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DF: Resident Evil Requiem Switch 2 Analysis: DLSS Is A Game-Changer
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OuterLimits
Gold Member
Especially about his "I can't tell the difference" a few days ago
When DF praises it
Subzero goes :
"wOw iT's GaRbAGe"
He's not even trying to hide the trolling. Sweettooth and James Sawyer Ford had more finesse
Briefly scrolling his post history and it's almost entirely in Nintendo threads whining about how much they suck.
Sweettooth and James Sawyer Ford would at least participate in other topics and weren't console warring 100% of the time.
Hero_Select
Member
You have such a hate boner for the Switch lmao
I've never seen someone spend this much time and energy trying to prove a meaningless point.
I am a the executive itself… Respect please.
LordOcidax
Member
PS5What console do you have?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
What a meltdown
He crashes out worse than Pam Bondi at a Senate hearing
you can watch video on youtube on a big screen it will give you a idea and the game looks like its being steamed from icloud, and gets worse late game. its mind boggling someone can call this IQ good. last of us 2 on ps4 pro looks vastly better then this.
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Moondoggy
Member
Uh, what?
It's not like it's flawless or anything.
But when compared to the still fresh in the memory 360p games on Switch 1, I think calling DLSS a 'game-changer' is rather fair.
I'm wondering about it.
It's similar to what's happening in Pragmata, where sometimes it looks like it uses a full DLSS SR CNN model, only to get very light edge treatment in another scene.
Is there something like dynamic DLSS in Pragmata - full DLSS model dropping to some version of DLSS Lite when GPU gets close to full utilisation?
Your video from post #52 is full of aliased edges that only get smoothed out after 0.25-0.5 seconds.
540p to 1080p on PC using DLSS SR CNN model is quicker than that - it doesn't take that long to anti-alias the edges.
What is it? A new DLSS version for Switch 2? Slower full DLSS 3.x SR?
In the DF video at the end of 22m26s there's a horizontal edge in the center of the screen that is anti-aliased, then it loses anti-aliasing for circa half a second and gets anti-aliased again. Another edge on the left side of the screen does the same thing (AAed - loses AA) and gets anti-aliased again in the beginning of 22m28s.
And what's going on with Oliver lately? He used to be more thorough.
What kind of analysis is that?
'about 540p'
'I think of the CNN variant'
Watching a 2-minute trailer told me exactly the same things.
'suspect PS5 is perhaps just using FSR1'
Incredibly informative...
Mr Moose
Member
He's trolling Subzero.
kevboard
Member
tbh. I am still surprised that there's no PS4 version.
there's probably still a decent market for it (isn't it still like 50% of monthly PSN users that are still on PS4?)
Mr Moose
Member
Probably can't be bothered dealing with the slow ass HDD in it.
kevboard
Member
It's not like it's flawless or anything.
But when compared to the still fresh in the memory 360p games on Switch 1, I think calling DLSS a 'game-changer' is rather fair.
I'm wondering about it.
It's similar to what's happening in Pragmata, where sometimes it looks like it uses a full DLSS SR CNN model, only to get very light edge treatment in another scene.
Is there something like dynamic DLSS in Pragmata - full DLSS model dropping to some version of DLSS Lite when GPU gets close to full utilisation?
Your video from post #52 is full of aliased edges that only get smoothed out after 0.25-0.5 seconds.
540p to 1080p on PC using DLSS SR CNN model is quicker than that - it doesn't take that long to anti-alias the edges.
What is it? A new DLSS version for Switch 2? Slower full DLSS 3.x SR?
In the DF video at the end of 22m26s there's a horizontal edge in the center of the screen that is anti-aliased, then it loses anti-aliasing for circa half a second and gets anti-aliased again. Another edge on the left side of the screen does the same thing (AAed - loses AA) and gets anti-aliased again in the beginning of 22m28s.
And what's going on with Oliver lately? He used to be more thorough.
What kind of analysis is that?
'about 540p'
'I think of the CNN variant'
Watching a 2-minute trailer told me exactly the same things.
