This is the real question.Why no Miles, Demon's Souls or Ratchet loading times?
Single data point analysis are the best analysis possible.Look at the full table.
You didn't read.damn external is faster
They stated why in the video, they said if a game is optimized for the PS5, you're already getting close to the best and the difference in just ms's by that point. The reason why unoptimized PS4 games are tested is to see how much brute forcing makes a difference here. Keep in mind those optimized games are going to be set at 5.5Gb/s as their target.
Did any of you complaining PAY ATTENTION?
Nice! That means I can get 4TB drive for like $395 right now on Amazon. I love it!
Some people seem to be confused, the drive in the PS5 excels at two things, being FAST AF, and being CHEAP AF to manufacturer. Sony's storage API is on some next level stuff for native and optimized PS5 titles. Rejoice brethren!
But everyone was claiming that the 5.5gb of the ps5 was actually 9 or 22gb/s. The ssd was being boasted in performance by console warriors as some unique thing that would make games impossible to be played anywhere else.
Now we know that isn't the case.
that shit can happen? bricked internal SSDs?It appears that soldering the SSD modules onto the board was a bad idea, that will only lead to PS5 bricks in the far future.
Someone neeDTS to test if the PS5 has a “fail to expanded SSD mode” for when that eventually happens.
It appears as… how? How is the scenario for users better on Xbox (you can trade the interna one and… nothing as it does not get recognised, it is not designed to be user replaceable either but it is not a concern… why? Dunno… )? How do people deal with any mobile phone or laptop with SSD nowadays?It appears that soldering the SSD modules onto the board was a bad idea, that will only lead to PS5 bricks in the far future.
That I hope both consoles add… but likely they will just offer users to send the console in for repairs or will find ways to reduce available storage in the main disks as it gets progressively worse (which is in the far far far far future) and you can use the expansion bay more and more as effective primary storage.Someone neeDTS to test if the PS5 has a “fail to expanded SSD mode” for when that eventually happens.
Over time, long periods, flash cells tends to essentially fail as you write to them over and over which is why multiple techniques have been invented to reduce the wear and tear (including redundancy).that shit can happen? bricked internal SSDs?
It's impossible replacing soldered SSD modules? People replace soldered RAM and APU chips in their consoles, so I thought replacing SSD should be possible as well.It appears that soldering the SSD modules onto the board was a bad idea, that will only lead to PS5 bricks in the far future.
Someone needs to test if the PS5 has a “fail to expanded SSD mode” for when that eventually happens.
No need to buy a 2 TB SSD right now. Very over priced. I agree this will be a very long gen. But thats actually a better reason to just go for a cheap 500 GB M.2 for now. Wait til like 2025+ as Gen5 SSDs come out and prices of these Gen4 drives will fall a lot. We will even be able to use Gen5 M.2 SSDs in PS5 too.My only tip is…it’s gonna be a long gen. Consider 2tf to be in a sweet spot to get better longevity!
Do PS4 games load faster from an external SSD?No need to buy a 2 TB SSD right now. Very over priced. I agree this will be a very long gen. But thats actually a better reason to just go for a cheap 500 GB M.2 for now.
Wait til like 2025+ as Gen5 SSDs come out and prices of these Gen4 drives will fall a lot. We will even be able to use Gen5 M.2 SSDs in PS5 too.
For example,
667 GB usable space on internal SSD
+ 500 GB usable space on M.2 SSD
+ 1840 GB usable space on external USB HDD ("2 TB")
= 3.0 TB of usable space. 60/40 split external / internal
Much cheaper and allows for plenty of space, especially since so many games are still PS4 games playable from an external HDD.
Custom modules that Sony almost 100% does not sell, the only way you’ll get them is from ”donor boards” aka already completely fucked PS5s then who knows if those would even work, they can/might be bound to the board they were removed from.It's impossible replacing soldered SSD modules? People replace soldered RAM and APU chips in their consoles, so I thought replacing SSD should be possible as well.
When it comes to PS5 durability I'm expecting SSD will be the last part in this console that will need replacement. Modern SSDs can write up to around 600TB before dying, so that's equivalent of installing 6000 games (100GB each).
Ultrawide or superultrawide is the only way to go. Movies and games look so much better in every aspect. This would have been the move, over targeting 4k, which is unobtainable on consoles 99% of the time.
seems like Series internal write speeds are much faster than ps5!
Why no Miles, Demon's Souls or Ratchet loading times?
