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DC announces that Green Lantern will be gay
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Spiritreaver
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It seems a lot of people have no idea how Green Lantern corp works.
Yes.
Yeah. Alan Scott exist in an alternate universe. Hal is the main GL of Earth 1, with Kyle Rayner, John Stewart, and Guy Gardner being the other key GL Corps characters alongside him.
I don't know if the GL Corps exist in Earth 2. Alan has traditionally been portrayed as being separate from the Corps.
echoshifting
Banned
Alan Scott is no big surprise. If it had been a more significant character from the franchise, or perhaps a character from a franchise that didn't recently obliterate itself at the box office, I would applaud them for it. As it stands, it's nice to see but that's about it. Nothing laudable, particularly when you consider they had the opportunity to do this with virtually any DC character out there during the reboot, and they went with a C-list character from a B-list franchise.
It is nice to see, though.
It is nice to see, though.
Earth 1 isn't the main earth that our heroes were on apartently. As superman is a teenager living in his basement arguing on forums.
Or was that earth prime?
Multiuniverse is just a cheap way to reboot all the time. It resulted from zero hour only because Hal Jordan was destroying the universe and it "broke" the timeline and created all these universes that he wanted to put back together to save his one city.
However multiverses should all be destroyed, it's a terrible plot that they never closed because they enjoyed rewriting over and over cause they don't wanna make new characters.
krypt0nian
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...Did you just say "totes"? And yeah, they should downplay a character being gay if they want the story to stand on its own merits and send the message that being gay is normal and nothing special. But they aren't, are they?
Anyway, gay characters is old hat by now. Once again, Archie Comics are at the bleeding edge in today's comics:
Polygamy! ;O
Marvel is the one shouting from the rooftops. DC is old hat at this gay chara thing already.
Again, they would be stupid to downplay free publicity. I think it's great to let kids know that there are more gay heroes. Archie comics are just catching up to Apollo/Midnighter.
Spike Spiegel
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Marvel dominating the charts, DC's sales circling the drain after several years of bad decisions and (by their own admission) lame stories. So the answer they came up with was to keep the same people in charge, but reboot the entire line with a new universe and new #1s and costumes, and make everything seem modern and edgy and real with a bunch of Shyamalan twists to existing continuity.
Angry Fork
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I thought the suit was very cool, hate the eye mask though.
Why is that a banned gif?
Spiritreaver
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Yeah, I'm rather disappointed. They really could've picked a higher tier character, but whatever. At least there's another.
On a side note, are Apollo/Midnighter in Stormwatch still a thing? I really can't tell with the really diluted flirting.
krypt0nian
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They began the relationship over but yes they are a "thing"
Banana Kid
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Alan Scott was the original Green Lantern in the 40's, who had nothing to do with the Green Lantern Corps, but instead just had a magic lantern. Later in the 60s the concept was brought back and used to create Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern as we know it now.
Alan Scott was then bumped around realities for a while. For a time all the 40's heroes existed on Earth-2, then after the first Crisis they all just became old people in the main universe, and now after the New 52 reboot he's back on Earth-2 again.
So, in conclusion: he's an old character that DC has never been sure what to do with.
TheAtomicPile
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Pretty weak.
I was hoping it would be an already established character that could have feasibly been in the closet. Something that might have actually been interesting beyond the 5 seconds it took to read this headline.
Making what is essentially a new gay character and calling him Alan Scott just seems cheap and safe.
I was hoping it would be an already established character that could have feasibly been in the closet. Something that might have actually been interesting beyond the 5 seconds it took to read this headline.
Making what is essentially a new gay character and calling him Alan Scott just seems cheap and safe.
Watch out, Archie! Commissioner Gordon looks pissed!Anyway, gay characters is old hat by now. Once again, Archie Comics are at the bleeding edge in today's comics:
Polygamy! ;O
Spiritreaver
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I really can't tell who is the luckier one out of that couple. I don't think it can get any better.
probably got spammed a lot and the mods had enough of it. i had no idea it was banned.
Hilarious how awful the CG Green Lantern suit looked in the movie. Iron Man fit in relatively well with the non-suited characters in his movie portrayals.
Like who? Batman or Superman? Not a chance.
The next most popular characters, thanks to movies and such...Wonder Woman and Green Lantern. WW would probably not go over well.
The lower-popularity characters like Flash and Green Arrow aren't as big since they don't have movies or anything like that.
What else is there? Supergirl? Power Girl? Martian Manhunter?
krypt0nian
Banned
Or you could look at it for what it is. Another positive role model for gay youth, as well as someone to show the straight kids that anyone can be a hero.
Nothing weak about that.
snoopeasystreet
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Is there any reason behind this other than some business man thinking "now that obama freed the gays, we should capitalize on it"? Retconing a character to be gay seems weirder than having none of them be gay.
It's saying only "neat" in a reply or using an associated macro that's banned:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427771
BFIB
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Here I thought the new 52 was supposed to do away w/ that crap. Looks like as long as DC can use the multiverse angle to push stories, like Green Lantern being gay, they'll do it. Kind of cheap, IMO.
TheAtomicPile
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It easily could have been Jason Todd.
Since I had heard that it was supposed to be a big-time character, I thought Cyborg might have fit the bill now that he's a Justice Leaguer.