'suspect PS5 is perhaps just using FSR1'
Incredibly informative...
they apparently had a tough time with embargos, getting actual review codes, and Capcom being extremely limiting with what can be talked about pre-launch.
they mentioned it in the PS5/Xbox video I think... maybe it was the Switch 2 video, not sure.
also, it's hard to get correct internal res numbers with DLSS, as you need basically frames that are untreated or you need to find ways to count recently disoccluded edges.
kevboard
Member
that's the most likely reason yeah. but it at least doesn't seem like a game that is designed around an SSD from what I've seen... but who knows.
I know it's on Capcom - they can't even show further levels in their videos.
Oh, yes I know.
However, in RE9's case it's actually quite easy. I pixel counted few freeze-frames myself (they were 540p).
Would like to know for sure if there's DRS or not.
And I just wouldn't call it an 'analysis' - it's more like a simple comparison rather than an in-depth analysis.
kevboard
Member
I doubt it has a dynamic res as they'd probably check during a 60fps moment, with nothing happening, and a lower fps moment where stuff happens to see if anything changes. and that should show an obvious difference.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Oh she's on crack in the game?
Mozza
Member
And then he was gone..................
Mozza
Member
It's not like it's flawless or anything.
But when compared to the still fresh in the memory 360p games on Switch 1, I think calling DLSS a 'game-changer' is rather fair.
I'm wondering about it.
It's similar to what's happening in Pragmata, where sometimes it looks like it uses a full DLSS SR CNN model, only to get very light edge treatment in another scene.
Is there something like dynamic DLSS in Pragmata - full DLSS model dropping to some version of DLSS Lite when GPU gets close to full utilisation?
Your video from post #52 is full of aliased edges that only get smoothed out after 0.25-0.5 seconds.
540p to 1080p on PC using DLSS SR CNN model is quicker than that - it doesn't take that long to anti-alias the edges.
What is it? A new DLSS version for Switch 2? Slower full DLSS 3.x SR?
In the DF video at the end of 22m26s there's a horizontal edge in the center of the screen that is anti-aliased, then it loses anti-aliasing for circa half a second and gets anti-aliased again. Another edge on the left side of the screen does the same thing (AAed - loses AA) and gets anti-aliased again in the beginning of 22m28s.
And what's going on with Oliver lately? He used to be more thorough.
What kind of analysis is that?
'about 540p'
'I think of the CNN variant'
Watching a 2-minute trailer told me exactly the same things.
'suspect PS5 is perhaps just using FSR1'
Incredibly informative...
So he is not agreeing with your narrative....... so he is wrong. Sounds totally reasonable.
Hero_Select
Member
Radical_3d
Member
Very happy for my brother but I'd like it to have a 30fps toggle. He's still in plasma town. No VRR even if it the dock could.
Stitch
Member
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
I mean...play stupid games, win stupid prizes, I guess. I like to play around with them.
Radical_3d
Member
videogamedude
Member
aww he wasn't all that bad lol... a little obsessed with the switch... ok a lot obsessed
but you gotta respect a console warrior
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
It's a beautiful day. RE9 on the Switch 2 and…..
Hero_Select
Member
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
What narrative are you speaking of?
Do you even know that Oliver stated in his analysis in September that SW: Outlaws is DLSSed to 1440p, but DF had to correct that info in October?
Do you think that Oliver is some kind of superhuman who never makes mistakes?
Am I allowed to use my own eyes or should I take the opinions of other people as gospel and never dare to seek answers myself?
And yeah, I would prefer that words such as 'perhaps', 'I think', 'I suspect' were not used in the analysis.
Don't you think that any kind of analysis should be based on something more meaningful than 'perhaps'?
And RE9 is fine on Switch 2 (graphics settings wise).
The only thing Capcom can realistically do to improve it is to simply offer a 40 fps option.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That would be a cool option. I like that Cyberpunk 2077 has the option.
I'll be the first to say that I really don't notice dips in the 45-60 zone.
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Hero_Select
Member
Fallout 4 also has a 30,40,60 fps option and the 40 is how I've been playing. Feels like a good medium and still looks good
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
It's a beautiful day. RE9 on the Switch 2 and…..
