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[Bernd Lauert]

Again it's 4k Vs 1440p. It's too wider to say it's because Nvidia branded A game can be optimized better on a card, sure, but isn't it regular such huge gap in specs required just because it's more optimised in the other one

Doesn't matter. Again, compare to the 6800XT and your questions are answered.

 

[Riky]

It's not a trend, it's an exception. Most big games are overall performing better on PS5 : COD, AC Valhalla, NBA 2K1, Dirt 5 and Cyberpunk.

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

 

[assurdum]

That's normal, some game engine will better work with AMD cards than nvidia's ones, and sometimes the situation is the opposite. These two games are showing exactly that.

What means normal? You find normal a game can reach an average of 60 FPS in 4k in ultra setting in a 2070 card needs to runs 1800p with some graphic setting at medium on ps5? Why is it normal? How many times is happened?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy.

All this means is we need a PS5Pro and a XSXXX asap.

 

[assurdum]

Doesn't matter. Again, compare to the 6800XT and your questions are answered.

Sure doesn't matter. When ps5 performs like a 2080 S in a game it's because is bad optimized on Nvidia. But when ps5 underperform compared a 2070, it's normal. I don't know what to tell anymore. It's tiring

 

[Bernd Lauert]

What means normal? You find normal a game can reach an average of 60 FPS in 4k in ultra setting in a 2070 card needs to runs 1800p with some graphic setting at medium on ps5? Why is it normal? How many times is happened?

Hitman always ran better on Nvidia hardware. I remember it being the case in Hitman Blood Money (a game from 2006). It's all about the engine.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

-That's because it's a bug. Restarting checkpoint eliminates the bug completely. There's a bug on XSX where COD hardlocks to 30fps fyi according to NX gamer analysis.
-Minor drops in Valhalla, but holds higher res and higher frame rates better than XSX.
-Cyberpunk on Xbox runs One X code with two optional settings. It's 4K mode is good but it's 60fps mode is identical to that of the PS4 BC on PS5.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Sure doesn't matter. When ps5 performs like a 2080 S in a game it's because is bad optimized on Nvidia. But when ps5 underperform compared a 2070, it's because Nvidia is better optimized. ps5 hardware is always a variable.

You're so close to getting it. It's almost like you shouldn't compare apples to oranges.

 

[waquzy]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

 

[assurdum]

Hitman always ran better on Nvidia hardware. I remember it being the case in Hitman Blood Money (a game from 2006). It's all about the engine.

I don't discuss Hitman engine runs better on Nvidia. But I don't find "normal" such perfomance gulf on ps5, it's the first time which happens so it should make think more about it. Especially looking to the average difference in multiplat between the two platform. DF should as minimum investigate better about it indeed to rise the flag of the victory every time series X get a "win" to flame the console war

 

[silent head]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video

rx 6800xt 72cu RDNA 2 = 129% PS5 36 CU

Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output

Assassin's Creed Valhalla - what PC hardware is needed to match PS5 visuals?

And which settings get the best from your rig?

www.eurogamer.net

All versions of Assassin's Creed Valhalla support dynamic resolution scaling, adjusting the amount of pixels drawn on a per-frame basis in order to hit the target frame-rate. At launch, the 'window' of potential resolutions for both consoles scaled from 1440p at the lowest to circa 1728p at the highest - 67 per cent to 80 per cent of full 4K resolution on both axes. This remains the case for the PlayStation 5 version of the game, but lower bounds for Series X has reduced to 1188p - 55 per cent of full 4K.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla patch 1.0.4: Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 re-tested

Plus: 4K quality modes and Series S 60fps tested

www.eurogamer.net

 

[cosmicom]

I don't discuss Hitman engine runs better on Nvidia. But I don't find "normal" such perfomance handicap on ps5. Especially looking to the average difference in multiplat between the two platform. DF should as minimum investigate better about it indeed to rise the flag of the victory every time series X get a "win".

the "average difference" was because Xbox waited AMD finishing it´s RDNA2 GPU; that situation caused xbox dev kit tools to come later.

