I've been seeing Watchmen get much more shelf space since then.
It doesn't matter that it wasn't an enormous hit. The comic market is a lot smaller than the movie market.
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DC Announces Watchmen Sequel/Prequel Thing: Before Watchmen, Coming This Summer
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It doesn't matter that it wasn't an enormous hit. The comic market is a lot smaller than the movie market.
Eel O'Brian
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At one time Moore himself pondered doing a Minutemen prequel, so I can sort of see where that comes from, but he gave so much backstory to the characters in the miniseries that I wonder what exactly the creators hope to tell us with this new stuff. Comedian is a nihilistic sadist/rapist who still has a single shred of decency left in him? Been covered. Dr. Manhattan was a normal man who became a god and lost his humanity along the way? Welcome to 1986. Rorschach always had mental problems and went fully insane after seeing just how terrible people could be to each other? Check mark already in the box, hurm. Ozymandias had been plotting and scheming a bittersweet Utopia since the very beginning? See issues 1-12 of Watchmen. Nite Owl truly believed in what he was doing until he realized what he'd been doing had never really amounted to much more than playacting? See fat naked Dan Dreiberg panels. Silk Spectre was a better actual hero than her mother but could never live up to her memory or influence? Did you read the miniseries, or just look at the pictures?
I mean, it's a complete story (albeit with, imo, a really awkward smh endgame) with all the history inside.
I mean, it's a complete story (albeit with, imo, a really awkward smh endgame) with all the history inside.
I guess my point is what's the point to having additional stories if we already know everything we need to know about those characters? How do you flesh out Dr. Manhattan, Rorschach and Ozymandis further than those characters already did in the original?
Yeah, save for the part where that's exactly what they did because they had just acquired the Charlton Comics characters.
Well as long as they tell a coherent story with a satisfying ending then I'll consider it a wash. The original story wasn't so comprehensive that there is no room for an interesting tidbit here and there.
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious how these will come out. Can't wait for the Moore vitriol.
Baron_Calamity
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Well Alan Moore wanted Watchmen to end Superhero comics. He might still get his wish yet, just not in the way he wanted.
brucewaynegretzky
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I'll read it. I expect a train wreck, but I'll keep an open mind. The sad thing is that these could be the greatest comics ever and people will still shit on it. If it's bad it will collectively forgotten so no problem.
bean breath
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Are these going to be mature rated?
brucewaynegretzky
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My guess is that it will vary by book. Minutemen may not need to be.
Comedian will obviously be aimed at kids.
AgentOtaku
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holy shit wow
disa gonna be good
disa gonna be good
Hah! After that Spidey sales "Just sayin'" flap, I'm disappointed to see JMS attached to this project.
I was replying to a comment about League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Okay. The larger point here is, Watchmen is not above being reinterpreted with more modern sensibilities. No work of art is, really.
ViewtifulJC
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Don't see much of a problem here. Those are some mighty fine creative teams. If they're good, then what's the complain about? If they're bad, we'll forget about them like that sequel to Gone with the Wind.
Win-win
Win-win
badcrumble
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I don't have a problem with these existing. I think it's entirely appropriate for the DC to be doing this, in fact; it just goes to show how uncreative and how far up their own ass the comics industry is, and how better to do that than with spinoffs of a book that was all about commentary on comics as a medium anyway.
The books themselves (like the videogame beatemup) are irrelevant; the business decision to make spinoffs of the property, though, is high art.
The books themselves (like the videogame beatemup) are irrelevant; the business decision to make spinoffs of the property, though, is high art.
notworksafe
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If anything needed a sequel, it was Watchman. :/
Cut the crap and just make All-Star Wonder Woman you dolts!
Cut the crap and just make All-Star Wonder Woman you dolts!
afternoon delight
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If you thought the Dr. Manhattan cover was fantastic....
Edit: fine, I'll rehost it, grumble grumble mumble.
Edit: fine, I'll rehost it, grumble grumble mumble.
The Elite
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You know what else was apparently a sacred cow conceived by a singular mind that was "too good to be touched?"
The Spirit.
And Darwyn rocked that shit to its core.
If Cooke was handling the whole thing I would be a lot more excited.
JzeroT1437
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No.
If you thought the Dr. Manhattan cover was fantastic....
it's a 403, but yeah, the cover is QUITE SOMETHING
SpiderJerusalem
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Too bad about JMS. :/ I really like mostly everyone else on this though.
KuwabaraTheMan
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I want to rage, but those are some pretty strong creative teams working on this. It's a shitty move by DC, but I have faith in folks like Azzarello, JMS and Cooke to tell great stories.
I don't think this needed to happen, but at least the project is in good hands.
I don't think this needed to happen, but at least the project is in good hands.
The Lamonster
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Totally unnecessary. No hype for me whatsoever.
superpickleman
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Bah, really, really unnecessary.
