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People don’t get to pretend the PS5 DE doesn’t exist, the Ps5 starts at 399$ and that’s a fact.
Considering almost nobody has a VRR display, and most people have Ps5s, it’s great that it performs so well.
Edit: Greez Ricky, you’re so easily triggered. Grow the fuck up you child.
The people I mentioned in my post, you seem to fit the bill with all your posts in this thread. Thanks for confirming.
Both machines cost about the same so why should there be some huge gulf in performance? Sure you can buy a PS5 DE if you like paying full price for everything and lose out massively in the long run but not sure where this great underdog tale is coming from where XSX has to be well clear otherwise it's a fail.
I actually thought there would be a bigger difference pre-release. Not huge, but bigger. I expected DRS vs Native 4k to be the difference based on how MS marketed their console and the way several tech sites reported on the spec differences.Both machines cost about the same so why should there be some huge gulf in performance? Because some of the bigger boys made you feel bad and shout at your screen pre-release?
Sure you can buy a PS5 DE if you like paying full price for everything and lose out massively in the long run but not sure where this great underdog tale is coming from where XSX has to be well clear otherwise it's a fail.
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Xbox graphs are noticeably lower in that frame. Either the frame graph is bugging or DF is skewing the results.Oh the irony. Put on some real glasses and look at the graphs.
How many people have a VRR TV? I don't and don't know anyone that does. Is it like a 2020 and newer feature? Seems like a great misdirection for those defenders of frame drops.
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OP now. When you have VRR one got no issues and enjoy the best console experience. DF should be ashamed of themself'sLooks like I was right. OP mentioned SeX drops to 53fps at some points, and that PS5 offers better performance in like-to-like comparisons. Like I said, they need to broaden the DRS range.
Do DF only use the bare minimum spec PC's when doing comparisons or is it High Eng PC's with RT cards. I would imagine more people own a VRR capable TV than a high-end RTX or TI cardPeople that can afford luxury items/features don't concern themselves over why others don't have it. Would be like me downplaying luxury features in an automobile like heated seats because most people don't own a car with that feature amongst other things.
People that can afford luxury items/features don't concern themselves over why others don't have it. Would be like me downplaying luxury features in an automobile like heated seats because most people don't own a car with that feature amongst other things.
There's more to a GPU than just TFlops. PS5 GPU has a lot higher pixel fillrate and rasterization throughput than XSX GPU.So why is the PS5 more powerful than the Series X despite being 2 TFlops less? It can't be the magic SSD lol.
Sucks that the majority of folk are gonna have to endure the lag.OP now. When you have VRR one got no issues and enjoy the best console experience. DF should be ashamed of themself's
You can blame Xbox fans which, since last year, touted loudly 12 TF full power RDNA 2 one and only, 52CUs matter for RT, it will obliterate PS5, PS5 is RDNA 1 9 TF console and what not. XSS is faster than PS5 at half the price. :/ So, when you see how games are so close on PS5 and XSX, yeah, it is delicious to see some pissed Xbox fans. Just look at this one.
How the hell DF could allowed to show this, but MS gave them XSX consoles. I mean, i don't get it.:/
Xbox graphs are noticeably lower in that frame. Either the frame graph is bugging or DF is skewing the results.
Seriously, you are only here for fuel the console war no ?
Even gtx 1060 can get avrg 60 fps on high setting @1440p, doesn't series S have better gpu ? And i wonder why PS5 and XSX should touch that 1440p territory for this game.. ?
- Dynamic 4K on PS5 and XSX. Native 4K during exploration, and 1296-2160p during heavy fight scenes. 1440p is more common. Identical image quality.
- 1440p max on XSS. 900p-1296p during fight scenes. 1296p is more common. Lower image quality.
- Upscaling and reconstruction is great on all consoles, and look very 4K-ish clean.
- 60 FPS on all platforms.
- Series S struggles to hold 60 FPS occasionally during exploration and mostly during each fight scene.
- Xbox Series X has some frame drops during fight scenes.
- PS5 also has some minor frame drops during fight scenes, but it is the most stable of all the 3 consoles tested.
- PS5 has a 0.5 to 1.5 second advantage in loading time. ~6 seconds on PS5 vs. ~7 seconds on Xbox.
Em...no. Read from the first page and onwards.
Sure because the majority of gamers are here on this forum right? I don´t have a VRR display or even a 120hz. My tv is 60hz without VRR. Here we are enthusiast sure here we can imagine a lot of people have TV that support VRR but those people here who don´t have a TV with VRR support add them to number of people outside of this forum who doesn't have a VRR display. So what will be the majority?I think it's you who needs to, we've just had a poll on this very forum where a significant percentage of people said they do have VRR capable display, it's not just TV's that support it, you don't need a HDMI 2.1 display.
That's why I laughed at your " nobody" has one comment.
