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DF: Battlefield 4 XB1 vs. PS4

A quick look at my post history would have showed you that I have no particular interest in XBox One or PS4. I don't own one of either, nor will I. A quick look would have stopped you looking silly.

I don't have have to look at your post history to know that your comment was trying to downplay PS4 advantage.

Did I mention any time frame? Speaking of time, stop wasting mine, cheers.

You didn't, but disproving an old argument that already no one believe now doesn't make any sense. A lot of things have changed since then.
 
Considering the hardware gap I kind of expected more of a difference in the video. Meh, I'm not seeing what the big deal is.

I want to type this in all caps, but I will refrain. Youtube videos are compressed to hell. You are losing a ton of detail when you watch them. 900p on your 1080p TV is going to look much better than 720p. 1080p is gonna look even better.

I've got Ghosts on both next gen consoles, and the difference between 1080p and 720p is huge, even if the online videos don't make it blatantly obvious.
 
720p vs 900p is not exactly that tiny. Especially when in the past 10% of less pixels in the ps3 version were considered total garbage.

PS3 versions also looked worse detail-wise a lot of the time, on top of the worse framerate and resolution. Even in screenshots they looked unimpressive.
 
PS3 versions also looked worse detail-wise a lot of the time, on top of the worse framerate and resolution. Even in screenshots they looked unimpressive.
Because COD Ghost on xbone is so appealing in the screenshots. We have seen just a bunch of multiplat titles on xbone, even in the exclusive tech wise, it seems can't handle properly a steady 30 fps. To me not seems a good signal. But we can to continue to repeat ps3 was a lot worse.
 
PS4 should have been 1080p but still good news for PS4. What a turn around for sony for the new gen.
Man, I've been saying this all along, wish this was 1080p, but I suspect there was not enough time to optimize and make it out for launch, hence all the issues that we've been having with the game as it is. Bf5 most certainly will be imo, especially with all dice has said on mantle.
 
Mature tools will help close the gap for sure. And once devs can tame the complex beast known as esram(more complex than working with x360's edram), 900P XB1 games will be common for sure. I can't wait.

ESRAM isn't a beast. It's a burden, and will be throughtout the consoles lifetime.

I also really enjoy reading that "mature tools will help close the gap." Because obviously, the PS4 tools will stagnate....

Every console has a limited potential. This potential can be estimated by considering the available technology in a console, and you could argue that "maturing tools" dictate how fast this potential can be reached.

At this stage in the game, it should be clear which console had the most potential.
 
I wonder if Microsoft would have been better off going with 10cu and 64mb esram instead. It's clear that they bet on the esram being used as a cache for boosting gpu utilization as a way to close the gap to the ps4. It's also clear that 32mb of esram is inadequate for this purpose. Right now they have a smaller gpu and a slower memory architecture. I have both consoles and I borrowed a friends copy of AC4 for the Xbox One to test the difference myself. I understand it isn't even the game with the biggest differences but to me on my 46inch Samsung led from 8ft they're pretty obvious. This is almost certainly going to hurt the Xbox One over this generation, particularly when devs start pushing the ps4 to sub 1080p.
 
Man, I've been saying this all along, wish this was 1080p, but I suspect there was not enough time to optimize and make it out for launch, hence all the issues that we've been having with the game as it is. Bf5 most certainly will be imo, especially with all dice has said on mantle.

Hopefully BF5 will not be cross platform. I think the amount of resources Dice have is far too spread out because of it.
 
Mature tools will help close the gap for sure. And once devs can tame the complex beast known as esram(more complex than working with x360's edram), 900P XB1 games will be common for sure. I can't wait.

So you're one of those people that think the X1 will keep on improving while the Ps4 just sits there? So the Ps4 won't improve at all? It won't get better tools? Nothing? I mean come on dude, if the X1 is going to improve then so is the PS4. That means either the gap will remain and it'll widen.
 
Y'all can scream about pixels all you want, it looks great to me - and everyone else I know too.

So odd contrasting reactions between this forum and the real world.
 
Because I prefer Xbox Live over PSN, because my friends play on Xbox, because I prefer Xbox controller over Dualshock, because I have more than over a year left for my Gold subscription, because I prefer MS exclusives over Sony exclusives, because I prefer MS' vision with Kinect over Sony's whatever their vision is (moarr powerr I guess), and finally personal preference I like MS overall more than Sony.

X1 with a game and 2 controllers is cheaper than PS4 with a game, 1 controller and camera purchased separately.

HAHAHAHAAH.
 
What does it mean for a developer to "optimize" a game for a specific platform?
What do they do to optimize the game?
 
Banderas wasn't lying

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Holy shit : lol.
 
Because it's a forum and I'm allowed to post my opinion on the matter.

Its a thread where its all about two versions of the same game with one being better than the other. It matters to people on here, there are many other things that real world people care about price being the biggest one.
 
