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Darkest Dungeon 2 Teaser: "The Howling End"

Hell yes.

I grabbed part 1 on a sale and never got past the first few missions. I suck and keep getting frustrated.

I never could beat it without using some helpful Workshop mods, I felt Vanilla was way too punishing and grindy. Radiant update helped that a lot though.
 

isual

Member
jeez. i still have the first one and have not cleared the first dungeon.
i feel this game is great to watch other play (like on twitch), but a chore to play.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Looks like I'm not alone in feeling the first was too difficult and punishing.
 

Arkage

Banned
Despite loving the aesthetic they're going for, glad I passed on the first one as I read through these comments lol.
 
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God Enel

Member
When the members of my squad became mad in the dungeon I always became mad too.. so I stopped playing. Love everything about the game though.. but apparently I’m not the only one who sucked at it.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I bought the first game on sale. I'll get back into it one day. It has all the makings of a great game except one huge flaw. This is important for all the gamers who are thinking about getting it.....

...... you have to rotate characters in and out of your party. There's probably 15-20 classes, but due to their odd system of fatigue, mental state stats, etc...... you got to rest your characters every once in a while. Some get it worse depending how he did in the latest dungeon grind you just did. Then after a few you can get him back in the lineup.

So you can never keep your set of 4 party members always together and leveling up as a group. If you're an RPG gamers wanting to adventure as a set of characters without pinch hitting, don't bother with this game.

I didn't know this and started over in the first hour because I didn't get this whole rest in the asylum thing.
 

Helios

Member
I'm so glad Wayne June is back. That man alone could sell a game for me.
Despite loving the aesthetic they're going for, glad I passed on the first one as I read through these comments lol.
It's punishing but you can do a lot to mitigate it. Being well-prepared is extremely satisfying in this game.
EDIT: Of course, as I say this I just went in to do a scouting mission and got crit at least one time every fight and got like 4-5 ghouls.
 
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Dargor

Member
I played the first one for almost a 100 hours, never actually finished it though. Its a good game and once you actually accept some of the game's premisses it becomes even more enjoyable.

I think I even have good enough characters to do the last dungeon, but I just don't feel like it lol.
 

mcz117chief

Member
The first one is really fun if you, like Dargor said, "accept some of the game's premisses". I am a save scummer but The Darkest Dungeon is so much more fun without it (it is practically impossible now anyway). There is no time limit, you constantly upgrade your base, so save scumming here would be like save scumming in Cannon Fodder. The only way you can lose in this game is if you quit it and don't come back.
 
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klosos

Member
Nice, Darkest Dungeon is a great game, amazingly Hard and frustrating but also highly addictive, the kind od game you sit down to play for an hour then turn it off 6 hours later, just one more run.

I never thought of Darkest Dungeon 2 but now i want it, it will go up the top of my most wanted list with cyberpunk 2077
 

Saruhashi

Banned
I'm so glad Wayne June is back. That man alone could sell a game for me.

It's punishing but you can do a lot to mitigate it. Being well-prepared is extremely satisfying in this game.
EDIT: Of course, as I say this I just went in to do a scouting mission and got crit at least one time every fight and got like 4-5 ghouls.

Yeah, his voice work is just phenomenal.

Loved the original game, can't wait to pick up this one. It's punishing for sure though.

(Everyone should check out Wayne June's audiobook readings of Lovecraft, he's brilliant)
 

Helios

Member
https://www.pcgamer.com/darkest-dungeon-2-trailer/
The studio isn't announcing many details beyond the game's existence and the teaser above, but did speak to us exclusively, saying that although Darkest Dungeon's combat system will be returning in a recognizable but "tuned-up" form, the studio is focused on creating a "completely different" structure for its metagame. Darkest Dungeon 2 will initially release in Early Access.
PC Gamer: What's interesting to you about making a direct sequel to Darkest Dungeon?
Tyler Sigman and Chris Bourassa, Red Hook Studios:
We love our dysfunctional cast of characters, our atmosphere, and our world. Horror is a fantastic space to explore interesting and unconventional ideas, and we have a lot more story we want to tell. Mechanically, we also think we have some valuable nuggets (e.g. combat) and there is more there that we’d like to explore and build on. Above all, we are committed to crafting Darkest Dungeon 2 to be its own experience; it will have its own creative and thematic identity.

What gameplay and other changes are you able to talk to us about at this time?
We’re playing this pretty close to the chest! Our combat system is making a return, but we’re giving it a significant tune-up—mechanically, and in terms of presentation. Most significantly, however, we are working with a completely different metagame structure. Darkest Dungeon 2 is a game about enduring a gruelling journey, not cleaning up your backyard.

