Theres been 60fps on ps1, ps2 & ps3 and there will be on ps4. Its a dev choice, you honestly believe its based on hardware if it can run 60fps?
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Theres been 60fps on ps1, ps2 & ps3 and there will be on ps4. Its a dev choice, you honestly believe its based on hardware if it can run 60fps?
Just go to Digital Foundry if you want to read his stuff, which I like as well. Then you won't have to suffer the extreme MS fanboyism over at B3D forums.
But isn't Leadbetter an extreme MS fanboy? That's what GAF has been telling me these past 5 years.
Haha that was only when the 360 was winning the majority of the face offs. Now that things are on much more even ground, Ledbetter is now fair and balanced. Don't you know how the mind of a fanboy works.
No. I've been reading his articles all gen and most games just plain run better on 360. No bias there.
Only time I've seen something fanboyish from Rich was his comments on the FF13 360 version (The 360 could have been so much better, lazy devs!) compared to what he says when the PS3 version didn't look/run as good. However, the commentary can be skipped and he doesn't spread misinformation about what game runs/looks better on which system. I just look at the facts he reports and not which tradeoffs he would accept, because that's an individual opinion.
Kun Aguero
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Blacklight retribution devs are aiming for 60 fps, one of the devs said at E3 that they were getting a "smoking frame-rate".
Nice. Looking forward to Blacklight.
But yea c'mon that game looks like a PS3 game with good IQ.
Reckless Onion
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So? gameplay matters, not graphics.
ChronotriggerJM
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If anything I'd imagine the jump to new architecture would be hardest for the first party studios seeing as how they've never targeted the pc as a platform. All their engines need retooling. I'm already impressed with the visuals for a box that's not even out yet, and everyone knows the insane gap in quality between launch and closing. If some games are already 1080 and 60fps, I have no worries about this generation, I'm almost positive it will be the norm.
Kazuma Kiryu
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CONSOLE WARS!
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Guys look! We made it! The Console War!
qa_engineer
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Warframe is going to be running at 60fps (skip to 1:50 for the tech tidbit). I definitely want to play this on a console vs. pc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_QG1RR41U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_QG1RR41U8
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
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Whoever wins we all LOLS.
Good to hear. The framerate looked really choppy in the E3 footage so I guess it was just early.
qa_engineer
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Yeah dude. Watch the video, apparently they got the game up and running in 3 months in time for e3. Thats ridiculous. If this was the PS3 they would have shown PC footage and said "Coming Soon."
qa_engineer
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It's seriously impressive how even small devs can get stuff up and running so quickly on PS4, especially when final devkits aren't even out yet. I can't imagine what a team like ND will be able to do if they have a 3.5 year dev cycle on PS4 like they did on TLoU.
It is a art!
That's why the J-Developers are going to make a MONSTEROUS comeback on PS4. The big guys can code to the bone truly, and the smaller devs will have so many middle ware options.
Synless
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Is this real?
qa_engineer
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Never been a fan of jrpgs and other Japanesecentric games, but if they are able to put out titles like they (japanese game companies) did during the ps2 era then its game over for the competitors.
I've been hoping for this as well. As much as I love a lot of Western output right now I want Japan's creativity and innovation to make a comeback and start influencing the industry again. TGS will be interesting this year. I wonder if Sony will have aligned themselves with a lot of Japanese teams on the "Japanese development resurgence" line.
Dat "PC like" x86 architecture.
Can't wait to see what a Persona game will look like on this kind of hardware. Atlus, please deliver
Would love that.
Oh and about the framerate console war, it's pretty ridiculous. There is no magic. Games on PS4 or One that runs at 60 fps right now are just pushing less things on screen.
Great to hear even though I expected this.
ND are going to release a PS4 game holiday 2014. Bank on it.
Oh, I'm sure. I could see both of their teams adopting a three year cycle.
Verendus said that Sony have two jrpg projects one of wich is a huge project. He was right about FF 15 and eluded to kh3 he was wrong about them being exclusive though.
Yeah,I'm expecting a trailer for the next Uncharted at this year's VGAs.
Weren't these games ran off of earlier PS4 dev kits when PS4 had only 4 GB's of GDDR5 RAM at the time?
