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[cudiye]

this game looks like it belongs in the dirt.

 

[Silent Viper]

Graphically unimpressive. The Series X is in dire need of a visual stunner, because the more visually unimpressive games they show the more the 12TF marketing loses it's luster.

Unfortunately 3rd party devs will not do that and first party games are not ready yet. So, you have to wait and then decide your purchase

 

[Evilms]

This is FUD and incorrect.

Dirt 5 Xbox Series X Hands-On Preview - Feel The Power

Dirt 5 Xbox Series X Hands-On Preview - Feel The Power

press-start.com.au

Quality - full 4k and uncapped frame rate

Performance - Dynamic 4k at locked 60 fps

120 FPS - 1440p lower lod and visuals at 120 fps

Press Start was getting ~60fps in both Quality and Performance.

No, this is reality

DiRT 5 and our first Xbox Series X “enhanced” tests: 120Hz saves the uneven ride [Updated]

A bleeding-edge Xbox Series X feature impresses, but it deserves a prettier game.

arstechnica.com

 

[GHG]

Dirt 5 on XSX :

- 4k mode : 30~60fps (40fps on average).
- Dynamic mode : 1440p~2160p with pop-in. Framerate close to 60fps but not locked.
- 120fps mode : LOD (level of detail) degraded, much less polygons + somes bugs (elements that disappear) at 1080p but sometimes possibly lower.

This is a joke right?

This game looks worse than Forza Horizon 4 and it isn't even open world.

 

[Evilms]

This is a joke right?

This game looks worse than Forza Horizon 4 and it isn't even open world.

unfortunately not.

detailed article here : https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020...s-x-the-120fps-difference-saves-a-rusty-ride/

 

[kretos]

screen tearing

 

[zaitsu]

Imagine making 12TF hardware, and have nothing to prove that your console is better than 10 TF one.

 

[MrFunSocks]

screen tearing

So you didn't watch the video then lol

kratos avatar though so that's shocking.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

No, this is reality

Ok? I literally showed you a review that contradicts your usual FUD (I'm sure if the PS5 preview came out first, you'd also be posting about it too) but here let me paste the relevant parts;

Quality Mode (4k/uncapped)

Playing in 4K, I started things off in Image
Quality mode which seemed to be pushing 4K at an uncapped frame rate. As far as I can tell, the game was hitting 60FPS most of the time, only dropping below when there were more than a handful of cars on-screen or when something major was happening off-track.

Performance Mode (Dynamic 4k/60fps)

Frame Rate mode was an extremely consistent 60FPS without sacrificing visuals

 

[Md Ray]

Credit to @Ozryel

 

[Sony]

Imagine making 12TF hardware, and have nothing to prove that your console is better than 10 TF one.

Easy to imagine. It took Sony between 2-3 years to present PS3 games that were visually as impressive as Xbox 360 flagships.

 

[GHG]

unfortunately not.

detailed article here : https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020...s-x-the-120fps-difference-saves-a-rusty-ride/

That article is scathing.

Looks like codemasters have bitten off more than they can chew with this one.

 

[Stuart360]

unfortunately not.

detailed article here : https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020...s-x-the-120fps-difference-saves-a-rusty-ride/

Damn that sounds rough. Hopefully its not final code they are testing.
I would of thought a locked 4k/60 would of been pretty simple for a cross gen game, a cross gen game that i assume is already 60fps on base consoles.

 

[zaitsu]

Easy to imagine. It took Sony between 2-3 years to present PS3 games that were visually as impressive as Xbox 360 flagships.

Thats why i Was xbox guy during 360 era.

 

[kretos]

So you didn't watch the video then lol

kratos avatar though so that's shocking.

i watched ign video and there is screen tearing

 

[Evilms]

Ok? I literally showed you a review that contradicts your usual FUD (I'm sure if the PS5 preview came out first, you'd also be posting about it too) but here let me paste the relevant parts;

Quality Mode (4k/uncapped)

Playing in 4K, I started things off in Image
Quality mode which seemed to be pushing 4K at an uncapped frame rate. As far as I can tell, the game was hitting 60FPS most of the time, only dropping below when there were more than a handful of cars on-screen or when something major was happening off-track.

Performance Mode (Dynamic 4k/60fps)

Frame Rate mode was an extremely consistent 60FPS without sacrificing visuals

if you don't want to see the truth, stay in your bubble

 

[Riky]

i watched ign video and there is screen tearing

Doesn't he say at the beginning it's due to the capture equipment?

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

if you don't want to see the truth, stay in your bubble

Why would I care, it's not a game I'll be getting. You're the one peddling it's performance as some kind of console war weapon and ignoring evidence to the contrary.

Here's a bonus for you;

Now, this isn't really surprising as obviously, something had to give in order to hit 120FPS, but with the game being a buttery smooth 4K/60 in other modes, I think most people will end up opting for Visual mode.

But muh narrative

 

[Lysandros]

Imagine making 12TF hardware, and have nothing to prove that your console is better than 10 TF one.

Maybe it proves something else; like 10 to 12 TF is simply not the full story.

 

[BigLee74]

Ouch. If its like that on the XSX, it will only be worse on the PS5!

