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[flintstryker]

The problem is not the wii version. The problem is how will this effect DR2? If they want to dumb it down for the wii version, fine. But guess what? That also tells us that Capcom feels the original game was too hard, why not make the sequel less difficult as well? They've done this before, with Devil May Cry 2. Why not do it again? Oh wait, they did it AGAIN with Devil May Cry 4! Why not do it for Dead Rising 2?

Most of us don't give a shit if the wii gets Dead Rising. We're worried about the sequel. Since Capcom opted to remove one of the features we loved the most about the original, but was easily the most complained about feature by pussy gamers, why shouldn't Capcom take it out of the sequel?

The wii version could be indicative of the direction Capcom takes Dead Rising 2, hence the hate.

soo preemptive bitching?

 

[Zoramon089]

soo preemptive bitching?

If these changes were announced for DR2 for the 360 no one would be complaining

 

[Haunted]

Some of those screenshots in the 1 page. Are those Wii screenshots?

Yes.

Spoiler

some are apparently depicting cutscenes which are made with the 360 engine. Think RE4 PS2/AitD Wii

I think it looks good.

 

[Scrubking]

Again these are just to see what is actually going on in the pics because the originals are so dark. I see ~30 zombies in the first pic.

 

[besada]

I'd like to see the courtyard. There's no way they can implement the really scary bits in the tunnels, but I'm wondering what the courtyard is going to look like.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Looks nice, considering. What'd make me stand up and take notice is Capcom announcing WiiMotion + support. THAT would be amazing.

And stop being a tool Himu.

 

[J-Rock]

Looking good. Obviously unfinished in parts but Capcom knows how to polish the hell out of a game so I'm not worried. I'm happy that Capcom is even bringing this to the Wii.

 

[dragonlife]

Wow at the new pics ^

 

[Arde5643]

Looking nice - if they advertise it right with the Wii audience, expect another million seller.

 

[Fantastical]

That looks good in my opinion. I think I'll buy this. I've wanted the 360 version for a while though, but I'll wait to see how this turns out.

 

[agrajag]

Wow, the models and everything else look damn good.



Now this screen worries me. Run a couple steps to the right and you're all alone, either the zombies follow you quicker or it really will be easier to get out of a mob and a breather... I dunno.

If you look into the background, there is a shitload of zombies there. There are probably some zombies to the right as well, just outside of the camera's view.

 

[alistairw]

And stop being a tool Himu.

:lol

He's just protective.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

:lol

He's just protective.

Well we went through this already in the other DR Wii thread. Where I told him it isn't the DR team.

 

[Stitch]

They need to add some lightning effects. Otherwise it looks really good. Will buy day 1.

 

[DECK'ARD]

I'm interested.

 

[Yaweee]

If you look into the background, there is a shitload of zombies there. There are probably some zombies to the right as well, just outside of the camera's view.

And that's kind of the advantage of the closer camera positioning; as far as gameplay is concerned, you're surrounded by zombies, but everything outside of your cone-of-sight doesn't need to use up much processing power. Sometimes, the game will feel roughly the same, while at others it will be noticeably sparser.

I hope there isn't much 'Zombie pop-up'.

 

[Arde5643]

Well we went through this already in the other DR Wii thread. Where I told him it isn't the DR team.

He's really really really obsessively protective I guess.

 

[nightside]

I'm still puzzled by this choise. DR was the last title I expected Capcom to port to wii, really.

Would be awesome if motion plus will be supported...

 

[Arde5643]

I'm still puzzled by this choise. DR was the last title I expected Capcom to port to wii, really.

Would be awesome if motion plus will be supported...

What will they do with motion plus though? There weren't really any intricate melee attacks in the game.

 

[Tenbatsu]

Well, if Capcom even brings this over, then I hope that is the case.

Think that Sven guy kinda confirmed its coming.

 

[kinggroin]

It's a port...would you've double-dipped otherwise? I don't get all the bitching over a port tbh.

As a straight port, it wouldn't be worth my time. However, the changes that seem to be made to the system ALSO, don't make it worth my time.

