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[Impeccable]

There has been at the start of this topic

That's all I am going to say regarding this, since it only detracts from the topic itself.

There was like one dude who said it. I think universally, even with all the Xbox One hate people are impressed with Ryse's graphics. It's the actual game they have an issue with because it looks bland and simple.

This has the opposite problem - it looks like a late generation 360 game but will be held up by gameplay.

 

[TheContact]

That's extremely disappointing. DR3 is the best launch title for the XBO

 

[TheKayle]

It would take very very severe technical issues to get a fan not to buy something on their account. This is a low bar, no?

This result is embarrassing honestly. I won't not buy a game because the framerate sucks but this is really unacceptable this gen. The hardware is powerful enough to give me a standard 30 fps (I hope). If it needed more time in the oven they should have delayed it.

you are right....in fact ppl should stop to buy low optimized games........gamers with low bars are a BIG part of the problem too...(and this work also for the gpu choice that ms did for the xb1)

 

[staticneuron]

The game is a launch title that was obviously developed for the 360 before being ported to the XBO. Expectations for graphics have to be kept minimum. The game looks to be pure fun and nothing else.

Well

Jones has clarified his earlier comments in a statement to OXM - apparently, Dead Rising 3 was never formally prototyped on Xbox 360. "The goals we set ourselves for Dead Rising 3 were just not possible on the current systems. We knew it would have to be a next-gen game and Microsoft was supportive of the idea."

Listen I know that the g......

The Dead Rising franchise has an history of poor framerate, at this point, the fanbase will be used to it.

...........

nevermind.

 

[Dictator93]

I know

Can't think of anything else to buy on Xbone though.

I have played anumber of X1 games and can assure you that even though KI is 720p and 60fps, it is still a good game (a great one even). 60FPS is essential to that though. If it were any less I would fully discredit it.

This game's peformance and resolution is unnacceptable and gets in the way of the gameplay.

 

[alr1ght]

Has DF ever used this language before: "Our captures show the game upscaled to 1080p"?

 

[Nightengale]

Have they reviewed an old build? A few days ago Capcom boasted that they were locked at 30fps. I planned to buy this but no way, I'm voting with my wallet here, no more sub 30fps, definitely not if they're lowering the resolution too. They're aiming too high. Scale it back to the level the hardware is capable of.

Just like how CoD and BF4 are 60fps, amirite?

Honestly, I take dev claims of 'locked 30/60fps' with a grain of salt. Proof is in the pudding, not their words. Why the heck would they admit their game are under-performing in reality?

The only dev I've seen so far who's come out to admit that their game will not be constant 60fps was Guerilla with Shadowfall, and we saw what kind of stupid shitstorm brew up just because he was honest.

 

[mrklaw]

Game performs so badly vs other titles shown this has got to be more down to the game than the console.

I mean I'm definitely in the PS4 is more powerful camp but this is simply a rushed launch game that I presume started life heading for current gen by the look of it that gives no idea of XB1 capabilities.

Definitely a disappointment though that an early game should look this bad. They should have given it more time a'la Driveclub rather than rushing for launch - at least IMHO.

agreed. And MS have enough first party releases that they could afford to delay - especially after Driveclub slipped.

Maybe MS just want it done with? Maybe the move from 360 to One means they can't easily fix all the problems?

 

[Glorified G]

With all its rough edges, Dead Rising 3's intended impact as a next-gen title is clearly dulled, but there's enough here to show early Xbox One adopters a side of the zombie-slaying experience that couldn't be achieved on current-gen hardware.

The sad part is that I've seen people try to use this game as as one of the reasons to buy an xbox one. 720p, 20fps with texture issues. How can anyone pay $499 to play this and wonder the whole time how little difference this would preform on 2005 hardware they already own.

 

[hooijdonk17]

What is astounding is that this is what they got after Microsoft apparently pulled this game out of whatever development hell it was in..

So, after all the first party effort that went into it...

Well, it still looks like shit.

 

[Thrakier]

Ememy counts are very CPU intentsive so it would probably run worse on the PS4.

Im going to be honest. Dead rising should be a franchise that leads on PC and gets ported to consoles. Its always been too ambitious for its own good on that front.

Wha..wha...I don't even...unbelievable. Are you kidding me?

 

[andromeduck]

Damn these annoying anti-MS people here are really annoying and sad. Yes this game looks like crap in screenshots and maybe also while playing (The vids I saw looked better than these screenshots though, so I don't think screenshots do it justice) and that the fps still drops below 30fps is terrible.

But please don't be so sad to say that the Xbox One can't do jack shit and that Ryse looks like crap. That is just sad and does not contribute at all to this topic. Every single Xbox related topic is getting boring to read due to people making the same 'jokes' over and over and and not contributing anything to topics and it destroys Gaf imo. Wish moderation was more strict in these (Xbox) topics also.

DR3 really shows that it started as an xbox 360 game and that it is a release game which clearly needed more optimization. I guess MS really needs this to be a launch title, otherwise I doubt it would be released with such apparent issues, though framerate has never been Dead Risings strong point. The game always looked like fun to me though, so I'm sure I'll pick it up next year and I am curious to see what other reviewers have to say about this game.

boo hoo hoo

if this was rebased from xbox 360 and still fails to achieve 720p 30fps then the XB1 is DOA

 

[scitek]

I remember when games used to be about fun - not how many pixels or FPS any particular title can push around the screen.

