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[BibiMaghoo]

About as insecure as PS4 owners who come into XB1 threads to make fun of the fact that a game isn't 1080p?
Or about as insecure as XB1 owners who come inte PS4 threads to gloat when an exclusive isn't holding up to the hype?

Happens all the time. And I got banned once when I got mad at PC people talking about their PC version in a PS3/360 thread about Skyrim, so apparently this is just something you have to get used to, especially when it's multiplatform and it all becomes some kind of weird competition to be the one with the best version no matter how tiny and unimportant the difference may be. :/

While I completely agree with this view, it's worth pointing out that this thread is specifically about the two consoles, not a face off between all the platforms. People often lament the inclusion of PC in the face offs, but it is there. Here not so much. That being said, if I'd spend a couple G's on a super rig, I'd be more inclined to point out how great it was as well.

 

[omonimo]

Started playing for the first time yesterday on my One and it's really easy to tell the framerate is pretty good but frame pacing isn't. At first it felt quiet bad and actually annoying. It didn't stop me from playing 4 hours straight, though. I just couldn't stop.

I can definitely feel the stutter all the time, the next patch might make the game a whole lot more enjoyable for me. If this was 30fps all the time without frame pacing issues, it would suck me in completely.

At least the Xbox basically never drops below 30 fps, so capping it at 30 should be no problem. I'm really looking forward to this update but I have to say I'm extremely sensitive to this kind of stuff. On my PC it sometimes annoys me when frame rates drop Von 120 to 80 fps

I really doubt xbone has no drops in the same demanding scene seen on ps4, especially when tons of transparencies are on the screen.

 

[psychotron]

Reposting from the other thread. So those 600 wonderful fixes...we already have them, lol.

 

[Chobel]

Reposting from the other thread. So those 600 wonderful fixes...we already have them, lol.

LOLOLOL!!! The next patch is mostly about fixing font size issue.

Dafuq? Does that mean we're not getting that performance improvement?

Bigger font >>> Performance Improvement

 

[Javin98]

Reposting from the other thread. So those 600 wonderful fixes...we already have them, lol.

Dafuq? Does that mean we're not getting that performance improvement?

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

Dafuq? Does that mean we're not getting that performance improvement?

Surely they have to cut settings back to achieve that or other drastic things?

 

[Sticky&Sweet]

Reposting from the other thread. So those 600 wonderful fixes...we already have them, lol.

Oh dear, lol.

 

[Mastperf]

Surely they have to cut settings back to achieve that or other drastic things?

Maybe, but other games like GTA5 received a nice improvement on PS4 without having to lower settings. We might get lucky.

 

[Conduit]

This is not the right place but the Xbone version performed better. Is it that hard to you to say? It is evident in the video and in the text, yet you try to paint a picture of "same" which is not true. But this doesn't belong in this thread at all, I just wanted to know what you meant in the first place and my suspicion was right.

Well, somebody said that XO version is locked, i said it isn't. Why didn't you said the same like i did? Instead you said that i didn't read the article.

If XO version of DA is 99% of the time 30 fps, PS4 is 94%. And it's a really big deal. But whatever.

Reposting from the other thread. So those 600 wonderful fixes...we already have them, lol.

No performance patch?

 

[Kinthalis]

another bullcrap from a pc gamer going into a thread clearly for consoles. how insecure.are these people to come in at these kinds.of thread to talk about their pcs? i mean, really.

Lol, so angry.

 

[Chobel]

Well, somebody said that XO version is locked, i said it isn't. Why didn't you said the same like i did? Instead you said that i didn't read the article.

If XO version of DA is 99% of the time 30 fps, PS4 is 94%. And it's a really big deal. But whatever.

I read the article and I was even backed by the writer of the article, XB1 version is pretty much locked 30fps.
And if we talk about PS4 version, then it dropped frame quite often.

 

[Black Hat]

I read the article and I was even backed by the writer of the article, XB1 version is pretty much locked 30fps.

Who cares. Move on please. Why are we talking about DA:I in a Witcher thread?

 

[Javin98]

Bigger font >>> Performance Improvement

Haven't seen the font size myself, but is it really that bad that people would rather have a patch that fixes font size than performance?

Surely they have to cut settings back to achieve that or other drastic things?

GTA 5 proves that optimization is not always about cutting effects for better performance.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Haven't seen the font size myself, but is it really that bad that people would rather have a patch that fixes font size than performance?


