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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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Pseudo judo
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Where did I suggest hardware and not software. It says in the OP "software". One of us is imagining things and I don't think it's me.
No but it uses a lot of gpu ressources. The fact that xb1 version doesn't have any is quite telling.
Ol No Bones
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This thread is too funny!
RedAssedApe
Banned
aka how to ruin your picture. but they asked for it i guess. haha
Vire
Member
Amazing how bad DF fucked up. Thanks for the gif.
So lets only use comparsons that make the PS4 version look beter than?, i'll check that vid in a minute.
The fabrics on the buildings on the ps4 version are so much better (along with birds and grass)
Backfoggen
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Whoa that crane in the back ground has four free floating lines instead of three, amazing.
Sorry, but that was funny to me.
Isn't the PS4 image sharpened though? You're post processing images like DF does and this should e unacceptable imo.
Ah ok
eot
Banned
The PS4 shot is sharpened too though. Not saying you can't do it on your TV, but it's not the original.
You are again talking about the fucked up DF recording. You just saw the pictures I posted, how can you say that the X1 textures look better?
Because this is the texture difference you get from 720p to 900p.
Surprised this thread is still going... anyway QFT!
Yep, that clears things up.
TheRealTalker
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ambient occlusion. Shadowing an object next to another object basically.
You can see it here on the ps4 version. the shadow of the mirror
is it me is is the XO footage using more of a harsher lighting effect
shadows are more apparent etc...
Yeah, but on a real note, both have jaggies.
I didn't make the gif
MikeE21286
Member
Dat bird powah
Oh man...
Well expect lower framerate when it's patched in.
paradise_circus
Member
It's not so suited for the multiplayer, because objects will be very hard to see in the darker areas.
However, I think we will set up the gamma in the initial starting screens and the over-scan as well.
Xbox One Sleeper Cell.
I love how this turned it out. It just goes to show how much people equate high contrast to superior image quality. If you go on Facebook, instagram, and reddit you see landscape photos with blown out colors and contrast and people eat it up. The same thing is happening here and goes to show that most people love it.
If the default settings outputting from the consoles ship like this, most people will find the XBO version to look better. Sure, you can change your TV settings, but most people do not understand how to tweak a TV, and I would argue that clipped shadows and blown out highlights aren't even appealing, but your average consumer thinks they are.
That said, the PS4 version looks a lot more like the PC version in style, but I bet again most would prefer the high contrast. It took me years of taking photos to become turned off by that style. It's cheap, lacking depth.
If the default settings outputting from the consoles ship like this, most people will find the XBO version to look better. Sure, you can change your TV settings, but most people do not understand how to tweak a TV, and I would argue that clipped shadows and blown out highlights aren't even appealing, but your average consumer thinks they are.
That said, the PS4 version looks a lot more like the PC version in style, but I bet again most would prefer the high contrast. It took me years of taking photos to become turned off by that style. It's cheap, lacking depth.
shinra-bansho
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I didn't realise it at the time but the source file for the XO SKU in that gif was actually a jpeg.
So that could be introducing compression. If someone has a png I can remake the gif.
Edit: The point of the images the person posted was to show the effect post-sharpening can have, which you can replicate, if you really prefer it, on your TV settings.
Edit2: Oh DF's images are jpegs? I thought they'd use something like png or tif. Nvm the above.
So that could be introducing compression. If someone has a png I can remake the gif.
Edit: The point of the images the person posted was to show the effect post-sharpening can have, which you can replicate, if you really prefer it, on your TV settings.
Edit2: Oh DF's images are jpegs? I thought they'd use something like png or tif. Nvm the above.
that basically says it all really. DF's captures are ass.
It is post processed to get the point across that you can give the PS4 version the same oversaturated look and people focus on the actual differences.
No, PERFECT comparison because thats how both versions can look on your TV with the same oversaturated and sharpened settings.
...and then finally people can start focussing on this:
SneakyStephan
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AO is ambient occlusion, it adds shadows behind objects that block a lightsource
video games use a variety of cheap hack ways to do it , as doing a real accurate version in realtime is way beyond what a modern gpu can do
but it adds a ton of depth to a scene and makes it look way more believable, so even the approximation used in games is really sweet
it's one of the best settings for visual quality, games started looking dramatically much better once it was first used (in crysis and mafia 2)
this shows it well
look at where the two walls meet, the bottom of the fountain, the arches
ao adds so much depth
developers often just bake it into the textures too (so it doesn't come at any performance increase, but is no longer dynamic so doesn't look right when lighting changes or when objects are moved)
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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That .gif is damning.
StoppedInTracks
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No, let's not use comparisons from a crappy source that has definitely altered the contrast of the images. DF is not to be trusted.
digoutyoursoul
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zomgbbqftw
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That's a consequence of the lower gamma setting and higher contrast setting when capturing footage. Other comparisons don't really show that same effect because they used hardware provided by DICE, DF used their own stuff and fucked up.
infinityBCRT
Member
The AO seems janky on the PS4 version (the one shot with the guy hanging off the edge of the building, the AO looks like its been badly photoshopped onto the image), and I've seen better implementations on PS3/360 of AO. So I doubt its going to be very FPS intensive.
Now go back to Gamestop, show him this:
http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif
And switch your preorder again.
ConteZero76
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Will Ambient Occlusion addition affect XBox One framerate ?
Both the PS4 and Xbone have display planes, which allows for rendering the UI at a different res than the game. So you can have a native 1080p UI overlaid on the 720p games.
So why the hell is the Xbox UI so blurry? Even the mini map and the d-pad icon is blurred as hell.
Ardenyal
Member
Thanks for linking the gif. So hard to find good quality footage.
Woah! I just got a deja vu. I swear I've seen this before in my dream.
Wow, what a difference.
And those jaggies + sub-pixel breaks are even worse in motion...
Still disapointing that the PS4 version isnt running in native 1080p but the engine and game is demanding.
EDIT: And yes, PS4 has way better textures.
robertsan21
Member
question: is BF4 for PS4 and Xbox one, using all the power of the next gen consoles or are they gimped due to the need of having them on PS360?
My guess is YES...but I aint no expert.
Stuff like division etc are just so much better looking.
My guess is YES...but I aint no expert.
Stuff like division etc are just so much better looking.
A lot of movies uses that style as well, thus why people are used to it/love it. They all look like they've been shot during an overcast day.
But Dice probably uses dynamic so it could cause a decrease in performance when it is added?AO is ambient occlusion, it adds shadows behind objects that block a lightsource
video games use a variety of cheap hack ways to do it , as doing a real accurate version in realtime is way beyond what a modern gpu can do
but it adds a ton of depth to a scene and makes it look way more believable, so even the approximation used in games is really sweet
it's one of the best settings for visual quality, games started looking dramatically much better once it was first used (in crysis and mafia 2)
this shows it well
look at where the two walls meet, the bottom of the fountain, the arches
ao adds so much depth
developers often just bake it into the textures too (so it doesn't come at any performance increase, but is no longer dynamic so doesn't look right when lighting changes or when objects are moved)
Mr Moose
Member
Does this mean the Xbox One version will get its shadows, but overall look worse than it is now? (in some form).
The PS4 picture was sharpened and the X0's softened by a gaffer.
Its a last gen engine and pretty much worse than anything on either console in 1-2 years.