I'd have double dipped had this simply included new missions, weapons and locales. Really.

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

At least i will be able to read the text in the game with the Wii version.

 

[Pureauthor]

Looks nice, considering. What'd make me stand up and take notice is Capcom announcing WiiMotion + support. THAT would be amazing.

3rd parties didn't have a clue that thing existed until Monday, or so I heard. So... not likely.

 

[Arde5643]

As a straight port, it wouldn't be worth my time. However, the changes that seem to be made to the system ALSO, don't make it worth my time.

I'd have double dipped had this simply included new missions, weapons and locales. Really.

Did you double-dip for RE4 PS2 for the extras?

Capcom will probably include some new extras for the Wii at lower price to snag some of the 360 owners.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

What will they do with motion plus though? There weren't really any intricate melee attacks in the game.

Since everything else is being reworked, so can this. Can you imagine swinging a bat/chainsaw/katana/park bench at a swarm of zombies 1:1? That would rule.

3rd parties didn't have a clue that thing existed until Monday, or so I heard. So... not likely.

A woman can dream. Besides it's not due out till later this year. It's kinda like Mad World, where the game's appeal will skyrocket with WiiMotion+ support.

 

[VeritasVierge]

You know, I'm a huge fan of Dead Rising, and I don't really see any problem with this port at all. I think any rational person will know that graphically it will not look as good, and the zombies will be greatly reduced, there's no running away from that. The fact that they're changing the controls, the camera, and the game progression system indicates that they're simply looking to transplant the experience onto the Wii, not recreate the exact same game on it.

I only see one "problem" and it's in relation to the lower number of zombies on screen. Which means racing through the garage and hitting as many as possible will likely be different. If that's even a "problem".

 

[dark10x]

Since everything else is being reworked, so can this. Can you imagine swinging a bat/chainsaw/katana/park bench at a swarm of zombies 1:1? That would rule.

It might rule. I'm still not convinced that swinging your arms around at stuff is all that fun. It's actually similar to moving an analog stick around to attack stuff, really (though certainly better than that). Without any feedback, it really doesn't work.

No More Heroes is probably the best example of integrating motion into combat in that the combat is still button driven but uses motions to finish the job. I actually think 1:1 beam saber combat would have resulted in an inferior game.

It sounds cool and everyone thinks they want it, but I just don't think it would work well. All of the "swing your arms" style things on the Wii thus far involve objects that just follow through. When you swing a tennis racket, for instance, you follow through in both real life and on the Wii. They use a small rumble to give the impression of hitting the ball, but that ball would never stop your swing. Same deal with a baseball bat or a golf club. Heck, that wood cutting Wii Sports game coming out also uses follow through.

The physics based combat of Dead Rising does not seem like a good candidate for 1:1 motion combat.

 

[No6]

Since everything else is being reworked, so can this. Can you imagine swinging a bat/chainsaw/katana/park bench at a swarm of zombies 1:1? That would rule.

From looking at the shots I'm wondering where the benches (and every other item) actually are. The mall was completely littered with things to pick up/throw/eat/blend into a delicious shake.

And I'm guessing zombie walking is right out.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

There a ton of zombies (easily 30+) in some of the screens, so, looks like they didn't drop the ball there. Awesome stuff.

 

[later]

Since everything else is being reworked, so can this. Can you imagine swinging a bat/chainsaw/katana/park bench at a swarm of zombies 1:1? That would rule.



A woman can dream. Besides it's not due out till later this year. It's kinda like Mad World, where the game's appeal will skyrocket with WiiMotion+ support.

Wii motion plus won't be released till march next year.. Unless they proactively add support for it, that would be awesome as it would give you a reason to play again when the attachment comes out.

 

[kinggroin]

Did you double-dip for RE4 PS2 for the extras?

Capcom will probably include some new extras for the Wii at lower price to snag some of the 360 owners.

You looking for a witch or somethin'?

Get off my dick.