GTA 5 proves that optimization is not always about cutting effects for better performance.

I'm honestly baffled by the font size thing. I'm playing PS4 on a 42", and everything is perfectly readable with the hud in "small" mode.

 

[Javin98]

I'm honestly baffled by the font size thing. I'm playing PS4 on a 42", and everything is perfectly readable with the hud in "small" mode.

Seriously? Then why have others been complaining?

 

[Chobel]

Who cares. Move on please. Why are we talking about DA:I in a Witcher thread?

It started with someone stating TW3 (XB1) having smoother framerate than DA:I (XB1) which is not true at all.

Haven't seen the font size myself, but is it really that bad that people would rather have a patch that fixes font size than performance?

I'm joking.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

Maybe, but other games like GTA5 received a nice improvement on PS4 without having to lower settings. We might get lucky.[/QUOTEI thought it did drop settings tho. That was the complaints I sasaw. Or I'm sure I saw complaints anyway.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Seriously? Then why have others been complaining?

Maybe they're sitting much further away, or have bad eyesight? I'm totally baffled by it after seeing all the complaints.

 

[Javin98]

I thought it did drop settings tho. That was the complaints I sasaw. Or I'm sure I saw complaints anyway.

POM was accidentally removed but was patched back in without any performace penalties.

I'm joking.

Oh, my bad. My joke meter is broken.

 

[Chobel]

I thought it did drop settings tho. That was the complaints I sasaw. Or I'm sure I saw complaints anyway.

It was a bug, and it got fixed very fast.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

POM was accidentally removed but was patched back in without any performace penalties.

Ahhh cheers man. Thought I'd seen something. did gta have actual framerate drops tho? I thought it was just a stutter when driving through the city? Not an actual fps drop. I hope to see improvements in witcher 3 all around. It deserves it. They need to just lock the xbox to 30 as well and then that version will be great too

 

[SmokedMeat]

I'm honestly baffled by the font size thing. I'm playing PS4 on a 42", and everything is perfectly readable with the hud in "small" mode.

It depends on viewing distance. For games like this and Alien Isolation (actually more than that since I've grown older), I can no longer sit back ten feet, on the recliner, but rather have to pull up a chair, and sit a couple feet away to read the text.

 

[Javin98]

Ahhh cheers man. Thought I'd seen something. did gta have actual framerate drops tho? I thought it was just a stutter when driving through the city? Not an actual fps drop. I hope to see improvements in witcher 3 all around. It deserves it. They need to just lock the xbox to 30 as well and then that version will be great too

Not sure about GTA 5, but they were performance issues that got fixed regardless. Hopefully CDP will fix the frame rate issues on the PS4 version, especially in citscenes.

 

[pswii60]

Just given the game a quick spin on PS4.

When the gameplay first begins, I go out on to the balcony to look outside... and there is this ludicrous amount of motion blur that kicks in as you look around, which isn't present when you are inside. Is this what all outdoor gameplay is like? It's seemingly some interpolation trick trying to mask the fact that the framerate would otherwise be abysmal.

I hope not because I will not find that tolerable in the slightest if all outdoor areas are like this in the game. May even push me in to finally getting a gaming PC if this is any indication of how the generation is going to continue.

 

[Synless]

Seriously? Then why have others been complaining?

Don't know, I can read it just fine too. I'm only about 5.5ft back from my tv though.

 

[cgcg]

Looks like X1 version has worse AF

Worse AA

Looking much blurrier or is that just bad AF?

 

[Kezen]

Er...8xAF is not poor, especially on console where this gen, actually having AF is something completely new to console gamers.

That's not right.

Plenty of 360/PS3 games feature AF, 4x or more.

 

[dragonelite]

Looks like X1 version has worse AF

Lower resolution..?

 

[cakely]

I got to see this on the PS4 last night. A friend was walking through some sort of village doing the "twisted firestarter" (groan) quest.

The first thing that struck me was this weird ... I don't know, fish-eye view effect? I'm not crazy about it, is there a way to turn that down or to lessen it? Is it just me?

Also, the default UI is hilariously cluttered, but there were a ton of options to turn elements of that off, so I'll probably do that.

I'm still going to get it at some point, but my initial impressions weren't all that great, at least visually.

 

[driver116]

Wouldn't toning down the the OTT tree sway somewhat improve the frame rate?