Might be interesting though.
I don't know what to feel.
Might be interesting though.
I don't know what to feel.
afternoon delight
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I can't unsee that face. Is that the point?
I like Watchmen as much as the next guy, but I don't see why everyone is getting so up in arms about this. Where's the downside? If they're quality comics, great. If they suck, Watchmen isn't going to be retroactively lessened. No big deal. Chill out. Personally, I'm looking forward to it. Azarello and Cooke are both great.
RockAction
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I don't have any particular allegiance to the watchmen franchise so i'm not as annoyed act this as i can imagine some to be, but i really enjoyed the book and the film was alright, i didn't like it initially but have since enjoyed it
i know a little about the difficulties surrounding the license and moore and everything; can't imagine he cares anymore, except for his creation being used against his will, but they might do something interesting
i don't read comic books, prefer reading it in one go, so i'll wait until the complete graphic novel comes out but i'm interested; good characters and a prequel makes sense if there's any sense in this venture at all, although watchmen was a pretty taut and well considered piece of writing/storytelling
had heard rumblings of a prequel comic, and i'm sure numerous 'cross-media' products, films etc, before, but i'm more interested than i thought i would be
i know a little about the difficulties surrounding the license and moore and everything; can't imagine he cares anymore, except for his creation being used against his will, but they might do something interesting
i don't read comic books, prefer reading it in one go, so i'll wait until the complete graphic novel comes out but i'm interested; good characters and a prequel makes sense if there's any sense in this venture at all, although watchmen was a pretty taut and well considered piece of writing/storytelling
had heard rumblings of a prequel comic, and i'm sure numerous 'cross-media' products, films etc, before, but i'm more interested than i thought i would be
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I don't have much faith in this being very good either way, but I would have had some interest in it if it was a sequel. DC's going the safe route. No surprise there.
The Spirit and Watchmen are pretty different situations. Also, Darwyn Cook's version of the Spirit wasn't even close to the original (it was good though).
You know what else was apparently a sacred cow conceived by a singular mind that was "too good to be touched?"
The Spirit.
And Darwyn rocked that shit to its core.
The Spirit and Watchmen are pretty different situations. Also, Darwyn Cook's version of the Spirit wasn't even close to the original (it was good though).
wsoxfan1214
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I don't see the huge deal. I loved Watchmen and I'm interested to see how this turns out.
ChocolateCupcakes
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No thank you.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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If Alan Moore was so mad about this happening he should have taken DC's offer to do it himself and All Star Batman and Robin'd it so that nobody would ever want to touch it again.
the thought of this pleases me
at least something would have been all-star'd
EmCeeGramr
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can't wait to see jms's take on manhattan, where he decides to lose his powers for a week and be a normal joe.
notable instances along his experience include meeting a giant fat comic nerd who shouts "DURR I HATE THIS PREQUEL TO MY PIRATE COMIC I'M SO DUMB DURR" at which manhattan coolly and rationally explains logic to him by quoting thoreau
notable instances along his experience include meeting a giant fat comic nerd who shouts "DURR I HATE THIS PREQUEL TO MY PIRATE COMIC I'M SO DUMB DURR" at which manhattan coolly and rationally explains logic to him by quoting thoreau
brucewaynegretzky
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The funny thing about this is that Frank Miller isn't doing it on purpose....
Miller has written ONE good thing in his career: Year One. Feel free to flame on. I'm confident in my assertion.
Moore actually has a track record of being a good writer.... 25 years ago. He needs to sit back and move on. It's funny because he acts as if his writing wasn't built on a lot of writers before him... ::cough::leagueofextraordinarygentlemen::cough::
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Regardless of what you think about his previous work (how could you not like Daredevil!??!?!?!) he was definitely doing that shit on purpose.
The outrage here doesn't make much sense to me. First people claimed that these creative teams should have done something original. Of course if they weren't doing Watchmen these writers and artists would be working on Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and a half-dozen other franchises that have been milked to death for the better part of the century. If they are going to rehash, why not have them rehash a severely underserved property?
Then there's the argument that the characters do not need any more development or fleshing out. But if that's your stance, then why should any superhero comic exist? It's not like Wolverine or Spider-Man or Batman are going to get any more fleshed out by starring in 4-6 different comic books per month. I've got to imagine that all these characters each have at least another 100-120 pages of good stories to tell. Whether or not these books end up good is another thing, but certainly it's not an impossible task to write something fun and cool about them.
Then there's the argument that the characters do not need any more development or fleshing out. But if that's your stance, then why should any superhero comic exist? It's not like Wolverine or Spider-Man or Batman are going to get any more fleshed out by starring in 4-6 different comic books per month. I've got to imagine that all these characters each have at least another 100-120 pages of good stories to tell. Whether or not these books end up good is another thing, but certainly it's not an impossible task to write something fun and cool about them.
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