And no, I was able to have my cake and eat it too with RE4 Wii.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

dead rising is good


more dead rising is better


more people buying dead rising to make capcom make more dead rising is best.



















.... dead rising!

 

[Dragona Akehi]

It might rule. I'm still not convinced that swinging your arms around at stuff is all that fun. It's actually similar to moving an analog stick around to attack stuff, really (though certainly better than that). Without any feedback, it really doesn't work.

No More Heroes is probably the best example of integrating motion into combat in that the combat is still button driven but uses motions to finish the job. I actually think 1:1 beam saber combat would have resulted in an inferior game.

It sounds cool and everyone thinks they want it, but I just don't think it would work well. All of the "swing your arms" style things on the Wii thus far involve objects that just follow through. When you swing a tennis racket, for instance, you follow through in both real life and on the Wii. They use a small rumble to give the impression of hitting the ball, but that ball would never stop your swing. Same deal with a baseball bat or a golf club. Heck, that wood cutting Wii Sports game coming out also uses follow through.

The physics based combat of Dead Rising does not seem like a good candidate for 1:1 motion combat.

Blah blah blah. We know. Thing is, the whole anti 1:1 brigade keeps harping on the follow through thing. Guess what? The easiest thing is the solution: you simply PUNISH the player for not paying attention. If your sword/whatever gets stuck from a block and you continue being a spaz, you get punished. We already do this in games (like don't attack a boss unless x happens or boom). It's quite easy to train players to do this.

 

[Arde5643]

You looking for a witch or somethin'?

Get off my dick.

And no, I was able to have my cake and eat it too with RE4 Wii.

Uh dude, no need to take offense - I was just seriously asking if you actually also bought the GC RE4 as well as the PS2 RE4 when it was released for the extras.

That's it.

I was just trying to equate Cap-port's PS2 RE4 to Dead Rising Wii - basically, they're hoping that if people who already have GC RE4 bought PS2 RE4 for the extras, then they might also get people to buy Wii Dead Rising for the extras.

 

[Flo_Evans]

If these changes were announced for DR2 for the 360 no one would be complaining

False. Some people actually liked the game.

 

[kinggroin]

Uh dude, no need to take offense - I was just seriously asking if you actually also bought the GC RE4 as well as the PS2 RE4 when it was released for the extras.

That's it.

I was just trying to equate Cap-port's PS2 RE4 to Dead Rising Wii - basically, they're hoping that if people who already have GC RE4 bought PS2 RE4 for the extras, then they might also get people to buy Wii Dead Rising for the extras.

Ok. Between Himuro's BS and the Ninty fanboys, I can't tell who's being genuine or not.

My apologies.

 

[Days like these...]

Call me weaksauce or whatever I don't care I didnt like the save system on the 360 version. So the Wii version is an automatic day 1 purchase for me.

 

[Arde5643]

dead rising is good


more dead rising is better


more people buying dead rising to make capcom make more dead rising is best.



















.... dead rising!

* Dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead .... DEAD RISING!!.....dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead ... DEAD RISING!! ... dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead dead ... BATMA...uh...RISING!!!!

*Sing to the tune of Batman's Adam West series

 

[Kilrogg]

Blah blah blah. We know. Thing is, the whole anti 1:1 brigade keeps harping on the follow through thing. Guess what? The easiest thing is the solution: you simply PUNISH the player for not paying attention. If your sword/whatever gets stuck from a block and you continue being a spaz, you get punished. We already do this in games (like don't attack a boss unless x happens or boom). It's quite easy to train players to do this.

Not to mention the fact that 1:1 motion controls would still be miles better in terms of realism and fun than mashing buttons. Sure, you could have force feedback that prevents you from going too far, but that's just not possible right now, plus I can see how that could cause health problems.

 

[CreatureX3]

At least i will be able to read the text in the game with the Wii version.

:lol

 

[SlaughterX]

It looks like you can just run through most parts of the game now with out even touching a zombie... can't wait to see what the tunnels look like. :|

 

[Bending_Unit_22]

Call me weaksauce or whatever I don't care I didnt like the save system on the 360 version. So the Wii version is an automatic day 1 purchase for me.

