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[MightyHedgehog]

New consoles were definitely coming in 2012 anyway, but it's definitely not going to be because they're not doing so hot in one region.

Nah. That would require console reveals this year. No way there will be successors to X360 and PS3 before 2013 given the current prices on consoles today.

 

[sangreal]

I guess YSF did well:

In advance of NPD's sales report for December 2010, Ubisoft is claiming its slate of Kinect software made them the number one third party publisher on the new hardware platform in 2010.

Ubisoft didn't reveal precise sales numbers or proportions for its three currently available Kinect titles -- Your Shape: Fitness Evolved, MotionSports and Fighters Uncaged -- though Your Shape has recently started appearing on Amazon's top selling video games lists.

In a statement announcing the position, Ubisoft declared it's hoping to repeat the feat in 2011 with titles including Child of Eden and a Kinect port for the multi-million selling Michael Jackson: The Experience.

“We believed in the potential of Kinect from the start and we set out to be the leading third-party publisher," said Laurent Detoc, Ubisoft North America president. "It worked. But this is only the beginning for us."

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32444/Ubisoft_Claims_Top_Third_Party_Kinect_Sales_In_2010.php

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Epic Mickey, Just Dance 2 and Donkey Kong are a bet.

Hopefully.

 

[Neuromancer]

When do the NPD's come in? Tomorrow?

 

[EagleEyes]

When you put it like that...that's very sad given how amazing Nuts and Bolts and the Viva Pinata games were (I loved them, at least.).

All great titles but so is Kinect Sports. I'm just happy for Rare. They've gotten the short end of the stick far too much this gen.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

When do the NPD's come in? Tomorrow?

20 minutes!

 

[Lonely1]

Hopefully.

No, that game was bad.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Best month for 360 sales ever, 460K more than their previous record (1.44M in 2008).

 

[Kenka]

Last year there were only 3, too (I assume MS is talking non-combined top 10 like they have been doing).

We were just spoiled by Wii's poor performance the rest of the year.

If top 10 is combined, then CoD, AssBro, Kinect and GT5 charted on HD twins. The rest is Nintendo.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

No, that game was bad.

Gerl, bye.

 

[Saiyar]

Since we know for almost sure that only (AssBro and) CoD and GT5 charted on PS3's side... you can add two more games at least.



Couldn't have said it better but that would mean that we got one hell of a Dec with top 10 rounding above 800k or something x_X

I am pretty certain CoD: Black Ops PS3 will be in the top 10.

 

[apana]

:lol Well my predictions are going to be way off. I blame MS for acting so confident. They still did amazing, but not mind blowing as I was expecting.

 

[legend166]

more than likely, yeah... 360 will be 7 and PSWii will be 6.



1. See above

2. There is no 'most important region'. They all matter equally in a console's success. It's the same thing as looking only at JP sales and saying MS needs a new console... It'd make no sense.

I, uh, what?

 

[Pooya]

Last year's top 10 - Dec 2009

# New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) / Nintendo / 2.82 million
# Wii Fit Plus (Wii) / Nintendo / 2.41 million
# Wii Sports Resort (Wii) / Nintendo / 1.79 million
# Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Xbox 360) / Infinity Ward, Activision / 1.63 million
# Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3) / Infinity Ward, Activision / 1.12 million
# Wii Play (Wii) / Nintendo / 1.01 million
# Mario Kart Wii (Wii) / Nintendo / 936,100
# Assassin's Creed II (Xbox 360) / Ubisoft Montreal / 783,100
# Left 4 Dead 2 (Xbox 360) / Valve, Electronic Arts / 728,500
# Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (NDS) / Alphadream, Nintendo / 656,700

 

[FrankT]

What size should the market have this year ? 18 billions $ maybe ?

If so, it got 1/3 of the whole pie.

Yup that should be close to 1/3 of the entire gaming pie for the year.

 

[Neuromancer]

20 minutes!

Cool thanks

 

[Kenka]

20 minutes!

Oh shit, it's not a NPD wind, it's a typhoon !


I just want to see DKC with a seven number figure on its right in Evilore's post. I pretty much don't care about the rest

 

[Shurs]

Best month for 360 sales ever, 460K more than their previous record (1.44M in 2008).

That's quite an accomplishment.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

That's a great accomplishment.

It sure gives the number some context, I'm not sure why some people are underwhelmed.

 

[TheOddOne]

I am suprised Kinect Sport is up there, does it mean it got in the 500k region?

 

[okenny]

Yup that should be close to 1/3 of the entire gaming pie for the year.

It's crazy considering they only have one platform horse in the race.

