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Dark Souls series tops 8 million copies shipped (940K Japan, 7M+ abroad)
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Well considering the fact Demon Souls and Bloodborne are comparable in quality to Dark Souls and ARE Sony published exclusives. It's more of a matter of Dark Souls making these sales specifically because of it's non exclusivity.
If you mean they let it slip through their fingers by not publishing it and then also allowing it onto PC, then yes they did.
But I doubt they would have let it go to PC, so either way Sony would have lost out.
I am not even talking about the exact sales numbers here as it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that a multiplatform release probably sells better then an exclusive.
But Shu fucked up by letting the Souls games go multiplatform. It would have been a great bullet point for all those list wars.
Shu didn't bring Demon's Souls to the west so that Namco could swoop in and build a relationship with From for this series.
Signing From for Bloodborne after the Souls games exploded in popularity and probably paying a hefty sum for it doesn't seem like such a great deal to me.
They probably could have had the Souls games exclusive if they didn't fuck up the Demon's Souls release.
Thankfully!
Yup.
Dark Souls II bashing really needs to stop, it's annoying as hell. EVERY SINGLE THREAD gets derailed to Dark Souls vs Dark Souls II, and it always starts with "Dark Souls II sucks".
I've seen a thread titled "loved Bloodborne, should I play Dark Souls II?" and I didn't even enter it, even though I love talking about Soulsborne, just to avoid the inevitable discussion.
Not saying this discussion should be banned, but there is a place and time for it. Context matters.
I've seen a thread titled "loved Bloodborne, should I play Dark Souls II?" and I didn't even enter it, even though I love talking about Soulsborne, just to avoid the inevitable discussion.
Not saying this discussion should be banned, but there is a place and time for it. Context matters.
It's hard to say for the older entries (since not all copies are tracked on Steam), but RE6 sits at 611k. Even if you assume that some of the former entries were three times as successful on PC (which seems kind of a stretch given the port quality pre-RE5) DS1 would still have outsold them.
I did search for FF7 specifically, but I didn't find even a hint of a platform split. Given that it's synonymous with PS1 and "just" sold ~10 million copies in total, I think it's really unlikely that 2 million of those were on PC.
So yeah, Dark Souls is the most successful Japanese game/franchise on PC.
I guess we can look at it this way. If FFVII and VIII had been as successful as Souls on PC, then we would have seen IX as well.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Yep.
Wiktor
Member
You mean compared to how console versions sold? Then yeah. But plenty of AAA multiplats sell comparably on PC
And I'm fucking glad. Imagine being stuck with Dark Souls 1 and 2 on PS3 at sub 30 fps. Urgh.
The Artisan
Member
hm, I feel like they should count demon souls as part of the series. that would likely put it at over 10 million copies sold yeah?
It's hard to tell. Do we have numbers for FFXI and FFXIV, we need to count them, if we are talking franchise.
It isn't counted for the same reason Bloodborne isn't. Sony IP locked to Sony platform.
The Artisan
Member
bloodborne is different because it doesn't have souls in the title and fromsoftware specified that it is not a souls installment. demon souls on the other hand is the spiritual predecessor to dark souls.
Demon Souls isn't connected to Dark Souls.
Yes, I was comparing its ratio with console sales rather than other AAA games.
This lesson makes no sense considering King's Field Exists (pre cursor to Demon Souls) and failed to gain such a popular following in the west.
The Artisan
Member
it's the spiritual predecessor...
Did you read what I was replying too? Because I was subtly pointing out how asinine the reasoning: that it's merely FROM not being HarduJapanese that has led to their success....
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Grossly over-exagerated, but typical of the mental gymnastics people use to "justify" why they haven't played this series (or the Shadow Towers).
Yes, disliking the games requires "mental gymnastics". It has nothing to do with the horrendously slow movement, slow animations, awful combat, or crappy controls. Nope. Not at all.
And?
It's not connected to the world, story or even the lore of Dark Souls in any way, that's why it's not part of the series, otherwise Dark Souls would have been "Demon Souls II" instead.
They're connected in concept but then again every game following the "Souls" format is connected in concept.
Hell, Bloodborne had more of a connection to Demon Souls considering the fact the BB alpha had multiple direct DeS references.
The Artisan
Member
and, for that reason, I think it should be counted in the cumulative sales of souls games. i'm not saying you're wrong about anything you said, but part of the reason we got dark souls is because of demon souls, they both have souls in the title, the series might as well be called "souls" since we refer to them as souls games.
Melchiah
Member
Really? Such as?
cheezcake
Member
All I know is that Father Gascoigne said umbasa, don't know about any other connections
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Not direct references, but the item description for the Empty Phantasm Shell is reminiscent of sticky white stuff... xD