25fps or 30fps - still looks like a lot of fun to me!

I remember a time when people entered a thread because they read the title and knew what the topic was about. Seems like such a long time ago.

 

[R3TRO]

My phone is dying but this thread is so good.

 

[mugoldeneagle03]

The real question I have is what if this were still a 360 only game at the same specs. How would it review?

 

[hwy_61]

You don't mean tech-wise right?

I cannot imagine how grueling it is to make a game. I mean everything. So when the shit doesn't work the way you want it to, and you've run out of time, it must be a bummer if you're on said game.

 

[Huggers]

They should have done what was best and delayed this. Frequent 20fps dips are unacceptable imo not to mention the resolution and the texture pop in. Short sighted of them not to give this more time in the oven

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Think some posters are starting to lose their temper with this place. These types of articles are not helping. Poor show Capcom

 

[eso76]

People are comparing to the best of current gen, not the worst, or merely average. Eg, you compare the visuals with something like The Last of Us, Uncharted, Halo 4 etc, not Dead Rising 2 or Dynasty Warriors. Given that the hardware is 3x more powerful, and there's considerably more ram etc, the idea is that even without proper optimisations and being a launch title, the graphics should still at least be better than the best of current gen, just on a brute force, raw performance basis.

I know that people are that stupid.
There's a reason why Dead Rising 2 doesn't look like The Last of us and it's the same reason why DR3 should be compared to past DR games, not GOW3 or TLOU.

If people can't see how this IS much better than the best of current gen, on a brute force raw performance basis, then they should probably avoid technical discussions, because it's clear they have no clue what they are talking about.

 

[Chance Hale]

The real question I have is what if this were still a 360 only game at the same specs. How would it review?

1/10 because it would run at 500P, 5 FPS

 

[TheKayle]

Your a bit late, BF4 is 900p.

Either way the real point is that the significantly more expensive machine is significantly weaker than the significantly cheaper, more powerful machine.

The fact that DR3 runs at 720p, has graphical issues and an awful framerate on a 500 dollar machine is the real story.

yeah is a problem of the developer and if i was MS tomorrow morning i would call them and say "WTF IS THIS 16FPS STORY!??!"...

i was talking about exclusives that will run at less than 1080p ....(that im sure before or later will arrive...)

the machine are differents one give big margin on graphci performance...and clearly have the edge...
the other have more media capabilities..and other stuff that could make the difference....
but ...the x360 could do 720 an 30fps......this is only a problem of not optimizing the work.........bad developers produce always bad games..with this i dont mean that game will not be fun......but clearly isnt a goty under millions of aspects

 

[Batigol]

Man... that is one rough looking game

 

[civilstrife]

Xbone is going to be slayed by midgen multiplats isn't it?

 

[Sanke__]

It's what I expected.

You expected it to not even hit 30 fps?
Because i didnt. I thought 720p 30fps was like the absolute minimum.

 

[BigTnaples]

Holy shit.


Was debating getting this over Ryse, but fuck that noise.


All I can say is Halo 5 better blow my mother fucking mind or this will be my biggest gaming purchase disappointment since the Wii.

 

[Kydd BlaZe]

Some of the Youtube comments under DFs video are pretty hilarious:




Oh, and DF forgot to put the Framrate analysis overlay thing in the second video, so most people won't even notic anything anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKGmZLEEXWs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJ8yqPspis

Resolution...framerate...blah blah blah...

Game still looks crazy as shit with all of the insane weapons and vehicles you can build and just go to town on a ridiculous amount of onscreen zombies. Yes the game chugs from time to time, mostly because of the sheer amount of character models onscreen, and yes the game sure as shit isn't blowing anyone away visually, but none of that shit matters to me. Dead Rising 3 scratches that open world, co-op, zombie killing itch that I can't get on the PS4 or Wii U, and performance issues aside it still looks like loads of fun.

Still day one...

 

[VariantX]

Sounds like they either needed to delay the game or have less zombies/effects and what not. Was hoping it would be at least a few years out before wed have games with framerate problems again, but its already happening out of the gate.

 

[Mr Moose]

sure..we should blame them hard....
and if i was a "boss" there...lots of head would be cutted....

Yeah, lets blame those lazy devs! Getting 720p and less than 30FPS, lets blame them for CoD Ghosts, too while we're at it! with their 720p game (oh wait it's what on PS4?), lets blame DICE for 720p on BF4 (again, only on one of the consoles, guess which?).
Damn those lazy devs!

 

[Gbraga]

The feel of 30fps

 

[rdrr gnr]

Holy shit.


Was debating getting this over Ryse, but fuck that noise.


All I can say is Halo 5 better blow my mother fucking mind or this will be my biggest gaming purchase disappointment since the Wii.

60FPS

Spoiler

720p

 

[Radec]

you guys seriously need to get your eyes checked.

this is the DR2 video posted earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4wLgdmzHLM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m20s

some pics from DR and DR2.