What's one of the major learnings you're bringing into the development of Darkest Dungeon 2?
We created a lot of Darkest Dungeon with only five people on the team. It took its toll on us physically and mentally, just like an epic Warrens clearing run. We can afford to be a bit more sensible this time around, and have been growing staff to match scope more reliably and realistically. However, the small team agility and creativity is still key, and we look to keep that. Ultimately, a game is only as good as the team you have making it. We put a lot of value on finding the right people and giving them an environment to be motivated creatively. We think it’s easier to do that while remaining somewhat small.

Darkest Dungeon's corrupted setting is an inseparable part of its appeal. Will the sequel be focused on the Estate and its surroundings, or a new location?
In Darkest Dungeon 2, we’re giving players a glimpse of the supernatural apocalypse twisting and distorting the world beyond the estate... and that’s all we’re going to say about that for now.

How many people is Red Hook Studios right now, and is that size something you'd like to maintain throughout this project, or change as you continue development? How would you describe the culture of the studio?
We have grown to 14 at this point, and anticipate adding another half-dozen more in the coming 18 months. Cultural fit is extremely important to us, and we aren’t in a rush to grow. We enjoy each other’s company, share drinks and play games together, but above all, we value hard work and passion. Open, ego-less discussion and brainstorming are an important part of our process—our goal as a team is to find the best possible choice, and we enjoy challenging each other and playing devil’s advocate in pursuit of that end.

What development structure do you expect to take? Will Early Access be a good fit for this project?
It’s no secret that we are big fans of the Early Access model, but we also are advocates for only doing Early Access if it makes sense for the specific game. Although there are some massive differences in structure between DD1 and DD2, the sequel is still very appropriate for an Early Access type approach.

The ability to get something into fans’ hands faster, kick the tires of the systems, and give those fans the opportunity to help shape the finishing of the game are both really important to us. Early Access is also really great for being able to alter your production plan depending on reception—a big reception can be a clear signal to invest even more in the project and pull in some of the wishlist items (there are always wishlist items) and turn them into reality.
 
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Saruhashi

Banned
If you are interested folks there was a "Design Postmortem" from the developers at GDC in 2016.
It's just over an hour long but a pretty interesting watch.

 
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e0n

Member
PCGamer has a print issue for the game. It still has turn-based line combat with skills, but there's less party management and it's more focused on a wagon journey with only four people.
- DDII is a "road trip, a roguelike mash-up of Darkest Dungeon and The Oregon Trail"
- Shorter runs similar to Slay the Spire branching paths
- More emphasis on party member interactions, can't have same character class again
- No upgradeable armour/weapons, no stats like accuracy or dodge, uses tokens to represent effects
 
PCGamer has a print issue for the game. It still has turn-based line combat with skills, but there's less party management and it's more focused on a wagon journey with only four people.
- DDII is a "road trip, a roguelike mash-up of Darkest Dungeon and The Oregon Trail"
- Shorter runs similar to Slay the Spire branching paths
- More emphasis on party member interactions, can't have same character class again
- No upgradeable armour/weapons, no stats like accuracy or dodge, uses tokens to represent effects
Bruh. Bumping this thread right now got me so hype for a trailer.

Hopefully we'll see one soon!

Can't wait for my best highwayman to die of tuberculosis or whatever it is on the trail
 
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drotahorror

Member
PCGamer has a print issue for the game. It still has turn-based line combat with skills, but there's less party management and it's more focused on a wagon journey with only four people.
- DDII is a "road trip, a roguelike mash-up of Darkest Dungeon and The Oregon Trail"
- Shorter runs similar to Slay the Spire branching paths
- More emphasis on party member interactions, can't have same character class again
- No upgradeable armour/weapons, no stats like accuracy or dodge, uses tokens to represent effects
Sounds more like something I could get into. I love the artstyle (especially the custom porn classes that stay true to the original artstyle) but I can't stand all the micromanaging.
 
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These are the new character models (taken from PC Gamer exclusive article). Sexy as hell if you ask me. Everything is in 3D btw.
 
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These are the new character models (taken from PC Gamer exclusive article). Sexy as hell if you ask me. Everything is in 3D btw.
I guess I didn't know the 1st game starred super deformed chibis, but that's how they look in comparison!

Looks good but, really just hoping to hear the game is very far along and/or some gameplay action
 
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I prefer the original models, but I'm hyped for the gameplay changes. Presentation of the first game was primo, but I felt that the difficulty brought the whole experience down a notch. It felt downright unfair at times, but I definitely enjoyed my time with it.
 
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