Connor Kent?
krypt0nian
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Or you could read some of the background and see that this was in the works long before that... but no just jump to the negative. That's better for everyone.
You know what? That would actually get me to see a Green Lantern movie.
That said: Not a single fuck was given about this, given the Green Lantern is such a minor character in most peoples minds. (Yes, Comic Book fans, get mad or whatever, it's true.)
jaxword said:
"Robin... What have I done to you!?".jpg
Batman's always been gay. I don't care what you or DC say. *gay finger snaps in a Z and walks away*
snoopeasystreet
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I'm in work at the moment and don't have time to read the background. Only hearing about it earlier, it definitiely sounds more reactionary than pre planned. Glad I was wrong.
TheAtomicPile
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Or I could wish that the company would have more balls and have a gay character that somebody would actually care about, thus fitting the bill of being a role model for gay youth.
This phony Alan Scott thing won't go far, I don't think.
That isn't even the reason. James Robinson, writer of "Earth 2", personally decided to do it and ran that decision by DC Editorial, who gave him the okay.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/alan-scott-is-gay-plus-more-gender-race-changes.html
It was the comic nerds and news sites that blew this up and made it a big thing. DC's done gay characters for years.
krypt0nian
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Kids will care if they make Alan worth caring about. It has nothing to do with balls. And there's nothing "phony" here.
I shouldn't be shocked at the jaded responses but here I am face palming.
ReiGun, don't bother. It's not worth it.
And yet it gets announced right when Marvel does the Northstar-wedding story in X-Men!
Yup. Not to mention that Teen Titans has a gay character.
This is being done for publicity/sales. These are super hero comics....why does sexual orientation even matter? LOL.
krypt0nian
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It was never "announced". Bleeding Cool ran with ....nevermind. Whatever you like.
It matters because gay kids need role models.
Somehow I doubt making the token black guy also gay would go over well either.
Spike Spiegel
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Because comic companies should be worried about making gay characters popular and compelling, not making popular and compelling characters gay.
krypt0nian
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Because to DC it is no big deal. They have tons of LGBT heroes. The press made more out of it and now people are acting as if they are owed something more than a C lister.
Which DC has done for years and years so you're right. In fact they have multiple GLAAD awards to show for it.
Probably not.
I agree totally. I feel DC should create a character who struggles with peer pressure to be straight and tell how she/he being a superhero gave them confidence to come out as the story evolves around being gay is not an evil thing.
TheAtomicPile
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What's completely phony and gutless is that it's not the Alan Scott that we've known for 70 years or whatever. They're straddling the fence by calling this new character Alan Scott, but making him different enough that the legacy of the character won't be irreparably "damaged" by the sexuality change.
Isn't this about being progressive and stuff?
Sho_Nuff82
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Is Alan Scott even a member of the traditional Green Lantern Corps? No one even knows who he is, it'd be like if you made Wild Child or Deathlok gay in Marvel.
Yes, it is, but given that it's already being labelled as a hollow gesture, making the token minority even MORE of a minority simply doesn't lend itself to positive media.
Banana Kid
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Because to DC it is no big deal. They have tons of LGBT heroes. The press made more out of it and now people are acting as if they are owed something more than a C lister.
You're acting as if DC didn't know this would be a story. Of COURSE they did. They clearly planned for this to make headlines and gather attention, because both DC and Marvel take every chance they get for mainstream press.
And for the record, they specifically said "a major, iconic, male." They built this up as if it were an A-lister.
He's did just get a popularity boost from the movie. Did you REALLY think it was going to be Batman or Superman?
DonasaurusRex
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and here my money was on nightwing or kyle rainer.
TheAtomicPile
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Eh, I still feel like pissing off a few people here and there is kind of the point, but I guess I kind of see what you mean.
But still. Jason Todd.
Banana Kid
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Again: it's not the Green Lantern from the movie. Completely different character who happens to have the same name.
All the headlines just referring to him as Green Lantern are incredibly misleading.
So why have TGL, come out of the closet at all.
Personally, I think you can do a lot more with an original creation that's built from the ground up to reflect what it's like to be a gay superhero in contemporary America or wherever. The struggles and triumphs would feel more genuine than retconning it on a super hero that really hasn't identified with the community until now.
echoshifting
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Making any of the Robins gay would break the illusion that Batman isn't.
Black_Stride
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Alan Scott is gay?
Alan Scott hasnt been "major" since forever....here i was slightly scared that it was going to be Kyle or guy but earth 2 guys....go ahead DC do as you please, you have already ruined Jay Flashs costume, why not make Alan Scott gay?
Basically DC got rid of one gay character and put another....both are equally as unknown to the general public so.......
Nonetheless, i think Marvel takes it in this case....the gay marriage seems to carry more impact than making a golden age character from another universe gay.
Alan Scott hasnt been "major" since forever....here i was slightly scared that it was going to be Kyle or guy but earth 2 guys....go ahead DC do as you please, you have already ruined Jay Flashs costume, why not make Alan Scott gay?
Basically DC got rid of one gay character and put another....both are equally as unknown to the general public so.......
Nonetheless, i think Marvel takes it in this case....the gay marriage seems to carry more impact than making a golden age character from another universe gay.
No one in the public knows or cares about the difference. That's the entire point of this sort of media stunt.
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