GhostTrick
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There's something I dont get... why not allow people to choose VSync or not ?
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Digital Foundry - Witcher 3 performance analysis XO/PS4
- Thread starter Lifejumper
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well have you considered that perhaps the video the posted is just a short one to highlight the issues.
I have myself witnessed long stretches of 20 fps on ps4. During night and fighting with fire effects effects will never go over 25. Also fighting in swamps with several enemies. Fighting in rain/fog - the same.
It's quite possible that people don't see it. Not everyone can instantly distinguish between 30/60 and 60/120+.
Aceofspades
Banned
Giving the scope of the game and the detailed environment, I'm really pleased with game performance on PS4. My major grips of the game is not technical but rather how combat is poorly excuted at least compared to Bloodborne, but that another discussion for another thread.
There's only two reasons I can see for anyone that claims that.
Either a) they aren't sensitive to framerate drops, and are probably the type of person that couldn't tell the difference between 30 and 60fps let alone noticing the difference between 30 and 25fps.
b) They are Sony Defense Force
No one has a magical PS4, the game itself suffers from rate rate drops, that's a FACT
dragonfart28
Banned
They should give people the option to change the graphics settings.
I have no idea why they still don't allow this on consoles.
I have no idea why they still don't allow this on consoles.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Some people aren't as susceptible to frame drops as others. It's one of those things where people can be living perfectly fine but once they know what a frame drop is it's the worst thing in the world.
flipswitch
Member
My guess would be they haven't discovered the parts of the game where the framerate drops. I'm still in white orchard and the framerate has been fine so far.
Aceofspades
Banned
I don't have a PC but I have a Xbox One and PS4 but I'm still not 100% sure what version to go for (when I have the cash to spare).
Is there any chance/news of CD Project Red locking the frame rate on the Xbox One to 30 frames per second?
Also does anyone think if they do lock it down to 30 frames per second the dynamic resolution might be higher in some areas?
Is there any chance/news of CD Project Red locking the frame rate on the Xbox One to 30 frames per second?
Also does anyone think if they do lock it down to 30 frames per second the dynamic resolution might be higher in some areas?
Aceofspades
Banned
Spot on.
Some of the drops are 1-2 frames. Those are hardly noticeable (for everyone) with a naked eye.
Dictator93
Member
It would ruin the artistic vision.
Arguments that they are "practically imperciptible" even though they obviously are verz visible (especially given how Vsync works), seem like bad arguments unfit for a DF thread.
flipswitch
Member
I'm suprised the ps4 ver has better AF. Wasn't expecting that.
Just had a quick read but didn't find any mention of AF.
Just had a quick read but didn't find any mention of AF.
AnthonypUK
Member
But theres no clear choice apparantly...
hydrophilic attack
Member
Seriously? There is no way theyre giving up a 30%+ pixel advantage to Sony
Dictator93
Member
It actually doesn't look like 8x in a lot of instances. Is probably variable per surface or scene giiven what this gen has shown so far.
Oppo
Member
Higher frame-rate
Not "better" frame-rate in all cases due to variability
If I had to guess I'd say there's an alpha bug or something like that on Ps4 that is limiting to effective 20 FPS in specific moments, I would bet folding money that will get patched and it will end up 28-30 in most situations.
Haven't got the game yet, thought I'd wait a bit. I know! Crazy right
Hydrargyrus
Member
Damn!, Sony lying again
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Game is great but I had less problems with Unity then this, bugs and gitches everywhere and the framerate does drop, hell when I first booted it up I couldn't even start the damn game because it wasn't loading.
Quick Google search gave me nothing but praises for the game and how it was delayed to prevent it being another ACU, yet it's worse lol.
For me anyway.
Quick Google search gave me nothing but praises for the game and how it was delayed to prevent it being another ACU, yet it's worse lol.
For me anyway.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Vita means 'Truth'.
flipswitch
Member
Huh? I didn't see a better performance (ie. higher fps) in cutscenes in the video.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
I must be crazy because I've only noticed stutter once on PS4 during a cut scene....and that was it.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Well this just gives me more time to finish two gracefully and then to wait for the patch.
Yep, im also still in white orchard and I agree.
I noticed that there are small drops during gameplay (it always felt like it was around 28-30fps, cutscenes are another case..), but those were fine to me.
But it seems like it is getting worse in other places.
GhostTrick
Banned
Anyway, seems to perform fine so far, even though, clipping seems to be strong especially at 1:40 on the video... building appearing disappearing ?
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
ruh-roh!
I'm not saying it's witches, but it's ...
witches
ISee
Member
I really wonder what CDPR reasoning is behind not locking the framerate on xone? And why did they lock it on one console and not the other?
Vsync costs some performance, but not enough for the xone version to drop constantly below 30... I think.
Their decision making doesn't make sense to me.
Vsync costs some performance, but not enough for the xone version to drop constantly below 30... I think.
Their decision making doesn't make sense to me.
Sticky&Sweet
Banned
Having second thoughts about the PS4 version, might wait until I buy an Xbox One and get the Witcher 3 bundle.
Dictator93
Member
Not currently at a computer to compar with, but a number of shots do not look like 8x AF, while others look obviously higher than 4x.
I can make a comparison later.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Why? It's still the better version
ArkhamFantasy
Member
If the game isnt consistently running at 30 FPS then they need to lower the resolution.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
That's certainly an appropriate response.
Just like Rockstar did for GTAV? I'll bet the PS4 problems are streaming issues (as usual) and vsync peculiarities in the cut scenes dropping it to 20fps- both easily fixable without a resolution drop (which probably wouldn't solve anything in this case anyway).
Sticky&Sweet
Banned
TechMaster360
Banned
Someone pointed out some texture issues on the PS4 in DF comments section, maybe a streaming issue compared to the XB1 - don't know if it happens on both systems though in different places
I think it's the same people who keeps saying 30 fps is "smooth"
Better.?.. higher framerate does not equal better framerate in this game..
Why didn't they just turn the graphics down a notch on things like shadows and particle effects to hold 30fps?
Maybe it's because some people say that playing at 24fps is ok. Unfortunate for the console market as fps expectations are so divided.
The quicker people realise that both versions are unplayable the better for your consoles future.
Maybe it's because some people say that playing at 24fps is ok. Unfortunate for the console market as fps expectations are so divided.
The quicker people realise that both versions are unplayable the better for your consoles future.
Disregard the version with a higher resolution and less overall stuttering, but with rare drops, for the version with a lower resolution and constant stuttering….because?….
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I think in this case I would prefer the the version with a capped frame rate. I haven't watched the video, but the PS4 version doesn't drop too much, does it? Are drops below 26 often? Also, is it confirmed that the PS4 version has 8x AF? This would be the first time the PS4 version of the game has better AF if so, unless there are others I'm forgetting.
Before these new consoles were released some people were claiming 1080p and 60fps would be standard.
I always knew that the push would be for eye candy first and framerate would be secondary.
I wish 60fps would be a standard and devs would just get the graphics as good as they could while maintaining the framerate.
For me personally framerate is the most important thing in a game.