 

[Kenka]

Last year's top 10 - Dec 2009

The good old days... now we just have a skeleton-like top 5 with numbers and evanescent hardware :'-(

 

[Why For?]

more than likely, yeah... 360 will be 7 and PSWii will be 6.



1. See above

2. There is no 'most important region'. They all matter equally in a console's success. It's the same thing as looking only at JP sales and saying MS needs a new console... It'd make no sense.

There won't be new consoles in 2012.

They may get announced, but that's it.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

I am suprised Kinect Sport is up there, does it mean it got in the 500k region?

Looking at last years chart, absolutely.

 

[Shurs]

I am suprised Kinect Sport is up there, does it mean it got in the 500k region?

I'm thinking it's got to be even higher than that.

 

[[Nintex]]

No, that game was bad.

No, no, wait hold on! What's wrong Phone? Oh you want me to press A. So you can tell me you want me to fix the network, let me do that for you. Hey isn't this the same place that the flowers were hidden? Oh wow I'm getting a power spark! holy shit talk about emotion, smiling as you play, best Wii game ever and other poorly written PR speak. Oh hello generic figure, you want me to race, what do I have to do? Jump on top of this building and walk around it, GENIUS INCREDIBLE Deus Ex got nothing on this IMMERSION.

 

[Ecliptor]

Is there a DS game that could have made it to the top 10?

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Come on DKCR!

 

[Sindou_Hikaru20]

Golden Sun Dark Dawn maybe :lol

 

[Kenka]

Is there a DS game that could have made it to the top 10?

If it contains the name Mario in the title, why not.

 

[TheOddOne]

Looking at last years chart, absolutely.

Just saw that post, would be suprising for Rare if true.

 

[szaromir]

I expected >2M for 360. At least good that AssBro is doing well.

 

[Kafel]

Chances that PC grabs a spot with Cataclysm ?

Awesome for Kinect Sports.

 

[Kenka]

GAF is slowly crashing :lol

 

[A Human Becoming]

Golden Sun Dark Dawn maybe :lol

Not going to even be in the top 30.

 

[Mindlog]

Best month for 360 sales ever, 460K more than their previous record (1.44M in 2008).

Gah can someone post the quick link here? What were the price points in holiday 2008?

 

[Kenka]

Not going to even be in the top 30.

Ahem, in year 2005, Dec. NPD top 100 was above 100k.

So it might not even enter Top 100.

 

[szaromir]

Gah can someone post the quick link here? What were the price points in holiday 2008?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349076
360 - $199/$299
PS3 - $399
Wii - $249

 

[Hiro_Kunimi_80]

Gah can someone post the quick link here? What were the price points in holiday 2008?

For Microsoft almost the same than 2010 :lol no price cut in Us since september 2008 ( just adjusting the size of the HD )

 

[Pooya]

Gah can someone post the quick link here? What were the price points in holiday 2008?

same as it is currently.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Gah can someone post the quick link here? What were the price points in holiday 2008?

360 premium was 299, Elite 399, Arcade 199. Price hasn't dropped since 08 really.

 

[Shurs]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349076
360 - $199/$299
PS3 - $399
Wii - $249

Additionally, there was the $399 Elite.

Edit: Beaten.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

NPD is gonna be intense. :lol

 

[Mindlog]

Well thank you GAF! That was quick :]

I should have immediately went to the archives instead of google. The price points this gen are so abnormal. Interesting twist on things.

 

[Kafel]

I guess YSF did well:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32444/Ubisoft_Claims_Top_Third_Party_Kinect_Sales_In_2010.php

Now Ubi should announce something more hardcore like Red Steel for Kinect. The audience on 360 would avoid such license to bomb.

 

[szaromir]

Ubi should be swimming in money now. AssBro repeated AC2's success, JD2 exceeded JD1's sales, then you have Kinect titles the Michael Jackson game.

 

[BowieZ]

Looks like this month's winner will be Elios83.

 

[jvm]

Looks like this month's winner will be Elios83.

Good call. Looks like a winner.

 

[donny2112]

Looks like this month's winner will be Elios83.

Yep.

