TekkenMaster
Banned
There's a huge problem in the United States with prejudice against men's sexuality, by women and by the media.
Here's the stigma:
The male (any male) is seen by a huge number of women (perhaps even most women) as a rapist in waiting who'd love nothing more than to slip a pill in her drink and throw her in the back of his windowless minivan.
To these women it doesn't matter if the man is single, married, out looking for a one-night-stand, gay, out looking to buy a video game, or even a monk. I've spoken with many guys from all walks of life who have told me stories of women flipping out on them just for the most innocent interactions.
One recent extreme example of this: A friend's younger brother is a sophomore in college, and part of an engineering-related activity group. This girl in the group has been working with this guy for at least several months. So during a group party (some alcohol involved but no one was very drunk), this group of about 9 people are congregating to take a group photo, and the guy puts his arm on her shoulder, maybe earlier than other people started doing the same, but close to the same time. Also, earlier in the night he complimented her outfit. After a couple seconds her breathing increases, then she freaks out, throws his arm off and yells, "Help! He's trying to rape me; he touched me without my permission! I feel violated..." She proceeds to cry and threaten him with a lawsuit. At which point some saner members of the group take her aside and talk to her, trying to calm her down.
I've noticed an increasing trend of women banding together to complain about the "creepers" and "sketchy guys" at social events. In college, girls in my dorm would refer to any guy more than a year or 2 older than them as a creeper; unless of course the guy was an athlete.
But what makes a man a "creeper" or "sketchy"? Because it's not just the 40-something greasy dude hitting on college age girls or the guy who spends the entire night staring at a girl from across the room with his hands in his pockets. It's everyone, except perhaps for guys who are so desirable in the girl's eyes that all rape-fear washes away...the hip, attractive young doctor pulling in 250K a year, the famous musician, the musclebound and famous college athlete.
Men these days are afraid to flirt, afraid to seek relationships, afraid to even talk to many women. So the men stop really trying to meet women and become more easily pushed around, less confident, in essence, more "beta".
I blame ridiculous sexual harrassment training classes from as early as 2nd grade (at least that early in my school.)
Case in point: the hoverhand phenomenon:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417784
Sure many of these guys are simply anxious insecure virgins, but hell, I hoverhanded for years after losing my virginity, mostly with girls I didn't know too wells since I had it drilled into my head for decades not to touch a woman unless she either touches you first or explicitly grants permission. It was a foreign concept to me from the ages of 8 to 16 that a woman would *want* to be hit on in a sexual way by a man.
That's why we see so many "beta males" these days. They are afraid of people's potential reactions to them if they were to be more confident with women. They simply don't want drinks thrown in their face at the bar if they offer a the girl a flirty compliment or touch them even in a non-sexual, playful way. They don't want to be labelled a weirdo or creep.
SO WHAT DOES SOCIETY NEED TO DO TO SAVE THE SORRY STATE OF MEN AND GIVE THEM THEIR CONFIDENCE BACK?
some ideas:
1) Cut back on the huge numbers of sexual harrassment classes that make it seem like you'll go to jail for flirting with a girl.
2) Stop those college "gender relations" skits/programs that you get on the first weekend that teach you that every college male student wants to drug and rape every female student.
3) A bigger push for men to try to be more "alpha" in their relations with women. "Alpha" in the social sense as laid out in pick-up artist books such as The Game by Neill Strauss.
4) Remove radical feminism from mandatory sexual harassment classes, and don't start these classes at such a young age.
TL;DR:
So GAF....any stories showcasing this ridiculous fear of men's sexuality? What is the solution to this?
EDIT to clarify my stance on sexual harassment programs:
I think anti-sexual-harrassment programs are great, I just think that some of them have gone too far.
Hence the fear many men have of making first physical contact with a girl, or even approaching a random girl in a bar/at a party/on the street even if just for simple conversation or to ask the time.
I know women of course have it harder than men when it comes to worrying about rape, and women live in a world that is terribly unfair to them in many ways.