I wonder if they'll up the graphics, etc. some more now that PS4 is confirmed to be using 8 GB's of GDDR5.
I hope this happens in which we'll see a return of the PS1/PS2 era (in which there were a lot of Japanese 3rd party games).
I wonder if they'll up the graphics, etc. some more now that PS4 is confirmed to be using 8 GB's of GDDR5.
I hope this happens in which we'll see a return of the PS1/PS2 era (in which there were a lot of Japanese 3rd party games).
James Sawyer Ford
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Just thinking about this...a Naughty Dog game once ever 1.5 years would be amazing.
Having more system /video ram doesn't automatically improve the frame rate.
Gemüsepizza
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Why three years, why not less? From looking at their release list, they usually don't need so much time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naughty_Dog#List_of_games
I wouldn't be suprised if we see the reveal of a launch game from them at gamescom. Two years seems like plenty of time, and according to Cerny developing for PS4 does not take much time. We also know that they will use their "old" engine for the PS4, which will help, too.
velociraptor
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I honestly think I would prefer more 60FPS games at a 'slightly reduced' visual quality than 30FPS 'high quality' games.
60FPS makes a tremendous difference to a game.
I hate how most games target 30FPS but in reality are 25FPS, which feels horrible. At least by targeting 60FPS any framedrops will feel negligible and will unlikely have any impact on the actual gameplay.
I was actually most impressed with God Of War 3 on the PS3. The entire game ran at about 45FPS, yet it was fast and fluid. Just what you want from a game. On top of that, it is the best looking console title out.
60FPS makes a tremendous difference to a game.
I hate how most games target 30FPS but in reality are 25FPS, which feels horrible. At least by targeting 60FPS any framedrops will feel negligible and will unlikely have any impact on the actual gameplay.
I was actually most impressed with God Of War 3 on the PS3. The entire game ran at about 45FPS, yet it was fast and fluid. Just what you want from a game. On top of that, it is the best looking console title out.
Haha that was only when the 360 was winning the majority of the face offs. Now that things are on much more even ground, Ledbetter is now fair and balanced. Don't you know how the mind of a fanboy works.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious how fickle people are.
Just like claiming B3D is pro-MS.. just because they don't allow mindless shit flinging threads dominating the forums..
I see loads of anti MS and pro MS stuff at B3D, and some nice contributions from devs or people actually in both companies..
This thread is pretty much useless, the only surprising thing for me is that Sony have been alledged to be 6 months ahead of MS in terms of game development and tools, but they seemed not to quite pull it together to show that at E3.
Metalmurphy
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Yeah... that's not the reason.
littlebirdtoldme
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i really hope this generation dont get bogged down with this 60fps bullshit.
60fps is great if it comes without large sacrifice. But if it do. i rather take solid 30. erryday.
60fps is great if it comes without large sacrifice. But if it do. i rather take solid 30. erryday.
hey guys, I really wanna know, does 60fps really matter?
I play my PC games at less than 60fps,,,I'm thinking about 30fps cause I like to max out the eye candy. It all seems smooth and immersive enough for me. (single player of course, I don't play too much MP except bf3)
What is it that 60fps brings that everyone is so obsessed with this gen? seems like all everyone is talking about these days.
I play my PC games at less than 60fps,,,I'm thinking about 30fps cause I like to max out the eye candy. It all seems smooth and immersive enough for me. (single player of course, I don't play too much MP except bf3)
What is it that 60fps brings that everyone is so obsessed with this gen? seems like all everyone is talking about these days.
This is just fucking pathetic...
qa_engineer
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Haha. Just ignore it! I'm actually surprised he hasn't been banned yet.
LMAO. This isn't GameFAQ's you're on, bud.
You do realize that Microsoft didn't use the actual Xbox One hardware to showcase those games & instead used high-end PC's with high-end Nvidia GTX cards to make the games look much prettier & achieve 1080p w/60 FPS, right?
Xbox One games At E3 were running on Windows 7 with Nvidia GTX cards?
The PS4 games that were shown at E3 were ran off of actual PS4 early developer kits when they only had 4 GB's of GDDR5 RAM at the time.
You might check other sources like DF... Forza, Ryse and KI were running on Xbone Devkits.
Always-honest
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This is nonsense.
Should have been a lurker a bit longer and read.