Capcom should have a fixed 40 fps option for RE requiem
I don't know why they historically insist on leaving it variable.
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It's not like it's flawless or anything.
But when compared to the still fresh in the memory 360p games on Switch 1, I think calling DLSS a 'game-changer' is rather fair.
I'm wondering about it.
It's similar to what's happening in Pragmata, where sometimes it looks like it uses a full DLSS SR CNN model, only to get very light edge treatment in another scene.
Is there something like dynamic DLSS in Pragmata - full DLSS model dropping to some version of DLSS Lite when GPU gets close to full utilisation?
Your video from post #52 is full of aliased edges that only get smoothed out after 0.25-0.5 seconds.
540p to 1080p on PC using DLSS SR CNN model is quicker than that - it doesn't take that long to anti-alias the edges.
What is it? A new DLSS version for Switch 2? Slower full DLSS 3.x SR?
In the DF video at the end of 22m26s there's a horizontal edge in the center of the screen that is anti-aliased, then it loses anti-aliasing for circa half a second and gets anti-aliased again. Another edge on the left side of the screen does the same thing (AAed - loses AA) and gets anti-aliased again in the beginning of 22m28s.
And what's going on with Oliver lately? He used to be more thorough.
What kind of analysis is that?
'about 540p'
'I think of the CNN variant'
Watching a 2-minute trailer told me exactly the same things.
'suspect PS5 is perhaps just using FSR1'
Incredibly informative...
Wait he really have had the courage to say such DLSS at 360p on switch 2 is better upsampler than the ps5 IQ?
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Buggy Loop
Gold Member
"like if we look at this shot like these wires here, switch 2 is very soft (→ IMAGE QUALITY/RESOLUTION) but much more stable (→because it is temporally stable, that's the whole fucking point of DLSS's foundation build on TAA) than PS5, likewise with the fence beneath it. And I think that's largely because is using DLSS, I think of the CNN variant, like the full fat DLSS here, which is a much better upsampler than whatever the PS5 is using. I actually suspect PS5 is perhaps just using FSR 1 or another spatial upscaler"
"...but like overall I would say that image quality is better on PS5 overall, but the end result can look quite competitive on Switch 2, especially in still shots where you give the image enough time to accumulate appropriate detail and appropriate anti-aliasing.."
Nothing controversial here, holy shit you guys are insecure.
Pick screenshots and don't include the whole context. Again another case of having no fucking english comprehension of what DF is saying or disingenuous takes to stir shit up. Going by who took the screenshots, it's probably the latter.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I'm surprised he was banned ... And permed at that!
darrylgorn
Banned
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
He fucked around and found out. He was thread banned (like usual) and then was so upset that he opened a new thread. Basically spat in the mods face and not reading the room.
I'm just glad the banned happened after I set him to "ignore." I was tired of the pointless shitting on Switch 2.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I get not liking a console but his constant need to poop on the Switch 2 version of ANYTHING got tiring. I just skipped past his posts. Is Gamer 79 still here or naw?
nordique
Member
Given that it is 360p, it looks quite impressive handheld with DLSS. Certainly not 360p
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
No one here thinks that the Switch 2 version of anything is superior to any other platform. We are ok with the reduced frame rates and resolution. It's something we accept with 100% portability and less wattage use. But some just hate when others are happy with something different.
I'll take portability with reduced visuals while sitting on my back patio watching my Kings lose to the Oilers, over having my gaming tied to a single screen in the world at a time.
nordique
Member
100%/. Switch 2 has its place, and is my most played console as well for similar reasons. Just got an LG G5 recently though so, depending on work schedule, I may be able to squeak some TV time too. This looks like a competent ps5 pro port as well a switch 2 port, and im a big RE fan. Don't mind the double dip myself.
Ah poor Kings. I hope you guys beat them in the POs once during the McD era.
I'm a Jets fan, rough season for my boys. (But thanks for sending over Gabe.)
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Radical_3d
Member
ML upscalers are going to have a heavy hit on the higher end or even mid to high hardware sells. And it's going to get worse from now on as technology advances.DLSS is certainly a game changer for the Nintendo hybrid system.
We went from this
to this