People forget that Xbox Series X is stronger than ps5, and that will be the normal.

 

[assurdum]

the "average difference" was because Xbox waited AMD finishing it´s RDNA2 GPU; that situation caused xbox dev kit tools to come later.

People forget that Xbox Series X is stronger than ps5, and that will be the normal.

You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. Stop to talk for PR quote

 

[phil_t98]

I can give you the results that nxgamer will find right now.

"PS5 is a superb machine, sony is the most awesomer thing ever. And what ive found doing these complex calculations is that PS5 actually plays Hitman the best. The lower resolution on PS5 is actually better than xbox, it somehow, using the magic of PS5 gives more detail than xbox's native one. The shadows, again, they're more magical on PS5, even though they run at a lower quality. And that framerate, huh ? Check that out. All in all, PS5 is by far the superior version. You should listen to me and my analysis, even though i have no idea what im talking about, im not in the field, i dont have knowledge about gamemaking and i dont have the information needed to make the claims i make, you should still listen to me sucking sony, pardon, doint tech analysis"


This about sums it up

The question is will he do this game and publish it if Xbox has the advantage?

 

[cosmicom]

You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. Stop to talk for PR quote

you have an appointment with reality

 

[assurdum]

you have an appointment with reality

Sure Phil.

 

[Superayate]

Sure doesn't matter. When ps5 performs like a 2080 S in a game it's because is bad optimized on Nvidia. But when ps5 underperform compared a 2070, it's normal. I don't know what to tell anymore. It's tiring

No, simply when PS5 runs like 2080s in a game, that's simply it is better optimize for AMD GPU architecture, and when it is more like 2070, simply that the game better use Nvidia GPU architecture, that's all and normal. Just see the 5700 XT with ACV and same with Hitman 3, you will find exactly the same thing...

 

[Antony1992]

Hi guys, I have just finished to watch the video from DF. What impressive performances from SX and SS. I remember when there were doubts about SS holding back SX, while it is keeping all promises MS did.
Anyway, SX is starting to show muscles. That 4k vs 'only' 1800p is something hard to swallow I guess (at least for some people who do not like high quality shadows either).
What a premium console Microsoft delivered.

 

[assurdum]

No, simply when PS5 runs like 2080s in a game, that's simply it is better optimize for AMD GPU architecture, and when it is more 2070, simply that the game better use Nvidia GPU architecture, that's all and normal. Just see the 5700 XT with ACV and same with Hitman 3, you will find exactly the same thing...

You missed my point. It's the first game which such disadvantage on ps5 compared.even.the series X. Is it series X an Nvidia card? How can be "normal"?

 

[dEvAnGeL]

these type of threads should be banned, it brings out the worst in people. It reminds me of Trump and his followers.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

these type of threads should be banned, it brings out the worst in people. It reminds me of Trump and his followers.

These type of threads are what bring traffic to your site. Why would anyone want to ban them?

Plus they bring eternal joy to me. Seeing people arguing over few extra pixels here, few extra frames there. It's fascinating to watch.

 

[Superayate]

You missed my point. It's the first game which such disadvantage on ps5 compared.even.the series X. Is it series X an Nvidia card? How can be "normal"?

I was still speaking about the nvidia cards because it is showing that differents architecture could show different results with different game engine. With Hitman 3, it is possible that it more limited by architecture differences/specs were XsX is over PS5, for example can be more limited by the memory bandwidth were XsX is over PS5. Contrary to other games which were more limited by specs were PS5 is better than XsX. That's all.

 

[Mmnow]

these type of threads should be banned, it brings out the worst in people. It reminds me of Trump and his followers.

You mean the guy conjuring up a near 50 per cent advantage for the PS5 from this DF video is disingenuous?

No... That doesn't seem right.

 

[ethomaz]

Maybe the switch version can drop the res down 540p and be crowned the king of performance

There is no Switch version.
There is a PC version being streamed to Switch.