This is what a current gen DR looks like and that's not taking into account the larger area with no load times, unified lighting etc.

For a game like DR, a sandbox where the # of zombies onscreen can vary greatly, and the havoc caused by your weapons and vehicles cannot be kept under control by the developers, framerate dips are always expected.

Either you have a game that barely uses the GPU in normal situations, so that you have enough spare power to handle more crowded moments, or you always push the console and accept the fact that framerate will drop when you have a lot is going on.

From all the recent videos we've seen , performances are just fine and they were until digital foundry put a number onscreen.

yeah, no.

The game can easily be made on 360/PS3/WiiU at that resolution and framerate.

GTA:V even looks better in most areas than these:

Direct frame buffer captures...

 

[hwy_61]

The feel of 30fps

You can't even say that.

 

[Tobor]

The real question I have is what if this were still a 360 only game at the same specs. How would it review?

We all expect 720p sub 30fps on 7 year old hardware.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

Direct frame buffer captures...

yuck!!

 

[TheKayle]

But given more power they could have easily reached 30FPS no doubt.

lol well given an hal 9000 they could reach also 1080 120fps maybe..

whta this mean?

already console are freakin close machine.....developers need to improve their skills...just this

 

[vpance]

Sharpen again? Looks like this confirms it's built into Bone's upscaler. That deserves a thread I think.

 

[Bradf50]

Some of the best games of this gen have had framerate issues, the amount of gameplay in the game is what will count for the people who buy this game.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Is this guy serious?!?!

Please...cary on. It's giving me so many laughs.

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Wow... I thought that the frame rate issues were solved

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

G-g-g-g-gasp, Digital Foundry being negative about Xbone? Truly a turnup for the books.

Didn't you see the PS4 Review Event thread? SCE's marketing budget just got approved....

 

[Kosma]

Someone at MS is now getting spanked for moneyhatting this one.

 

[Hex]

im waiting to see the first not 1080p title for the ps4..how many crow ppl will eat....

you know better than me that isnt a problem of hw here...

ppl are just enjoying the moment to put shit on xb1 as always

Nobody will eat any crow.
Nobody is promising every game will be 1080p or 60fps on the PS4, so I think you are getting your facts wrong.
If you can not admit that these outcomes on these games that you and others have been waiting for, especially after the previews and stories you have been told have been disappointing as an unbiased gamer, I do not know what to say.

 

[frayne182]

I didn't plan on buying this game right away anyways. I'll wait to hear what the reviews say about it. This game will be a $30 or less type game for me. Hopefully they can sort their issues out.

 

[Dictator93]

lol well given an hal 9000 they could reach also 1080 120fps maybe..

whta this mean?

already console are freakin close machine.....developers need to improve their skills...just this

You cannot squeeze water out of rocks brother.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

Always nice to see a little bit of rationality in the midst of hysteria

Majority of the fanbase are not going to look at DR3 and think "meh, may as well just play DR2" (especially with the damn time limit).

Not saying the frame drops aren't disappointing, but I don't think they're world ending either.

When people say it looks last gen they aren't comparing it to it's predecessor but a moderately good looking PS360 game. Could you compare the graphics to the last Halo or TLOU?

About the fanbase you better believe they expect the game to look a lot better on new hardware. It may look good enough for them and do enough for them but they expect more if they have to buy a newly made console for it. It's like saying Gran Turismo fans know what they're getting, they don't care about the graphics or the amount of cars on the screen. Ok GT might not match since it's usually a great looking game, but you can use Resident Evil instead.

Any time new hardware is out and bought, people buy games to see what that puppy can do. Think back on the first times you had with each first console the different generations. Expensive console + game + maybe a second controller. You better had picked a good game because maybe you would be stuck with that for a while, and it better show off that spending the money was worth it.

 

[gamerforever]

Last pic looks like a PS2 game, forget about Xbox 360! Embarrassing.

 

[TheKayle]

Yeah, lets blame those lazy devs! Getting 720p and less than 30FPS, lets blame them for CoD Ghosts, too while we're at it! with their 720p game (oh wait it's what on PS4?), lets blame DICE for 720p on BF4 (again, only on one of the consoles, guess which?).
Damn those lazy devs!

wow..cod being blamed for entire gens.....now IW become one of the most skilled devs around...

this and IW...arent best devs ...and we get meh games...last gen..this gen...and maybe next gen (if they will be sitll there)

 

[SweetChill]

The vehicle looks like it was pulled straight out of a mobile game

 

[KidBeta]

lol well given an hal 9000 they could reach also 1080 120fps maybe..

whta this mean?

already console are freakin close machine.....developers need to improve their skills...just this

These developers have been making games for years, sure some of it can be blamed on a immature platform and development tools, but some of the blame is also shared by the hardware.

 

[R3TRO]

Someone at MS is now getting spanked for moneyhatting this one.

What kind of kinky stuff is Microsoft in to....

 

[Hex]

Didn't you see the PS4 Review Event thread? SCE's marketing budget just got approved....

Money can do many things, but it can not change framerate and resolution as much as people might wish that it could lately.