 

[Jessie.Bristol]

Looks like X1 version has worse AF

Worse AA

Looking much blurrier or is that just bad AF?

Well, DF did note the Day 1 Patch made the Xbox One version have 4xAF in the tutorial section whereas it goes back to normal after that:

A few other changes affect aspects of The Witcher 3's visuals. Texture filtering is downgraded during the early tutorial sequence - dropping to something that looks akin to 4x anisotropic filtering. With no patch installed, textures across the castle pathways are simply clearer at tight camera angles. However, we went to great lengths to test this after the tutorial section, and the difference disappears entirely between patch and unpatched versions. Outside in the White Orchard area, both use an absolutely identical form of filtering across the ground, and we suspect this setting may scale up and down based on the area.

 

[nib95]

Looks like X1 version has worse AF

Worse AA

Looking much blurrier or is that just bad AF?

The resolution differences are quite apparent too. Also seems to be slightly different levels of aliasing, notably on that bannister.

 

[JoduanER2]

I think ill wait for a patch, cant stand the constant framedrops (PS4)

 

[Inuhanyou]

That's not right.

Plenty of 360/PS3 games feature AF, 4x or more.

You have a list?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Well, DF did note the Day 1 Patch made the Xbox One version have 4xAF in the tutorial section whereas it goes back to normal after that:

So weird they they lowered it just for the tutorial.

 

[Snuggles]

I'm honestly baffled by the font size thing. I'm playing PS4 on a 42", and everything is perfectly readable with the hud in "small" mode.

This might also baffle you, but televisions come in sizes smaller than 42". By the amount of people complaining about the text size, it seems pretty clear that it's an issue even if you personally are not affected.

 

[Kezen]

You have a list?

Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, Metro Last Light, off the top of my head.
Many more certainly, I couldn't list them all.

Trilinear + anisotropic was certainly a thing last gen on consoles, but 16xAF was very rare.

 

[Conduit]

I'm pretty sure Eurogamer won't do any face-off until 1.03 patch.

 

[omonimo]

I think ill wait for a patch, cant stand the constant framedrops (PS4)

Constant frame drops it's a bit too much. But under the rain some area has really horrible fps issue. They are not normal imo. Hope they fix it first or later because seems just bad optimization to me.

 

[cgcg]

Well, DF did note the Day 1 Patch made the Xbox One version have 4xAF in the tutorial section whereas it goes back to normal after that:

but that screenshot is not from the tutorial area, so it could be that section is even worse.

 

[thelastword]

I was like "Thank god I bought this game for PC".

*Goes check the frame rate*

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At least you're being honest, some people will want to tell you that these consoles are laptop-cpu'd garbage and any entry level PC will outperform them. Queue...any 750ti discussion....which abounds.

While I completely agree with this view, it's worth pointing out that this thread is specifically about the two consoles, not a face off between all the platforms. People often lament the inclusion of PC in the face offs, but it is there. Here not so much. That being said, if I'd spend a couple G's on a super rig, I'd be more inclined to point out how great it was as well.

If I spent a couple of G's on a Rig, I'd want that all my games run at 1440p 60fps as a baseline on ultra settings. Afterall, I've spent at minimum 5 times the cost of a console, there won't be any need to echo that I'm enjoying better resolutions and framerates because I paid for that privilege and I think by now everybody understands that.

I would simply understand, that not all persons are willing to pay for such privileges as is evident by the massive popularity of consoles. It also looks like these console guys are enjoying their games afterall since most sales are from there as well, even CD project confirmed just as much. So I'm not sure they're looking for sermons of "the pastures are greener at every turn".

Now, if we're talking two closed boxes that released at about the same time competing for the same market then that makes sense, and I'm sure most persons are interested in the XO vs PS4 analysis as opposed to a "whatever parts I buy box", it's evident even now, as people are comparing the AF and AA between the consoles.

 

[Deadbeat]

At least you're being honest, some people will want to tell you that these consoles are laptop-cpu'd garbage and any entry level PC will outperform them. Queue...any 750ti discussion....which abounds.

and then the "you gotta pay a couple grand and upgrade every few months" argument follows right after.

 

[Skyzard]

TW3 wrecks high-end pcs. You have people with Titan X turning off hairworks to get more performance at 1440p +. 780ti is basically capped to 30/38 (for no drops/stuttering at all) at 1440p/hairworks off/high foliage.