 

[waquzy]

Hi guys, I have just finished to watch the video from DF. What impressive performances from SX and SS. I remember when there were doubts about SS holding back SX, while it is keeping all promises MS did.
Anyway, SX is starting to show muscles. That 4k vs 'only' 1800p is something hard to swallow I guess (at least for some people who do not like high quality shadows either).
What a premium console Microsoft delivered.

Indeed, the performance is so impressive that the Series S can't hold a locked 60fps at low settings at 1080p.

Also it's big brother dropping to low 40's on occasions.

That's some true engineering right there. Well done Microsoft.

 

[Physiognomonics]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

Because it runs at native 4K in that custcenes because of a random DRS bug, while it uses a lower res on XSX. It was confirmed by Dictator.

But in gameplay in the same scenes and with the same res PS5 always performs a bit better than XSX, while actually having better effects (more alpha effects, better shadows).

 

[Antony1992]

Indeed, the performance is so impressive that the Series S can't hold a locked 60fps at low settings at 1080p.

Also it's big brother dropping to low 40's on occasions.

That's some true engineering right there. Well done Microsoft.

Breath man, just breath and relax.

 

[Riky]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video

rx 6800xt 72cu RDNA 2 = 129% PS5 36 CU

Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output

Assassin's Creed Valhalla - what PC hardware is needed to match PS5 visuals?

And which settings get the best from your rig?

www.eurogamer.net

All versions of Assassin's Creed Valhalla support dynamic resolution scaling, adjusting the amount of pixels drawn on a per-frame basis in order to hit the target frame-rate. At launch, the 'window' of potential resolutions for both consoles scaled from 1440p at the lowest to circa 1728p at the highest - 67 per cent to 80 per cent of full 4K resolution on both axes. This remains the case for the PlayStation 5 version of the game, but lower bounds for Series X has reduced to 1188p - 55 per cent of full 4K.

Assassin's Creed Valhalla patch 1.0.4: Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 re-tested

Plus: 4K quality modes and Series S 60fps tested

www.eurogamer.net

 

[DavidGzz]

Indeed, the performance is so impressive that the Series S can't hold a locked 60fps at low settings at 1080p.

Also it's big brother dropping to low 40's on occasions.

That's some true engineering right there. Well done Microsoft.

What's that say about the PS5 when it has 44% resolution boost + better shadows on XSX? Go bump the threads where PS5 won to make yourself feel better, you obviously can't deal with this news lol

 

[Riky]

Because it runs at native 4K in that custcenes because of a random DRS bug, while it uses a lower res on XSX. It was confirmed by Dictator.

But in gameplay in the same scenes and with the same res PS5 always performs a bit better than XSX, while actually having better effects (more alpha effects, better shadows).

 

[Stuart360]

Indeed, the performance is so impressive that the Series S can't hold a locked 60fps at low settings at 1080p.

Also it's big brother dropping to low 40's on occasions.

That's some true engineering right there. Well done Microsoft.

Rent free.

 

[RoboFu]

Indeed, the performance is so impressive that the Series S can't hold a locked 60fps at low settings at 1080p.

Also it's big brother dropping to low 40's on occasions.

That's some true engineering right there. Well done Microsoft.

 

[Ic3man]

Looks and runs great on both consoles, Xbox with full 4K got the advantage though.

 

[Concern]

Guys are derailing this thread bringing up cod and Valhalla. If they need to bump threads where ps5 performed better, let them. Anything for them to cope.

On the other hand its nice to see we're back to df conspiracy theories and and "less is more" (44% less to be exact) arguments.

Crazy how one area in one level having a frame drop could be turned into the whole game having frame drops lol.

 

[waquzy]

What's that say about the PS5 when it has 44% resolution boost + better shadows on XSX? Go bump the threads where PS5 won to make yourself feel better, you obviously can't deal with this news lol

No need. PS5 wins this one as well. Like I already explained, frame rate is king this generation.

If I wanted to play games that stutter, I would have carried on playing on last gen.

 

[Shodan09]

these type of threads should be banned, it brings out the worst in people. It reminds me of Trump and his followers.

Is this a new version of Godwin's law? Xbox beats Playstation so everyone's a Trump supporter!?