Same here (except not having a 360 was also a contributing factor). Looks really good actually, so with RE4 and RE:UC looks like I'll be 3 for 3 with Capcom's zombie "tests".

 

[dark10x]

Blah blah blah. We know. Thing is, the whole anti 1:1 brigade keeps harping on the follow through thing. Guess what? The easiest thing is the solution: you simply PUNISH the player for not paying attention. If your sword/whatever gets stuck from a block and you continue being a spaz, you get punished. We already do this in games (like don't attack a boss unless x happens or boom). It's quite easy to train players to do this.

OK, fair enough, if that excites you, so be it. It's not just the fact that it doesn't work well, really, it simply doesn't seem like fun to me. That's opinion, however, and it's not a popular one, so whatever. I'm just rambling again.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

OK, fair enough, if that excites you, so be it. It's not just the fact that it doesn't work well, really, it simply doesn't seem like fun to me. That's opinion, however, and it's not a popular one, so whatever. I'm just rambling again.

Because of Wii and DS I have games like Trauma Centre. I'm much happier in a world with TC.

 

[Haunted]

OK, fair enough, if that excites you, so be it. It's not just the fact that it doesn't work well, really, it simply doesn't seem like fun to me. That's opinion, however, and it's not a popular one, so whatever. I'm just rambling again.

You're always so negative in Wii threads.

sad face

 

[KevinCow]

It's not just the fact that it doesn't work well

But that's not a fact.

 

[jrricky]

I'm still puzzled by this choise. DR was the last title I expected Capcom to port to wii, really.

Would be awesome if motion plus will be supported...

Thats the thing ive been wondering. Nintendo has announced the release date of motionplus for the US but what about Japan and Europe. I expect japan to get it first so japanese developers should probably have it already...

 

[dark10x]

You're always so negative in Wii threads.

sad face

Well, I tend to become positive when I have a positive experience with something. When I walk out of a movie that blew me away, for instance, I'm going to naturally become inerested in the director and other things surrounding the film. Same deal with a game. When a machine and its software delivers experiences that completely blow me away, I'm going to be very positive about the future.

The Wii really hasn't done anything for me. In the few cases where I DID really enjoy a game on the Wii, I couldn't shake the feeling that it would have been better in HD or something. That's pretty much it. If the Wii had left a positive impression on me, I wouldn't be so skeptical about it all the time. I don't hate it, but I don't really get it either.

Because of Wii and DS I have games like Trauma Centre. I'm much happier in a world with TC.

Heh, I actually hate that game. I know it's totally over the top and fake, but I'm also a hypochondriac of sorts. I can't STAND the whole genre of "medical entertainment" (TV shows, games, etc) that has become popular lately for just that reason. I don't even want to think about it.

 

[plagiarize]

OK, fair enough, if that excites you, so be it. It's not just the fact that it doesn't work well, really, it simply doesn't seem like fun to me. That's opinion, however, and it's not a popular one, so whatever. I'm just rambling again.

pick up, say a pipe.

swing it through the air as hard as humanly possible.

now do that again and again except get a friend to stand facing you also with a pipe.

at random have him swing that pipe into your pipe as hard as is humanly possible without pulling out of the swing.

here is what will happen. it will hurt both of you like fuck. you will probably drop the pipes. you might break bones in your hands.

if you were really fighting with pipes and they were about to clash at full speed you would either A: react and save your wrist and keep a hold of your pipe. or B: not react and be pretty fucked.

but all the same, dead rising would be a great candidate for 1:1 motion control with weapons because... zombies don't block. and if you're swinging a sword into a zombie in the game, it slices them in two.

 

[besada]

zombies don't block. and if you're swinging a sword into a zombie in the game, it slices them in two.

Excellent points. Most of the weapons in the game pass through without resistance. Sword, battleaxe, katana, lead pipe, baseball bat, etc.

I can't wait to see the motion for Frank's fancy scythe attack, though.