 

[ioriyagami]

Haven't seen the font size myself, but is it really that bad that people would rather have a patch that fixes font size than performance?

I want both, but if I had to choose which is the bigger issue for me, it would be font size. I am not a human framerate counter like some people here, and the drops are not as frequent or as bad to subtract from my gaming experience. Squinting to read 80% of the text of the game, however, does.

 

[Javin98]

Don't know, I can read it just fine too. I'm only about 5.5ft back from my tv though.

I want both, but if I had to choose which is the bigger issue for me, it would be font size. I am not a human framerate counter like some people here, and the drops are not as frequent or as bad to subtract from my gaming experience. Squinting to read 80% of the text of the game, however, does.

On a more serious note, this seems to be due to sitting distance from the TV.

 

[thelastword]

and then the "you gotta pay a couple grand and upgrade every few months" argument follows right after.

All I know, is that if I am buying a gaming PC, I'm not buying an entry level PC. Too many people are fooled by such talk and actually do have to upgrade eventually to keep up with more advanced games.

TW3 wrecks high-end pcs. You have people with Titan X turning off hairworks to get more performance at 1440p +. 780ti is basically capped to 30/38 (for no drops/stuttering at all) at 1440p/hairworks off/high foliage.

Hey, So you're saying that I would pay 2k+ for a PC and still turn off all these features which are touted as huge differentiators between PC and consoles? Notwithstanding, I can't even get 60fps locked with all my sliders to the right? That's kinda bizarre, I was led to believe otherwise.

Browsing the PC performance thread on the Witcher 3, it seems that crashes and stuttering are quite a fixture no matter what your rig. I don't think I'd come to terms with this if I had spent 2k+, the worse offender would be no 60fps on Ultra settings though, afterall, the PC Ultra to PS4 comparison video shows no huge divide in visuals.

 

[RedAssedApe]

I want both, but if I had to choose which is the bigger issue for me, it would be font size. I am not a human framerate counter like some people here, and the drops are not as frequent or as bad to subtract from my gaming experience. Squinting to read 80% of the text of the game, however, does.

9 years later (i.e. Dead Rising small text complaints) lol

I'm in the same boat. Font size > performance issues in my book.

I have a 50" tv and I probably sit around 6 feet away depending on how i'm sitting on my couch. Its not unreadable but font that small is annoying and straining on the eyes. Started sitting on the floor closer to the tv whenever I wanted to read some notes or books I picked up

 

[thelastword]

According to this video, it seems that the PS4 version has more pronounced effects than the Xbone version, especially early on in the video where there's a huge blast of dust on the PC/PS4 and it's almost not apparent on the xbone version. AF of course seems to be less on the XBO and the water reflections and even it's physics seem to be less pronounced on the Xbone as well. I'm really waiting to hear what Nxgamer discovers. This video was made after the day one patch of course.

 

[Ishida]

I'd question how much the devs could possibly do to improve the framerate for consoles without sacrificing image quality.... lets be realistic these consoles aren't high end machines, they're low range PCs running a brand new high-end game. To even get 30fps would be an achievement for a game of this scale....

Games are going to need to scale back as the generation goes on otherwise PS4/Xbone versions are going to look like a slide-show or texture-less.


I'm running on PC 1080p/60fps High with hairworks off, what does hairworks do differently?

Mmmh... I've seen better trolling in my younger days. I'd say 6/10.

 

[Skyzard]

All I know, is that if I am buying a gaming PC, I'm not buying an entry level PC. Too many people are fooled by such talk and actually do have to upgrade eventually to keep up with more advanced games.


Hey, So you're saying that I would pay 2k+ for a PC and still turn off all these features which are touted as huge differentiators between PC and consoles? Notwithstanding, I can't even get 60fps locked with all my sliders to the right? That's kinda bizarre, I was led to believe otherwise.

Browsing the PC performance thread on the Witcher 3, it seems that crashes and stuttering are quite a fixture no matter what your rig. I don't think I'd come to terms with this if I had spent 2k+, the worse offender would be no 60fps on Ultra settings though, afterall, the PC Ultra to PS4 comparison video shows no huge divide in visuals.

It's optimized for what consoles can do.
That video...doesn't really do PC ultra justice though.
And that framerate lock is for no drops at all, perfectly smooth on a higher resolution...which makes a big difference with character clarity and fixing the vegetation that looks mushy and hard to distinguish.