Originally Posted by Taurus

Because I prefer Xbox Live over PSN, because my friends play on Xbox, because I prefer Xbox controller over Dualshock, because I have more than over a year left for my Gold subscription, because I prefer MS exclusives over Sony exclusives, because I prefer MS' vision with Kinect over Sony's whatever their vision is (moarr powerr I guess), and finally personal preference I like MS overall more than Sony.

X1 with a game and 2 controllers is cheaper than PS4 with a game, 1 controller and camera purchased separately.

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Kinda hard to care a lot about the differences with effects and assets being the same.
The assets and effects are the same now but they are certainly more palpable at a higher resolution, you can see them cleaner and clearer and by extension it's even more impressive. Framerate is also notable in this comparison as we're no longer talking single digits like last gen for the most part.

The question you may want to ask is; why when the HBAO effect was implemented on the XBONE version that it's framerate tumbled even moreso than what we saw of it beforehand? As the devs get more familiar with these systems, I'm sure they will be able to do more on both consoles, but the power difference will always allow the PS4 to handle all these effects at a higher resolution and better framerate, also in the future we may even get effects and assets not present in the xbone versions in comparison.
 
finally personal preference I like MS overall more than Sony.

Why so? I personally couldn't give two flying fucks about a conglomerate nor am I emotionally attached to one but I'd love to hear the opinion of those who do and who are. I'm sure your reasoning will be fascinating.
 
Raise your standards a bit. A better looking product is available on a console that costs less.

It doesn't matter.

Game is brilliant on the Xbox One.Slightly better graphics isn't going to change how im enjoying it.

Graphics fanboys are the worst. Gameplay is identical.

I'm very happy.
 
Y'all can scream about pixels all you want, it looks great to me - and everyone else I know too.

So odd contrasting reactions between this forum and the real world.

Are you going to start to engage the discussion on a technical topic, o are you going to continue to throw subjectivities into empirical facts.

Also if you find NeoGAF so "odd" that's ok. But you could do a lot of people waiting for account approval a favor by giving them your account in favour of yours.
 
Y'all can scream about pixels all you want, it looks great to me - and everyone else I know too.

So odd contrasting reactions between this forum and the real world.
I'm confused. This is a thread discussing differences between XO and PS4 and you walk in and post this? If it concerns you soooooo much that people discuss differences, how about make a thread downplaying tech differences and saying the general populace won't care. Let's see how much traction it gets.

If you dont like the thread, dont post. I dont mean to back seat mod but, you know, thread subject material and all.
 
Hopefully BF5 will not be cross platform. I think the amount of resources Dice have is far too spread out because of it.
I suspect they might want to tackle this by having two teams do battlefield from here on out, one team working on the last gen versions and Dice Main working on the PC and new consoles, they may even opt to outsource the last gen versions as well. I also remember reading recently that EA wants BF to be released every two years as opposed to annually so if they do go that way, it will also give them more time to deliver the product they really want to across all platforms.
 
It doesn't matter.

Game is brilliant on the Xbox One.Slightly better graphics isn't going to change how im enjoying it.

Graphics fanboys are the worst. Gameplay is identical.

I'm very happy.


It does matter considering this is a thread talking about the technical differences between the two. You like the game on the Xbox One, glad to hear it.

People discussing graphics in a thread that includes graphical comparisons... what has Gaf done !

I'm happy that you are happy.
 
It doesn't matter.

Game is brilliant on the Xbox One.Slightly better graphics isn't going to change how im enjoying it.

Graphics fanboys are the worst. Gameplay is identical.

I'm very happy.

That'd be sweet if those graphical differences didn't affect the gameplay
Yes, resolution matters that much
 
Lol, the defence of this underpowered console has literally been reduced to "I DON'T CARE SHUT UP"

Edit:

"Y'all can scream about pixels" just gave me some genuine laughs, so thanks for that!
 
Diminishing returns to the naked eye. The ps4 is the better version and no one here is questioning that. I'm saying that the X1 version is not remotely bad in comparison. If you do the math, then the numbers speak for themselves, but then you look at it. If you were playing the x1 version for a week, and suddenly started playing the ps4 version, do you think you'd immediately notice the difference?

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Diminishing returns to the naked eye. The ps4 is the better version and no one here is questioning that. I'm saying that the X1 version is not remotely bad in comparison. If you do the math, then the numbers speak for themselves, but then you look at it. If you were playing the x1 version for a week, and suddenly started playing the ps4 version, do you think you'd immediately notice the difference?
If you were a family of 6 (wife, husband, three sons and a new-born daughter), yet were suddenly greeted by a seventh member, a second daughter, at the table after a week, do you think you'd immediately notice the difference?
 
Y'all can scream about pixels all you want, it looks great to me - and everyone else I know too.

So odd contrasting reactions between this forum and the real world.

It doesn't matter.

Game is brilliant on the Xbox One.Slightly better graphics isn't going to change how im enjoying it.

Graphics fanboys are the worst. Gameplay is identical.

I'm very happy.

Because it's a forum and I'm allowed to post my opinion on the matter.

Welp.

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