I've read that BF1 have different fram rates on PS4 and PS4 Pro, I might remember that wrong though. However, in 19 days we will probably know what is improved for the PS4 Pro version and what the Pro does will most likely be upped by Scorpio.
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Destiny 2 unveil event will have PC and PS4 versions, allow lots of YouTuber gameplay
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I've read that BF1 have different fram rates on PS4 and PS4 Pro, I might remember that wrong though. However, in 19 days we will probably know what is improved for the PS4 Pro version and what the Pro does will most likely be upped by Scorpio.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Is there any word on matchmaking for raids?
I want to purchase the collectors edition but not sure I should bother as I played the majority of the first game solo.
I want to purchase the collectors edition but not sure I should bother as I played the majority of the first game solo.
Nothing yet. Why did you play a game like Destiny solo? It's all about the community.
BigEmil
Junior Member
No it's just both run at unlocked framerate both try to stay in 60fps but drops abit mainly in Conquest mode, while Pro holds on more.
While Battlefront is stable 60fps even on standard PS4, same large map 64 player multiplayer etc. Battlefield 1 was partnered with MS so i guess XB1 was the lead platform for that one and has slightly more stable framerate there too, while Battlefront was partnered with Sony so the PS4 was lead platform development for that one
It all depends on devs prioritisation on optimising between performance and visuals and working harder on specific platforms
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Ah, okay. I remembered it in a different way. Thanks for the correction.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
The community will die pretty hard and fast if it doesn't have dedicated servers. Also, if you forego dedicated servers in general, you'll have the shitty lag issues and very low tick rate that the first one had, and it was one of the things that drove me away from the MP. I remember when the people with the most amount of lag could own an entire team because of the stupid compensation bullshit Bungie implemented. P2P on PC in 2017 is basically a death sentence for a game like this, especially for one as large as this.
Yeah, Black Spindle is super cool. I would love more like that one.
I don't think anyone is arguing that features will be gimped on other platforms because of the marketing deal. Usually the version with the marketing deal winds up being the lead platform simply because that's the one that's shown off at press events and in marketing the most.
All people are speculating at here is that it seems odd that they would show off the PC version alongside the PS4 version if it absolutely blew the PS4 version out of the water due to the fact that they have a close business relationship with Sony, Sony likely is involved in the planning for the event, and that's where the majority of their players will be, not that the PC version would be worse because of the existence of the deal. If the deal was with MS it wouldn't be surprising since they're pushing Windows gaming features more lately.
It's not an exotic if everyone has it. That was the allure. They need to make the quests accessible yet difficult so that exotics do not be come saturated.
I think the design of the exotics needs an adjustment for 2. I don't mind if a lot of people can get them but they all need to be very powerful so that there's a lot more choice and variation involved in what people choose. There's too many legendaries that outclass exotics in a lot of ways and don't take up that slot so only a couple exotics to make it regularly into loadouts because they're so much better than the others.
I totally agree with you. I remember when I got my Light Beyond Nemesis for the first time, people actually sent me messages asking about it, how did I get it, where did I get it, etc. It's not like I need to have that happen again, but there were something mysterious with the exotics in the beginning of Destiny.
It's not exactly a crazy idea.
This has never happened ever and Activision isn't a weak publisher that can be strong armed by a platform holder. Last gen they were the only pub that told Sony to get their shit together or suffer the consequences.
Yeah it is. Now saying the PC version is going to be gimped due to consoles being lead because that's where most of the sales are going to be, yeah, that's not. That happens. But a game that's this big on multiple platforms, showing up on PC for the first time to another potentially big audience being gimped because of a marketing deal is pretty ridiculous. Especially when they strived for parity between the XB1 and PS4 versions of Destiny 1, despite the PS4 being more powerful and Destiny having a Sony marketing deal.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
I think they will have a separate sandbox design. Probably no aim assist on PC. Certainly not in crucible. I hope they talk about this in the stream.
I don't think they'll go in to such details during the stream, but there will probably be lots of information during the event and the coming days for more technical details.
RebornYeti
Member
I mostly played Destiny solo, and I had a blast. I would join Raid groups and play in the Crucible from time to time, so I had a little interaction with the community.
I know I will most likely be starting Destiny 2 solo as well, and I am stoked.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I believe if you're going to bring a big franchise (I know it's one game, but it's well known) to another platform and only half ass it to where it's just like the other ones (not using the given hardware, server and software advantages that PC games can provide), it's going to die off pretty quick and basically point to Activision that it's not worth making another PC version. I believe it's in the best interest of Activision and Bungie to take full advantage of the PC version, but who knows with them. Hell, Bungie hasn't made a PC title in 13 years, so it could be a rough one.
Well see, now the argument is silly. You're admitting you think it could be gimped but give another reason for it. But you and I would never know the actual reason for it if it's gimped but what you're saying isn't very different than what I'm saying: PS4 isn't as powerful as PC and so they gimp the PC version because of it.
The only difference is that you're saying "consoles in general" and not just PS4, which is kind of semantics in the end.
There isn't that big of a difference between XB1 and PS4. The parity issue was mainly due to how tied down Destiny was to the last gen games. Even vault space was held back because of that.
