If you run GTA 4 on settings equal to the 360 even a moderate PC obliterates console performance.
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If you run GTA 4 on settings equal to the 360 even a moderate PC obliterates console performance.
I get the impression GTA4 isn't THAT bad of a port anyway, I'm sure they could've optimized better but it really shined then on Core i7s, and now I imagine a lot of people have those or more advanced versions rather than dual cores. Now SR2, that's a porting fuckup beyond almost all others recently.
Mr_Appleby
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obviously a fake page that fake guy set up. faker.
fake edit:
i love how this is one of the key features:
Ivory Samoan
Member
GFWL confirmed, then. Just as well I've never had any serious issues with it... yet.
walking fiend
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a moderate 'gaming' PC probably, but definitely not a moderate 'PC' [iirc, one of the main issues for example was that it was heavily bounded by the CPU and couldn't take advantage of better graphic cards]
PC System requirements:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...rements-reveal-multiplayer-microphone-support
Oops didn't realize the EB listing posted already had these too. Sorry for the bump.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...rements-reveal-multiplayer-microphone-support
Oops didn't realize the EB listing posted already had these too. Sorry for the bump.
Glass Rebel
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Yep, just like Arkham City bombed. I'm sure Namco will be in tears if it sells the same as AC.
So, let's recap.
This already sounds better than many highly regarded PC ports.
Really makes you wonder about the pages and pages of negativity surrounding the port. Personally, I feel like ever since it was announced there has been a faction on GAF that tried to find fault with it at any cost. (Probably a lot of overlap with faction that argued vehemently against a PC port during the petition)
- moderate system requirements
- unlocked resolution
- unlocked framerate
- anti-aliasing option
- mouse/kb and gamepad support
This already sounds better than many highly regarded PC ports.
Really makes you wonder about the pages and pages of negativity surrounding the port. Personally, I feel like ever since it was announced there has been a faction on GAF that tried to find fault with it at any cost. (Probably a lot of overlap with faction that argued vehemently against a PC port during the petition)
I think that had to do with everything after the the initial announcement sounding like an absolute disaster. GFWL is never going to sit well with people, but if everything else is OK then it's worth supporting.
Mognet
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So there is a confirmation on unlocked framerate and AA?
Apologies. I haven't been following this thread too closely.
I want to get on the EB games offer but I also want to have Dark Souls pop up on my Steam friend's list... d:
GFWL games don't offer a code to enter on steam right? I usually spend my money digitally when I get games for PC.
Apologies. I haven't been following this thread too closely.
I want to get on the EB games offer but I also want to have Dark Souls pop up on my Steam friend's list... d:
GFWL games don't offer a code to enter on steam right? I usually spend my money digitally when I get games for PC.
The AA option was reported multiple times in the E3 build. The only confirmation for the unlocked framerate is a forum post, but the same poster also reported the EB bundle before it became common knowledge.
I'll just get the physical version and make a link in Steam. People will still see when you play it.
I wish I hadn't already beat the game on PS3...
They didn't give a shit about all the fans who specifically asked them to not use GFWL, so yeah I guess they already lost thousands and thousands of sales and should blame themselves only when this bombs.
The effect of their awful PR messaging should not be blamed on the potential audience.
My main problem has always been GFWL. I won't be buying it no matter how technically good it is, the apparent shittiness of the port has just been a joke.
Mognet
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That's true. I guess I could do that...
Thanks for the reply.
Hah, I know how you feel but I'm still pretty excited about the new content. I'll probably end up purchasing the DLC on the PS3 when the times comes around as well.
Backfoggen
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One of the first articles after the announcement spoke of no change in resolution and no 60 fps. I think its acceptable to be wary after reading something like that.
People just want a good game to get a good port.
EatinOlives
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Is the physical edition on EB Games an AU exclusive or something? I don't see it in the US site.
There's no physical release in the US.
EatinOlives
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Import it? It's not like PC does that silly "region lock" thing.
EatinOlives
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I could, though given how AU games are incredibly expensive I was banking on it being much cheaper. Not that it's "expensive" given the sheer amount of stuff you get for the money, but still...
Doesn't GFWL do that?
I think you usually just get screwed if you live in an unsupported country and don't make up kosher credentials to play the games. Obviously in NA this isn't a problem.
If you don't want the mouse/pad then you can get it much cheaper.
I never heard about that, must be game specific. Which games did this? It sucks a lot.
EatinOlives
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I can definitely go without the mouse/pad.Sold my 360 copy in place.
Hopefully it comes out at a 40$ price point also.
The low Requirements also give me a lot of hope. Even if they didn't improve on it too much, natural brute forcing should make it where it will always have a constant framerate
Visualante2
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The only problem GFWL really poses is that if people exploit the system to fuck up the game for people. My experience with GTA IV multiplayer was bad, lots of hackers, regular players were using Rockstar IDs to get achievements. If they hack the humanity stuff then they can enter players games and ruin it for you.
And given how problematic it is to patch via GFWL if From decide to not patch, the game could remain fucked up and that'd be a shame.
And given how problematic it is to patch via GFWL if From decide to not patch, the game could remain fucked up and that'd be a shame.
Unlocked resolution was confirmed? Thank god, on account of those requirements, 60FPS should come easily.
So it's only GFWL and we're done here. Make it happen Bamco!
TricksterLoki
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Only 4gb... that seems quite small...
If it gets them to release an Armored Core with full Steamworks integration, I'll buy multiple copies.
But my hopes are at ground zero.
Felix Lighter
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The assets haven't changed so it makes sense.
It's not really, there's relatively little voice acting, only one pre rendered cutscene, music only in boss fights/"safe" areas, and the world doesn't have a lot of detail.
Max Payne 3 takes up 30gb of space.
Alex
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That's an uncompressed PC version of a game. Not an Xbox 360 port with some added knobs and dials.
Most people wish they had designed for the pc in the first place, that way we can have a PC version with better textures, features like scaling ui or hiding the ui, quicksaving, quickloading, etc
I wasn't saying it's a large amount, I was saying it's not a suprising size considering the design of the game.
Some people also wish for a pony.
(Also, the game already "quicksaves", and loading of any kind would break the game design)
Your "recap" leaves out the fact that From originally stated that the resolution would be locked at the consoles' and so would the framerate. Maybe that's why you're so bewildered that people would criticize the game based on the facts available at the time.
You might also want to look at statements from this thread, like the game having framerate issues at 720p, as being more substantive than the "moderate system requirements." There is, after all, no standard for what minimum system requirements mean, other than that the game will run.
Well, at least it's broken in an amusing way like RDR... partially anyway. Don't think there was anything bunny about SR2's problems unless you consider the minimum system requirements a hilarious prank.At release gta4 on PC was the most broken game ever
They didn't directly say this. They said not to expect 60fps, and some journalist reported that some things that you would expect out of pc version might not be there. Resolution comments were clarified to be about textures.
They never stated that quite so clearly. A confused interview translated from Japanese could be construed to state that, and people were all too eager to jump on it despite of how ridiculous the idea of a resolution lock in a 3D PC game is. Just read the old thread. Extraordinary claims like that should require extraordinary evidence, and I believe they wouldn't have been accepted quite so readily if people weren't already looking for reasons to hate the port.
What about the reports of it running at 60 FPS on a 6000 series AMD GPU? Those seem at least as reliable as the rumours about framerate issues.
They never did this. People went buck wild with the quotes given.
Ghost_Protocol
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This. The misunderstandings were epic.