SolidSnakex
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It's kinda pointless to do that since he stopped posting here when people started calling him out for all the BS he'd said about the PS4 before its release.
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It's kinda pointless to do that since he stopped posting here when people started calling him out for all the BS he'd said about the PS4 before its release.
Dark Octave
Banned
Wasn't expecting this.
With all that memory available, it doesn't seem too surprising.
With high-quality textures, room to exist in is more important than tons of raw power. Though of course high bandwidth and lots of TMUs doesn't hurt on the AF side of taking advantage of them.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
holy fuckI didn't do it
cyen
Member
Only having 16 Rops was really a bad idea, xbox one would need at least 32rops to be able to render the majority of the games at 1080p with quality settings and good framerate (at least 30fps).
Maybe they didnt aimed it for 1080p from the start and were caught off guard by Sony chip with 32rops and 18 CU.
Pc graphic´s card´s need at least 32rops for 1080p output with good quality settings.
Maybe they didnt aimed it for 1080p from the start and were caught off guard by Sony chip with 32rops and 18 CU.
Pc graphic´s card´s need at least 32rops for 1080p output with good quality settings.
Come on, it's not that terrible of a port. There's a big difference in the framerate on Xbox vs ps3 for bayonetta.
Framerate is much more important than resolution.
Prince Vultan
Banned
PS4 also has a big framerate advantage.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
It reminds me of the Nintendo fans saying graphics didn't matter when the Wii came out and only gameplay does.. yet, were always so quick to point out how superior GC was to PS2 graphically. I still remember the arguments that the GC version of RE4 was superior to PS2's because the visuals made it more "immersive" and PS2's extra content that added to gameplay didn't mean shit. A lot of Nintendo fans made a 180 at the drop of a hat last gen.
It's just human nature. The Playstation fans will be no different. This gen they'll be the ones thumping their chests about 3'rd party visual differences and shorter installation times, etc.
Everyone gets their turn. The circle of Gaming. Same shit different flavor.
The only real difference I'm seeing this gen is on the journalistic side of gaming. A lot of them seem extremely determined to convince people that both consoles are on equal footing despite all the evidence to the contrary. It's an exact mirror of CNN's coverage during the 2012 election. Everything is a draw no matter what happens, and if the party that's taking more heat ever get's an advantage make sure everyone knows about it to produce more parity between the two. It's text book political coverage.
Chobel
Member
polyh3dron
Banned
What about those of us who said RE4 was superior on GC, said multiplats were superior on 360 usually, and that multiplats are definitely superior on PS4?
Dark Octave
Banned
True. Frame rate should be the real difference at this point I guess.
mullet2000
Member
Bayonetta was 50-60 fps (360) vs 30 fps or lower (PS3). Not at all the same thing.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
The RE4 thing is different than something like the BF4 comparison going on right now. RE4 on PS2 had a lot of gameplay content the GC version didn't. It was because of that people were debating which version was superior. Visually, there was no contest...
Lol. If I only had friends in real life who I could shoot the shit with about AO implementations. I refer to it as H-bow, as you would pronounce Bowser in Mario in my head as "HBAO rig flexing" I think that was a thread title years ago.
I do love HBAO though. If you really want to see the difference between the implementations, try AC Black Flag and Batman AO. Beautiful effect in both.
Obviously my hypothetical case is downright absurd. Sharing the setup of the mocked one, however, it shows that it's the structure and not the elements that provides fertile soil for some head-scratching. If you have accustomed somebody to a situation that's exactly when a sudden change will be noticed, that's when the difference being minute will matter the least.
You thought the even smaller gap of Read Dead Redemption 360/PS3 version in both resolution and framerate was significant enough to mention before:
The frame rate difference in BF4 is pretty much bigger than any framerate difference you've enjoyed with the 360 over PS3:
Now the tables have turned, and it's dismissable as "small difference"?
LOL
I meant the comparison with Bayonetta was kind of the same. In this case, you switch the frame rate with resolution. The 900p vs 720p difference isn't subtle. Sorry to say, bro.
Frame rate is more important than resolution and while I'm happy that the XB1 version holds up well in that area, the aliasing is just way too obvious. As I said, the XB1 version is fine but the PS4 version looks noticeably better. Just accept it and don't let it bother you.
I own the XB1 version so I'm not trying to start any shit here, just saying how it is.
When the optometrist asks you what kind of eyewear you want, go with glasses. I think they're far more convenient, and certainly easier to remove at night compared to contacts. It helps that I like the way I look with glasses, of course.