 

[Snake29]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties. Valhalla now drops to low 50s on PS5. Dirt 5 the PS5 drops 30+ frames in 120hz mode when things get busy. Cyberpunk runs at higher resolution and higher settings on Xbox.

Only one camera angle of NBA is actually better.

Hitman 3 is the first game where a platform shows a total fixed resolution and settings advantage over a whole game.

It's clearly the case that you were blind all the time and didn't get the memo about all recent DF videos.. You where to busy sucking some VRR all day long.

 

[Bergoglio]

Xbox:

native 4K
60 FPS everywhere expect Mendoza level (50-60 range)
High shadow

PS5:

1800p (-30% resolution)
Medium shadow
Constant 60 fps

result: Xbox win

I think that a new trend is starting.

 

[cyen]

No need. PS5 wins this one as well. Like I already explained, frame rate is king this generation.

If I wanted to play games that stutter, I would have carried on playing on last gen.

Best comedy award so far. Well done!

 

[Flyingpanther]

I will probably buying both consoles in the end when they are both available in the Netherlands again. But will you really see the difference between 4k and 1800p from lets say 4/5 m distance?

 

[ethomaz]

As said, it's simply possible that Hitman 3 game engine fit worst with PS5 architure/specs than Nvidia one (or XsX one), that's all.

Look at RX 5700... same 36CUs but way lower clocks (8TFs).
Architecture is not a issue for AMD GPUs which PS5 is based (RDNA2).

 

[Soulblighter31]

The question is will he do this game and publish it if Xbox has the advantage?

im sure he'll do it if he can think of some angle where sony comes on top. Otherwise, he'll be too "busy". Not that his amateurish uninformerd videos ever helped anyone other than blowing hot air up sony's ass

 

[HoofHearted]

Yep.... this thread is going the way I thought it would....

 

[ethomaz]

PS5 drops huge frames on COD as shown in the DF v PC video, in the forties.

It only happens some times when the DRS auto disable and PS5 runs at native 4k.
You can restart a checkpoint to DRS enable again and runs at 60fps.

It is the bug Alex used to match the PC config at 4k that showed PS5 at 2080S/3060TI.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Guys are derailing this thread bringing up cod and Valhalla. If they need to bump threads where ps5 performed better, let them. Anything for them to cope.

On the other hand its nice to see we're back to df conspiracy theories and and "less is more" (44% less to be exact) arguments.

Crazy how one area in one level having a frame drop could be turned into the whole game having frame drops lol.

I know it's crazy. On many different specced PC's that level drops more frames at different points then in those flowers. Really makes it seem like some kind of bug rather then actual GPU stress. The opening of the level at the top of the mountain looking over the mansion has the biggest frame drop on PC but it's 60 on xsx. This again really makes it seem like a bug.

 

[MonarchJT]

Alex baguette and John finally had a reason to get the good champagne out.
Honestly it's sad that a major games analysis website is run by shills.

I wonder if DF managed to get this article out without creaming their pants?

is this a joke post ? my joke-o-meter is broken?

 

[iJudged]

wow

 

[waquzy]

im sure he'll do it if he can think of some angle where sony comes on top. Otherwise, he'll be too "busy". Not that his amateurish uninformerd videos ever helped anyone other than blowing hot air up sony's ass

Oh what's the matter? Feeling bitter about the fact that PS5 has been winning right left and centre? Regardless, I bet he has accomplished more in his life than you ever will! You tosser

 

[Silent Viper]

I'm late on this one. So PS5 better performance and XSX higher Resolution, right ?

PS5 is 1800p with medium shadows and also using Xbox one X and Pro graphics settings according to DF article. Textures set to ultra however.

Sx is native 4k with ultra textures and high shadows. It runs at much higher graphics settings at 60fps most of the time except in one area in Mendoza level area with heavy foilage and in Miami in Hitman 2 in one area.

If Shadows or resolution is reduced on SX then it will run same as PS5 but according to DF, drops are nothing major to drop any resolution or graphics. Its pristine on SX.