Can be cloned and works, don’t think we have drives of that size (format) mind you? (haven’t looked)How is the scenario for users better on Xbox (you can trade the interna one and… nothing as it does not get recognised, it is not designed to be user replaceable
I agree 100% and that's why I only have a 500gb WD in my desk waiting for the update. I have a 5TB external hooked up and I have no problems moving games back and forth if needed, its like 7 mins...No need to buy a 2 TB SSD right now. Very over priced. I agree this will be a very long gen. But thats actually a better reason to just go for a cheap 500 GB M.2 for now. Wait til like 2025+ as Gen5 SSDs come out and prices of these Gen4 drives will fall a lot. We will even be able to use Gen5 M.2 SSDs in PS5 too.
For example,
667 GB usable space on internal SSD
+ 500 GB usable space on M.2 SSD
+ 1840 GB usable space on external USB HDD ("2 TB")
= 3.0 TB of usable space. 60/40 split external / internal
Much cheaper and allows for plenty of space, especially since so many games are still PS4 games playable from an external HDD.
Weirdly, yes:Do PS4 games load faster from an external SSD?
I honestly cannot imagine a less relevant test to focus on than drive to drive copy-speeds.
Talk about missing the point. Whoosh!
Faster than an external HDD yes.Do PS4 games load faster from an external SSD?
Does it work on unmodded / uncracked XSX and can you play games and not get banned on LIVE? How does cloning a failed drive help you?Can be cloned and works, don’t think we have drives of that size (format) mind you? (haven’t looked)
But clone the drive and it boots. Drives aren’t interchangeable between XSX and XSS though. Hence the cloning.
So in theory someone could make an adaptor to house a larger drive.
Works yes, if it’s just a GUID part naming scheme then any drive will work after a clone. (Just like XB1 systems)Does it work on unmodded / uncracked XSX and can you play games and not get banned on LIVE? How does cloning a failed drive help you?
I thought there was some link between the drive and the console activation which would mean this would still fail. So, has this been done and shown working and not creating problems or are we will at the hypotetical phase?Works yes, if it’s just a GUID part naming scheme then any drive will work after a clone. (Just like XB1 systems)
Creating one from scratch who knows yet. Don’t think anyone had had a need.
But since the drive is replaceable easily (doesn’t mean it will work) it’s still better than what Sony done for fixability.
I thought there was some link between the drive and the console activation which would mean this would still fail. So, has this been done and shown working and not creating problems or are we will at the hypotetical phase?
I think we are over worrying on both instances though.
Not tried myself as no need. But yeah the chances of the SSDs failing on both consoles are sparse at best, and chances of a fail will be within warranty.
Internal or External isn't the relevant issue. It's the custom I/O that ALLOWS for it to be that fast.damn external is faster
If I'm correct the sign up period is over but I'm not 100% sure.How do we sign up for the beta?
This one is for US but you can change the country in the bottom to matches your region.How do we sign up for the beta?
It is open since PS5 launch… it never closes (well at least while the console is on the market and having firmware updates).If I'm correct the sign up period is over but I'm not 100% sure.
Those two spots don't have holes.
This others site made test with different SSDs.
Samsung 980 Pro PS5 SSD Expansion Test
Testing the Samsung 980 Pro SSD on the PS5 Now that Sony has enabled the ability to expand the storage of the Playstation 5 in the latest software update (in beta at the time of writing), the range of potential PCIe M.2 SSDs that PS5 gamers are able to choose from is surprisingly vast. The minimumnascompares.com
Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus PS5 SSD Expansion Test
Testing the Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus SSD on the PS5 Now that Sony has enabled the ability to expand the storage of the Playstation 5 in the latest software update (in beta at the time of writing), the range of potential PCIe M.2 SSDs that PS5 gamers are able to choose from is surprisingly vast. The minascompares.com
Seagate Firecuda 530 PS5 SSD Expansion Test
Testing the Seagate Firecuda 530 SSD on the PS5 Time for another PS5 SSD Expansion Test and this time it is one of the hottest pick for the best M.2 NVMe upgrade drives, the Seagate Firecuda 530. Now that Sony has enabled the ability to expand the storage of the Playstation 5 in the latest softwarenascompares.com
WD Black SN850 PS5 SSD Expansion Test
Testing the WD Black SN850 SSD on the PS5 Yes, it's time for another PS5 SSD Expansion Test and this time it is the drive that received one of the most high profile recommendations so far (from Mark Cerny, designer and programmer, involved in the development of the PS5 itself), the WD Black SN850.nascompares.com
And those games that really stress the storage speed are exactly what would have been interesting to see, especially with drives rated below or exactly at the recommended 5.5GB/s.
What this video shows is neither interesting nor surprising, but completely expected.