But there should be a solution to this which doesn't create what is in my opinion an extreme overeactive defense mechanism against all men.[/B]
Here's the stigma:
The male (any male) is seen by a huge number of women (perhaps even most women) as a rapist in waiting who'd love nothing more than to slip a pill in her drink and throw her in the back of his windowless minivan.
To these women it doesn't matter if the man is single, married, out looking for a one-night-stand, gay, out looking to buy a video game, or even a monk. I've spoken with many guys from all walks of life who have told me stories of women flipping out on them just for the most innocent interactions.
One recent extreme example of this: A friend's younger brother is a sophomore in college, and part of an engineering-related activity group. This girl in the group has been working with this guy for at least several months. So during a group party (some alcohol involved but no one was very drunk), this group of about 9 people are congregating to take a group photo, and the guy puts his arm on her shoulder, maybe earlier than other people started doing the same, but close to the same time. Also, earlier in the night he complimented her outfit. After a couple seconds her breathing increases, then she freaks out, throws his arm off and yells, "Help! He's trying to rape me; he touched me without my permission! I feel violated..." She proceeds to cry and threaten him with a lawsuit. At which point some saner members of the group take her aside and talk to her, trying to calm her down.
I've noticed an increasing trend of women banding together to complain about the "creepers" and "sketchy guys" at social events. In college, girls in my dorm would refer to any guy more than a year or 2 older than them as a creeper; unless of course the guy was an athlete.
But what makes a man a "creeper" or "sketchy"? Because it's not just the 40-something greasy dude hitting on college age girls or the guy who spends the entire night staring at a girl from across the room with his hands in his pockets. It's everyone, except perhaps for guys who are so desirable in the girl's eyes that all rape-fear washes away...the hip, attractive young doctor pulling in 250K a year, the famous musician, the musclebound and famous college athlete.
Men these days are afraid to flirt, afraid to seek relationships, afraid to even talk to many women. So the men stop really trying to meet women and become more easily pushed around, less confident, in essence, more "beta".
I blame ridiculous sexual harrassment training classes from as early as 2nd grade (at least that early in my school.)
Case in point: the hoverhand phenomenon:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417784
Sure many of these guys are simply anxious insecure virgins, but hell, I hoverhanded for years after losing my virginity, mostly with girls I didn't know too wells since I had it drilled into my head for decades not to touch a woman unless she either touches you first or explicitly grants permission. It was a foreign concept to me from the ages of 8 to 16 that a woman would *want* to be hit on in a sexual way by a man.
That's why we see so many "beta males" these days. They are afraid of people's potential reactions to them if they were to be more confident with women. They simply don't want drinks thrown in their face at the bar if they offer a the girl a flirty compliment or touch them even in a non-sexual, playful way. They don't want to be labelled a weirdo or creep.
SO WHAT DOES SOCIETY NEED TO DO TO SAVE THE SORRY STATE OF MEN AND GIVE THEM THEIR CONFIDENCE BACK?
some ideas:
1) Cut back on the huge numbers of sexual harrassment classes that make it seem like you'll go to jail for flirting with a girl.
2) Stop those college "gender relations" skits/programs that you get on the first weekend that teach you that every college male student wants to drug and rape every female student.
3) A bigger push for men to try to be more "alpha" in their relations with women. "Alpha" in the social sense as laid out in pick-up artist books such as The Game by Neill Strauss.
4) Remove radical feminism from mandatory sexual harassment classes, and don't start these classes at such a young age.
TL;DR:
So GAF....any stories showcasing this ridiculous fear of men's sexuality? What is the solution to this?
EDIT to clarify my stance on sexual harassment programs:
I think anti-sexual-harrassment programs are great, I just think that some of them have gone too far.
Hence the fear many men have of making first physical contact with a girl, or even approaching a random girl in a bar/at a party/on the street even if just for simple conversation or to ask the time.
I know women of course have it harder than men when it comes to worrying about rape, and women live in a world that is terribly unfair to them in many ways.
But there should be a solution to this which doesn't create what is in my opinion an extreme overeactive defense mechanism against all men.[/B]