I 100% believe that Destiny 2 will not get a large boost on Scorpio because it would potentially put it above PS4 Pro.
I played Destiny solo, but when the first DLC dropped I had a few friends to play with and it made it soooo much better. Ever since that first DLC I've always played the missions co-op. It's like a different game.
But do you mean that you like it better to play it by yourself?
The Salt Life
Banned
I just think everyone needs to set their expectations at 30, and keep that expectation there, it will not be 60.
If it is, then I'm wrong, but it's better that I'm wrong then seeing so many people be like "fuck this, this game sucks, 60fps or i'm not buying" all because they had unreal expectations.
The real expectation should be 30.
If it is, then I'm wrong, but it's better that I'm wrong then seeing so many people be like "fuck this, this game sucks, 60fps or i'm not buying" all because they had unreal expectations.
The real expectation should be 30.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
This sounds really great and all. I like the fact we are going to get lots of gameplay and I hope that gameplay is present in the final game.
EL CUCO
Member
Thanks for not meeting my expectations with this post after reading your GAF name
For real? Haha, I always got that impressions from them, that they're just small entitled brats, at least in mind.
The Salt Life
Banned
I'm sure they invited the big ones, which ones got snubbed?
Lord of Castamere
Member
It's probably going to be The Last City shown at the event, but I hope Old Chicago is in the game.
Aztechnology
Member
Well unless the PS4 pro has a 60fps mode.
What I think what really is the deciding factor, at least for me is that they are doing that shitty extensive time exclusive stuff again which means it's basically PS4 or gimped content.
No friends/Forever alone.
I had a group for a brief time when TTK came out and we did the normal and hard mode Oryx Raid. Unfortunately they had a falling out so we could never get the full number back up to normal numbers. I often like to play at times when no one else is on so just having a way to match make with others on the better late game stuff would be amazing... or I just need to find a new group.
Exotics have never meant to be rare in Destiny.
Even in Year 1 before stuff like 3 of Coins Madé them "too easy to get", Xur sold EVERY SINGLE non-Raid/bounty/PlayStation exclusive Exotic Weapon. Not only did he sell them all, but actually sold them *twice or more*.
With Gjallarhorn being the big outlier because it was only sold at the beginning and end of the year and some folks took months to get it, pretty much everybody who played the game regularly had every single weapon.
Exotics are meant to be unique and situationally useful, which they are. A lot of people want them to be super powerful or very rare, categories which they have rarely fallen under.
The problem with exotics is that legendary weapons are straight up better than many of them, and with armor is that there is usually one good exotic while all the others aren't nearly as useful.
The Salt Life
Banned
Depends, if it comes out on a Friday I'll take off that following Monday, and then take off thursday Friday Monday the following week
Pjsprojects
Member
Well Im happy enough at 30fps for PC. The first Destiny plays very well so anything that level or above is fine.
It's crazy since first Destiny is identical on both PS4/XBO
I guess it kind of depends. As I said, they're generally better than any given legendary at at least some situational encounter. Generally speaking No Time To Explain is worse than any well-rolled legendary pulse. But if it's a Small arms CoE Challenge where you wanna get precision kills, NTTE basically has infinite ammo and will shine. You could paint a similar picture for most Exotics - there will be some place or moment where they're perfect for the job even if they're not fantastic overall or in general.
As for Armor, there's some garbage out there but I think there's multiple good options for every class. On my Warlock I switch between Ophidian, Manacles, Ram, Starfire, Voidfang... on my Hunter I love Shinobu's, Tarantella, Bones, Frost-ees, Graviton, Symbiote... Titans are more limited because of the way I play them so it's basically Garrison or Armamentarium for me, but Saint-14, Glasshouse also have their uses. Again, some are very useful overall and thus get used far more than others, but most will be excellent and optimal in at least some context.
anothertech
Member
That seems to make the idea less crazy tbh.
Hunter-Zero
Member
Well that was my plan, but that week was already taken...damn you random coworker
Although it hasnt been officially confirmed, an insider was able to nail the story and said matchmaking was in. I think this was Shinobi?
Would alleviate the no matchmaking bullet point
Do it. I've booked three weeks off.
But that's what I'm saying: that it will be identical. I'm not arguing that the PS4 version will be better than the PC version.
What.
O_O
I have 40 vacation days to use this year. So why not take a couple of days off for Destiny.
ZehDon
Member
Damn, I only took two. Bah, who needs sleep anyway.
anothertech
Member
Hnnnnnnnnggggggg
wesleyshark
Banned
I know i am
Two weeks will probably be enough. I'm not going to play Destiny 2 for three whole weeks. I haven't planned to do that at least. :lol
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Pause for a moment, and think about what people expected from Destiny 1.
But maybe that is what we'll get, and I wouldn't be the one to complain about it.
Dreathlock
Member
There is zero chance this is 30 fps.
They cant release a 30fps shooter in 2017 while having a pc version. The visual difference would be too massive.
They cant release a 30fps shooter in 2017 while having a pc version. The visual difference would be too massive.
franklyshankly
Member
Almost every AAA game is 30 fps on console and 60 (unlimited) on PC along with a "massive visual difference." Why would Destiny be so different?