December 2010 NPD Prediction Results

Units

1. Elios83 - 362,000
2. Jesse2040 - 482,000
3. Scott32020 - 508,000
4. big_z - 718,000
5. N.A - 732,000
6. Baki - 812,000
7. Orgen - 857,000
8. Pachter - 962,000
9. Ydahs - 983,000
10. WaltJay - 1,008,000
11. Sadist - 1,032,000
12. Kenka - 1,062,000
13. duk - 1,067,000
14. Kagari - 1,082,000
15. Ingeniero - 1,088,000
16. Linkup - 1,138,000
17. bakemono - 1,212,000
18. Aad - 1,218,000
19. lochnesssnowman - 1,270,000
20. rayner - 1,282,000
21. andy_lhc - 1,312,000
21. Glowingmonx - 1,312,000
23. AniHawk - 1,322,000
24. Gadfly - 1,382,000
25. confuziz - 1,392,000
26. Anasui Kishibe - 1,438,000
27. jonnybryce - 1,452,000
28. SonicX_Zero - 1,462,000
29. Chris1964 - 1,467,000
30. NeoUltima - 1,487,000
31. Road - 1,505,000
32. Aquavelvaman - 1,508,000
33. jvm - 1,537,000
34. tahrikmili - 1,538,000
35. SuperBanjo - 1,562,000
35. Brakara - 1,562,000
37. Jokeropia - 1,563,000
38. BowieZ - 1,567,000
39. Saiyar - 1,582,000
40. timetokill - 1,588,000
41. archnemesis - 1,590,000
42. gollumsluvslave - 1,595,000
43. Hammer24 - 1,597,000
44. Megadragon15 - 1,612,000
44. donny2112 - 1,612,000
46. pitseleh - 1,642,000
47. skedar897 - 1,662,000
47. botticus - 1,662,000
49. scottnak - 1,671,000
50. doicare - 1,682,000
50. Hiro_Kunimi_80 - 1,682,000
50. Not a Jellyfish - 1,682,000
53. apana - 1,712,000
54. Horns - 1,718,000
55. Osuwari - 1,742,000
56. Gamemaster_ca_2003 - 1,797,000
57. miladesn - 1,817,000
58. Adam Blade - 1,818,000
59. perfectchaos007 - 1,838,000
60. Jonsoncao - 1,872,000
61. jj984jj - 1,887,000
62. seady - 1,912,000
63. rostocker - 1,924,000
64. jamesinclair - 1,940,877
65. Zero-Crescent - 1,962,000
66. Frillen - 2,002,000
67. zero_suit - 2,062,000
68. combinekidd - 2,097,000
69. SteveSteve - 2,118,000
70. antonz - 2,252,000
71. Strike - 2,412,000
72. psrock - 2,502,000
73. GraveRobberX - 3,173,000


Points

     December 2010               Last 3 Months                Overall 2010
1.   Elios83           116.95    Baki                297.49   Jesse2040         1,102.34
2.   Jesse2040         115.23    archnemesis         295.02   Hiro_Kunimi_80    1,094.93
3.   big_z             108.55    Jesse2040           284.94   doicare           1,075.24
4.   N.A               108.31    rostocker           284.21   confuziz          1,064.26
5.   Baki              107.17    jvm                 282.56   Pachter           1,053.17
6.   Ydahs             101.68    Road                272.17   jvm               1,044.06
7.   Scott32020        100.67    Pachter             271.1    rostocker         1,042.19
8.   Orgen              99.57    Megadragon15        268.71   Saiyar            1,041.01
9.   Kenka              97.81    Saiyar              268.49   Jonsoncao         1,033.58
10.  Aad                96.83    Ydahs               267.36   Jokeropia         1,022.95
11.  Gadfly             94.87    confuziz            265.7    Brakara           1,022.33
12.  gollumsluvslave    94.56    scottnak            264.49   bakemono          1,022.15
13.  duk                94.17    donny2112           263.71   scottnak          1,021.96
14.  SonicX_Zero        94.07    NeoUltima           260.92   Strike            1,016.82
15.  jonnybryce         93.85    Orgen               258.9    donny2112         1,010.46
16.  Kagari             93.54    timetokill          257.33   archnemesis         995.24
17.  andy_lhc           93.47    Jokeropia           257.09   NeoUltima           984.47
18.  Aquavelvaman       93.34    Scott32020          256.48   Orgen               983.33
19.  WaltJay            93.01    Brakara             254.61   Scott32020          974.59
20.  timetokill         92.72    Osuwari             254.4    jj984jj             974.54
21.  Pachter            92.49    jj984jj             254.15   Megadragon15        972.09
22.  Megadragon15       92.46    skedar897           253.72   Ydahs               968.67
23.  archnemesis        92.14    doicare             252.65   Osuwari             967.93
24.  Jokeropia          91.94    Zero-Crescent       252.32   Aad                 960.56
25.  scottnak           91.77    miladesn            249.63   N.A                 946.38
26.  lochnesssnowman    91.71    WaltJay             247.56   Road                941.64
27.  pitseleh           90.38    Hiro_Kunimi_80      247.42   skedar897           937.08
28.  donny2112          90.17    SonicX_Zero         246.9    timetokill          913.96
29.  rostocker          90.08    Jonsoncao           244.64   SonicX_Zero         903.94
30.  Road               90.05    Aad                 244.52   andy_lhc            903.74
31.  SuperBanjo         89.92    bakemono            240.25   WaltJay             880.29
32.  Osuwari            89.66    Hammer24            240.25   Gamemaster_ca_2003  878.25
33.  Hammer24           89.25    rayner              238.04   Sadist              864.09
34.  skedar897          89.12    Gamemaster_ca_2003  235.32   perfectchaos007     828.62
35.  jvm                89.06    Strike              228.01   seady               797.95
36.  AniHawk            89.05    perfectchaos007     216.84   dragct              771.23
37.  Ingeniero          88.79    N.A                 196.42   SuperBanjo          760.95
38.  Brakara            88.6     Elios83             193.14   pitseleh            760.18
39.  Hiro_Kunimi_80     88.02    Adam Blade          188.8    botticus            752.85
40.  jj984jj            87.9     andy_lhc            186.01   rayner              716.38
41.  Linkup             87.63    gollumsluvslave     181.56   VegaShinra          715.08
42.  botticus           87.33    Kenka               175.25   miladesn            706.41
43.  miladesn           87.17    jonnybryce          175.18   sciplore            698.46
44.  Sadist             86.88    SuperBanjo          169.53   starship            691.1
45.  Glowingmonx        84.24    VegaShinra          168.74   lowlylowlycook      675.73
46.  BowieZ             84.09    Gadfly              168.27   Averon              652.11
47.  rayner             83.35    pitseleh            168.09   modulaire           649.05
48.  Anasui Kishibe     82.68    SteveSteve          168.05   Hammer24            632.22
49.  tahrikmili         82.31    Linkup              167.34   Zero-Crescent       620.9
50.  confuziz           81.61    botticus            161.33   Baki                610.74

