe
Member
I raised this question in the announcement thread - we are not aware of any awesome From Software ports to PC (at least from this team) so we should have always been cautious with this.
People weren't just "cautious" about this, they were ridiculously negative. How else can you believe that it's locked to 720p? And a lot of posters actually bought that.
immortal-joe
Member
Specifically, my point was about optimization and stability. People were thinking "woo hoo stable frame-rate", but neither Demons Souls nor Dark Souls had stable code, so it would have been impressive for a typically console dev to optimize this game really well for PC when they couldn't do that for a console.
EDIT: typing errors ahoy!
Because they originally demoed it locked at 720p and their messaging on the game has been ridiculously ineffective.
I understand that they're a Japanese console developer and don't really understand what they're getting into with a PC game but they should have gotten someone who knows the platform and the audience to explain the facts of life to them.
Metalmurphy
Member
Are you mad? Most PCs struggle to have good performance at 1900x1080, many of them don't even have monitors that support it, and 2560 x 1600 is absolutely overkill.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
Well I guess I'm back in the wait-and-see bandwagon again. Bamco/From can't be this dumb can they? If they can't properly port it themselves why didn't they go after someone who could. I already have Dark Souls, this really isn't any reason at all for me to be interested in double dipping, if the game will be the same.
Honestly I'd rather them delay the game than release it like that.
Honestly I'd rather them delay the game than release it like that.
Absolutely. The Sony FW900, for instance, handles resolutions higher than 1080p and is widescreen. Beautiful display but not really practical.
For serious gaming I use my Pioneer Elite plasma. I have a 27" 2560x1440 LCD as well, but it simply can't match the picture quality of the plasma. Not even close, really, aside from extra clarity.
Also, 2560x1440 is difficult to drive. There are a lot of games where I simply have to drop down to 1920x1080 in order to maintain a completely consistent framerate on a GTX580. Also, downscaling 1440p to 1080p (on the plasma) produces a stupidly clean image comparatively.
So, from an AV enthusiast, I find that PC monitors capable of higher resolution simply aren't all their cracked up to be. At least high-end LCD TVs support high-density LED arrays that can be dynamically adjusted. PC monitors just can't reach the same levels of black reproduction or motion resolution.
There is a time and a place for LCDs, but don't act like owning a 1440p or 1600p LCD is somehow superior to specific 1080p displays simply because of the higher resolution.
That's really the main complaint. 1440/1600p are quite demanding and not really worth the hit yet.
shinobi602
Member
Am I missing something here?
Why wouldn't it be 1080p?
Why wouldn't it be 1080p?
1080p confirmed for PC? LOL
Yeah, that's kind of expected if it's on PC
Oh shit...
I wouldn't think too much of it. From Software tends to be over dramatic about these things.
Yeah going to have to just wait and see on this. At first I was super hyped but I own a PC so I can play my games at my native resolution at ~60FPS. If the engine isn't optimized to handle this then the game became a lot less awesome for me personally. It will be interesting to see how it turns out though, I have some faint ray of hope in all this dark news.