Keep in mind that you aren't alone. This isn't the end of the world. Just think about how happy you'll be when you can tell the difference between 720P and 1080P like a normal person! It's all going to be worth it.
thelastword
Banned
Bayonetta was not that bad on PS3 in terms of framerate, the 360 version is way superior, but 30fps or less on the PS3 is laughable.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Those Gies tweets... Just why, is he consistently so fucking wrong.
the aliasing on xbone D:
bone with extra jelly
the aliasing on xbone D:
I still really wish the PS4 version was 1080p, but you really have to respect dice for targeting 60 fps. I sincerely hope they can nail down 1080p60 (no drops below 50) for BF5, and not worry about more effects.
It is amazing to see the reversal of fortunes between the two gens. It's really funny/ironic to see the XB1 one fans sounding like PS3 fans downplaying technical differences. I read these same threads religiously last gen, and started gaming back in the 80's...It's amazing how as much as things can change, they stay the same in so many ways.
It is amazing to see the reversal of fortunes between the two gens. It's really funny/ironic to see the XB1 one fans sounding like PS3 fans downplaying technical differences. I read these same threads religiously last gen, and started gaming back in the 80's...It's amazing how as much as things can change, they stay the same in so many ways.
CitizenCope
Member
Pretty much previews of this game alone sold me on PS4 over XB1. Glad the final build matched the previews. I was a huge XBot but was not a fan of all the 720p I was hearing. Had to move on.
QuicheFontaine
Member
I got that laser eye surgery a few years ago. It's been brilliant, everything looks so clear now.
Unfortunately, I now notice things like 720p v 1080p. So I don't know if I'd recommend it really.
Dragonborn
Member
Depends on whether or not the X1 version has better framerate.
ha no. ps3 bayonetta was 25fps average. For a game that is supposed to be 60fps, thats laughable and near unplayable.
Dreams-Visions
Member
lol OH SHIT. past comes back to haunt yet another GAFer.
Possibly the worst port in videogames history...
Chobel
Member
Nope, that would be Skyrim in PS3.
Prince Vultan
Banned
Hmmmm... I can see Bayonetta becoming to Xbox fans what the 1966 World Cup final became for English football fans.
Windom Earle
Banned
Yep, playing the game at 1080p with locked 60fps on PC but this thread is actually more enjoyable. :lol
Watching this whole resolutiongate from the sidelines is fun. And PS4 comes reasonably close to PC, so it's a good choice.
Neutralfanboy
Banned
I've went through several of their PC/PS4/XB1 picture comparisons and the only thing I notice is a slight blur on both consoles compared to PC. These comparisons are useless the only way you will see the difference is with your own eyes on a TV.
Pictures/Videos don't show the difference in resolution.
Pictures/Videos don't show the difference in resolution.
Honey Bunny
Member
.5 less for the XB1 version then, right Polygon?
soxinthebox
Member
Gies doesn't have to post when you have Gaffers hanging on his every word anytime he posts on twitter. Why that shit is posted here, I'll never understand.
dolabla
Member
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Hit the nail on the head here.
If the X1 one had missing effects, even more jaggies,blander colors and was 30fps, that is what I consider a big gap, something that is really noticeable during gameplay.
Though I can notice the increased aliasing on the X1 version, it is something that I have to look for.During gameplay I would not notice, it is still quite a nice leap over current gen and I'am still impressed by the X1's visuals, complaining about some jaggies just seems OCD and anally retentive.
Some of you should be pretty disgusted with the PS4 aswell because if the difference between if the X1 and PS4 is big then so is the difference between the PS4 and PC, the PS4 version still has jaggies!
ZealousMonkey
Banned
Arthur Gies reminds me of some kind of hipster douche with an agenda. I'm sorry but he does. Don't know the man he might be a cool guy but it doesn't look like it from the photos I see.
ZealousMonkey
Banned
That whole post up there was pretty awesome including Coldfoot's response.
I think the differences here are pretty huge to be honest. Anyone downplaying them is looking to convince themselves. Geez srry for double post.
It's not just "jaggies", the Xbox version is missing detail and clarity. It's immediately obvious when shooting targets from medium and long range.
Chuck Norris
Banned
According to quotes of you in this thread, this is a significant difference:
But BF4, COD etc. are not?
If BF4 on the bone ran at the same resolution as the PS4 version you can bet your balls it would run at 30 fps.