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DF: Battlefield Hardline Beta Performance Analysis 720p X1, 900p PS4, Framerate issue
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BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah good point.
Honestly, I don't know why many 3rd party devs do that more often. Even on the PS3 GT5 was 1280x1080, GT6 was 1440x1080 and they looked great.
I'm not going to touch the resolution issue, but the lazy over aggressive FXAA solution they use has no bearing on hardware. Instead it just goes to show how much time they are putting into their AA priority which is apparently not a lot. Even SMAAx1 would be better than over blurring the presentation with bad AA at subnative resolutions.
They literally just copy and pasted the same solution from BF4 with no alterations
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
One thing to immediately stand out to me was the weapon models being very unimpressive.
To be fair it's not a visually rich game even on PC.
I don't really get why they're still stuck at 720p/900p on consoles...Battlefield 4 was a launch title with everything that involves in terms of deadline and efficiency short-cuts but Hardline had time to improve upon that. I'm aware Visceral don't have that much ressources for this project but surely consoles are capable of better than this.
I guess we will have to wait until Battlefield 4 or Battlefront to see a respectable jump in graphical fidelity, especially if they're aiming for 30 and not 60.
I don't really get why they're still stuck at 720p/900p on consoles...Battlefield 4 was a launch title with everything that involves in terms of deadline and efficiency short-cuts but Hardline had time to improve upon that. I'm aware Visceral don't have that much ressources for this project but surely consoles are capable of better than this.
I guess we will have to wait until Battlefield 4 or Battlefront to see a respectable jump in graphical fidelity, especially if they're aiming for 30 and not 60.
Then they should call it something else and give Battlefront to a developer that won't turn it into a clone of their more popular franchise.
Journey
Banned
Systemwarrior
Member
PC and whats the other platform, PS4?? It looks really bad.
I prefer the console look. Too angular in pc.
lol
But for real, what's the inferior pic taken from?
PC and XB1. (⊃д⊂
Man, I've been playing on XB1 and it doesn't look that bad to me. Not that bad.
OMG thank you for saying this. Lol. Star wars is awesome. Battlefield is awesome. Put them together, you have awesome with hot sauce.
Portugeezer
Member
So it looks like they are working towards a pretty solid 60fps experience...and now everyone is losing their minds about the resolution...
Whats it gonna be GAF?...would these same people be posting about how the framerate makes the game "unplayable" if they had pushed for 1080p on the PS4 and the framerate was in the 40's?...
im not defending the game, or DICE, because the game is far from a stunner and there are obviously optimization (or lack thereof) issues going on here...but they seem to have done what so many people have been calling for...prioritizing performance over visuals...
or maybe this just hypocriteGAF showing its ugly face...
Whats it gonna be GAF?...would these same people be posting about how the framerate makes the game "unplayable" if they had pushed for 1080p on the PS4 and the framerate was in the 40's?...
im not defending the game, or DICE, because the game is far from a stunner and there are obviously optimization (or lack thereof) issues going on here...but they seem to have done what so many people have been calling for...prioritizing performance over visuals...
or maybe this just hypocriteGAF showing its ugly face...
Ehhh no, not solid at all.
Well then you have a different version than I do.
qa_engineer
Member
J
JoJo UK
Unconfirmed Member
I was under the same impression, is this incorrect?
GameSeeker
Member
I didn't say anything about "lazy devs", that was you.
Frostbite 3 was clearly designed for PC's and if you have a beefy enough PC it runs just fine. It was not designed for consoles and it shows. On current gen consoles, the engine is behind the competition in performance and features.
Yeah, sounds like you have a special version not even DF got.
they are really bad...almost to the point where leaving them out altogether would look better
Summer Haze
Banned
Worse res and worse performance on X1.
It's BF4 all over again.
It's BF4 all over again.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
But what other game has the scale of BF? CODAW looks better, yeah, but the maps in that game are a postage stamp compared to the stuff in a typical BF game.
The creators of Dead Space are at Sledgehammer Games now. They made Advanced Warfare.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Joke?
Let's go straight, a really good game to be visually appealing without distracting visual glitches must be 1:1 with the screen resolution and 1:1 with the screen refreshrate. That's a fucking fact. When people talks about prioritizing performance, talk about cutting down shaders/effects/particles/polygons here and there in order to approach to the fucking master rule. Native resolution + native framerate.
Everything else will be ... oh, but pr screenshots, oh, but cinematic experience.... awe moments in fucking set pieces for the mass.
#Run away.
Oh you mean small sections in the game where there's a very brief skip for less than a second? I've put 60+ hours into the PS4 version and it's a very solid 30fps.
DF also said Halo 3 in the MCC was a solid 60fps and it's not.
Systemwarrior
Member
The power lines on the console versions look like Morse Code.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I don't understand it. The game is graphically worse than BF4 and they had a 6 month delay along with more mature dev tools. What have they been doing?
Making a game for 5 platforms and trying to get the netcode down? I really wish 360 and PS3 would get lost.
Journey
Banned
XBO. It's taken from the comparison tool in the article.
Hot damn, I thought the PS4 version would look better than that given that it's running at 900p, but they're both really bad with the aliasing on the wires and the blurriness seen on the motorcycle tank. What happened to DICE? they were so good.
midasmulligan
Member
^ all of this
Summer Haze
Banned
Visceral made this game.
yes, of course...in a perfect world you want to deal with native resolutions and native refresh rates...or at the very least evenly divisible res/rates so you dont introduce any judder or scaling artifacts...
but <1080p resolutions did not stop games from last gen (Killzones, Uncharteds, etc) from looking great...
i realize people are talking more about shaders/effects/particles/etc...but regardless, this is obviously a situation where the resolution bump is going to effect things negatively...900p (Ryse) or even 720p (see last gen games) do not inherently have to look ugly...if they can nail the 60fps experience...or at least get damn close then i think anyone complaining about the visuals needs to think twice the next time they show up calling a 30fps game unplayable...
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Yeah I'm by picking up another BF game until last gen ports get ditched.
Looks like I'm missing out on Star Wars too then :/
Looks like I'm missing out on Star Wars too then :/