I appreciate your noble efforts, this simple fact is more difficult to grasp than rocket science apparently.There's more to a GPU than just TFlops. PS5 GPU has a lot higher pixel fillrate and rasterization throughput than XSX GPU.
Yes, PS5 GPU is more powerful in some aspects.
People said the same in the 360 era remember when most of the masses only had TV's that could handle 640X480P.Sucks that the majority of folk are gonna have to endure the lag.
Sure because the majority of gamers are here on this forum right? I don´t have a VRR display or even a 120hz. My tv is 60hz without VRR. Here we are enthusiast sure here we can imagine a lot of people have TV that support VRR but those people here who don´t have a TV with VRR support add them to number of people outside of this forum who doesn't have a VRR display. So what will be the majority?
Not experiencing Lag on my TV, VRR helps but it isn't bad, I've experienced the exact same with the PS5 version.Sucks that the majority of folk are gonna have to endure the lag.
same here. I laughed at Panello's mindless statement.Laughing at Panello's idiotic hot take, not your post.
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These games are designed for 10 year old tablet CPUs. The Zen 2 CPUs are asleep while running them.Ahhh yea good times. I remember when PS5 high dynamic clock means the CPU and GPU would contend for power and make it downclock. Yet here we are. Lol
Xbox hasn't won all the head to heads at all.Lol, Xbox has been winning all the head to heads lately, now you get one game and it's suddenly the unparalleled king?
Xbox has shown that it can handle higher resolutions than PS5 while maintaining a consistent framerate for most games, but of course there will be some exceptions, that's all the metric you need to determine hardware performance, it has been done this way for PC GPUs for decades.
Once we move to next-gen only, the gap will widen.
It's just giving average fps for some amount of time, so it shows as higher than that dip.Xbox graphs are noticeably lower in that frame. Either the frame graph is bugging or DF is skewing the results.
Considering almost nobody has a VRR display, and most people have Ps5s, it’s great that it performs so well.
Edit: Greez Ricky, you’re so easily triggered. Grow the fuck up you child.
For someone to be so deluded that they actually believe that is the scariest (& saddest) part.
1 fps is a win but some games are 1080p on ps5 and we saw other games that Xbox can achieve more res...but 1 fps is a win instead of 1440 vs 2160?Still doesn’t change the internal performance, which still goes to PS5.
False. I have a c9 (I wouldn’t call that an old tv) and even I can’t use VRR without brightness flickering. Just take the L.The VRR capable console with the easy win again, unless you have an old TV then it's a draw. Also the fanboys celebrating a draw is peak cringe comedy, keep it coming
I've got 2. One of which I bought brand new like 4 or 5 months ago for $700. It's not like they're hard to get or even that expensive.How many people have a VRR TV? I don't and don't know anyone that does. Is it like a 2020 and newer feature? Seems like a great misdirection for those defenders of frame drops.
Taking the L would be having a TV with broken VRR. Don't blame the console manufacturer for LG's problem.False. I have a c9 (I wouldn’t call that an old tv) and even I can’t use VRR without brightness flickering. Just take the L.
False. I have a c9 (I wouldn’t call that an old tv) and even I can’t use VRR without brightness flickering. Just take the L.
1080p on PS5 vs. 2160p on XSX? What next-gen games are those?1 fps is a win but some games are 1080p on ps5 and we saw other games that Xbox can achieve more res...but 1 fps is a win instead of 1440 vs 2160?
What's even worse is those same people desperately trying to downplay VRR. Just because the PS5 doesn't have, they insist that the XBS S/X be analyzed as though it were missing it too. Imaging comparing the pc version, except you can't include the best GPU or CPU, or all sorts of things simply because "the PS5 doesn't have those".I fully understand the desire to debate for entertainment purposes but some of yall are ridiculous acting like one frame is so huge! Lol these multiplats are almost identical...I wonder how many here were around for n64 psx and ps2 xbox now that was a difference
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Reality distortion field detected.1080p on PS5 vs. 2160p on XSX? What next-gen games are those?
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People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard APIs that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we dont know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way were giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference it would be obvious.
I get a ton of hate for saying this but its been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.
Im not saying they havent built a good system Im merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years
Adam Sessler & Albert Penello on the Xbox One (Interview)
He meant graphics. Did you see Infamous:Second Son? I have seen Infamous... it looks next gen, but so does Ryse visually, and to some people even more so than Infamous which looks good, but at no point does anyone feel like Infamous makes Ryse look a league apart, both are serious eye candy...www.neogaf.com
I’m just making an example of the real big picture. Saying that 1% of the XSX owners having smoother performance because the have a rare tv (or are using an inferior monitor) when 99% of XSX owners have worse performance because their tv doesn’t support VRR well (or at all) is dishonest at best. In reality XSX performs worse. That’s the L I was talking about.Taking the L would be having a TV with broken VRR. Don't blame the console manufacturer for LG's problem.