Congratulations, Elios83 for the month and Jesse2040 (Jesse Divnich / EEDAR) for the year! Big come from behind win for the annual race.


For next year, the first two months will have 4 systems (no PSP) to predict for 25 points each, and then with 3DS's release in March, it'll go back to 20 points per system. We'll also introduce a new annual ranking method where for the full year, only the top 10 months will count. This way, if a month is missed or just really blows for your predictions, it would get thrown out. It will be phased in with March allowing one to be dropped and September allowing two.

Annual ranking schedule
January - 1/1 months counted
February - 2/2 months counted
March - 2/3 months counted
April - 3/4 months counted
May - 4/5 months counted
June - 5/6 months counted
July - 6/7 months counted
August - 7/8 months counted
September - 7/9 months counted
October - 8/10 months counted
November - 9/11 months counted
December - 10/12 months counted

This should be the results in 2010 were counted the same way.

Note: These are not the official results for 2010.

     Overall 2010 modified
1.   Jesse2040          951.35
2.   Hiro_Kunimi_80     943
3.   doicare            927.56
4.   confuziz           917.27
5.   jvm                912.98
6.   Saiyar             905.51
7.   Jonsoncao          904.48
8.   Pachter            900.77
9.   rostocker          895.6
10.  bakemono           884.82
11.  Jokeropia          884.74
12.  archnemesis        884.45
13.  Strike             884.36
14.  Brakara            884.02
15.  scottnak           882.15
16.  N.A                881.95
17.  donny2112          875.04
18.  Road               873.37
19.  Scott32020         863.69
20.  Ydahs              857.38
21.  jj984jj            854.81
22.  Aad                852.05
23.  timetokill         850.61
24.  Megadragon15       850.18
25.  Orgen              848.95
26.  NeoUltima          848.83
27.  Osuwari            844.77
28.  andy_lhc           841.41
29.  skedar897          836.48
30.  SonicX_Zero        835.95
31.  Sadist             822.61
32.  Gamemaster_ca_2003 815.65
33.  WaltJay            814.13
34.  dragct             771.23
35.  SuperBanjo         760.95
36.  pitseleh           760.18
37.  botticus           752.85
38.  seady              752.53
39.  perfectchaos007    745.56
40.  rayner             716.38
41.  VegaShinra         715.08
42.  miladesn           706.41
43.  sciplore           698.46
44.  starship           691.1
45.  lowlylowlycook     675.73
46.  Averon             652.11
47.  modulaire          649.05
48.  Hammer24           632.22
49.  Zero-Crescent      620.9
50.  Baki               610.74

 

[Jesse2040]

What were the 2009 results?