 

[Riky]

It's a cross gen launch game so it was never going to be a showcase for any machine really. Nice to see 120fps though and I'll have to give that a try, I think my TV can handle that just not at 4k.

 

[Evilms]

Why would I care, it's not a game I'll be getting. You're the one peddling it's performance as some kind of console war weapon and ignoring evidence to the contrary.

Here's a bonus for you;

Now, this isn't really surprising as obviously, something had to give in order to hit 120FPS, but with the game being a buttery smooth 4K/60 in other modes, I think most people will end up opting for Visual mode.

But muh narrative

if you have a problem go and complain to "arstechnica.com".

all I do is share their analysis.

 

[zaitsu]

Ouch. If its like that on the XSX, it will only be worse on the PS5!

PS5 players will be good, so many good looking exclusives already on launch.

 

[pasterpl]

Still less pop in than we have seen in gt7 demo, game looks okay-ish, I am sure that it will look great on my tv while moving, but I have got a feeling that forza horizon 4 xbsex enhanced will look and run better

 

[bitbydeath]

Ouch. If its like that on the XSX, it will only be worse on the PS5!

Would it really matter if PS5 comes out on top? You should be buying the console that has your favourite games. Wars are stupid, just play games.

 

[BigLee74]

PS5 players will be good, so many good looking exclusives already on launch.

I was talking about Dirt 5 in particular, but yeah.

 

[DrScissorsMD]

So you think it's normal not to have any footage from a console releasing in a month? There's absolutely no cause for concern? Yes games will run on it at launch no doubt. But this coupled with the rumours that developers are finding it harder to develop on than a PS5 isn't great news.

Source on SX being harder to develop for?? PS5 being easier =/= SX being hard.

 

[BigLee74]

Would it really matter if PS5 comes out on top? You should be buying the console that has your favourite games. Wars are stupid, just play games.

And yet you didn't quote or chastise any of the well known Sony fans that piled into this thread immediately for their say! Gotcha, buddy.

Simply stating facts. This will in all likely run worse on a GPU with less power, because that's the way these things work.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Source on SX being harder to develop for?? PS5 being easier =/= SX being hard.

He didn't say it was hard just harder. Also the source is probably what Digital Foundry has said. From what they have said some developers are struggling with the shift from an SDK to a GDK. While with PlayStation it's practically the same environment as the PS4 so developers are not having any issues there.

 

[Bogey]

Looks fun, I'm interested. Will check it out for sure.

Admittedly though, it doesn't look visually impressive, not even for a current-gen title. Most certainly nothing next gen about it.

 

[Tripolygon]

Not a bad looking cross Gen game.

Load time ~13 seconds from my count.

 

[Zoro7]

Source on SX being harder to develop for?? PS5 being easier =/= SX being hard.

Quick google search will bring up what you're looking for.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

i watched ign video and there is screen tearing

Maybe if you actually paid attention to the video you'd realize its due to their capture equipment which caused tearing on 120fps footage.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

Graphically unimpressive. The Series X is in dire need of a visual stunner, because the more visually unimpressive games they show the more the 12TF marketing loses it's luster.

I sadly have to agree on this. I really wanna see a "WOW look at this" game.
I would take a graphical impressive Ryse 2 over this lackluster looking crossgen games.

 

[CrysisFreak]

Looks as bad as the Demon's Souls 80€ remaster.

/s

 

[bitbydeath]

And yet you didn't quote or chastise any of the well known Sony fans that piled into this thread immediately for their say! Gotcha, buddy.

Simply stating facts. This will in all likely run worse on a GPU with less power, because that's the way these things work.

They aren't being derogatory to the XSX, just the game itself.

Also we don't know the full picture on how the specs will play out, just wait.

 

[Riky]

I don't think this is final code from what is being said.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Framerate is all over the place. It's clearly struggling with some drops at ~40fps.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

I don't think this is final code from what is being said.

To be honest I don't buy into those "not final XSX/PS5 HW" "not final XSX/PS5 Firmware" "not final Game build" crap.
Those are just excuses.

This game is simply visually crappy and aims towards pure gameplay at 120fps for those that can actually put it to use. ( meaning having a TV/Monitor that can display it )
XSX way to aim at 60+ FPS will suffer in visuals thats a given, question is going to be - is it gonna be worth to play at 60+fps or not?

I can tell you I wouldn't want to play games at 120fps if they look like something between currentgen (PS4Onex) and last gen ( PS360 era )

 

[geordiemp]

Ok? I literally showed you a review that contradicts your usual FUD (I'm sure if the PS5 preview came out first, you'd also be posting about it too) but here let me paste the relevant parts;

Quality Mode (4k/uncapped)

Playing in 4K, I started things off in Image
Quality mode which seemed to be pushing 4K at an uncapped frame rate. As far as I can tell, the game was hitting 60FPS most of the time, only dropping below when there were more than a handful of cars on-screen or when something major was happening off-track.

Performance Mode (Dynamic 4k/60fps)

Frame Rate mode was an extremely consistent 60FPS without sacrificing visuals

DiRT 5 and our first Xbox Series X “enhanced” tests: 120Hz saves the uneven ride [Updated]

A bleeding-edge Xbox Series X feature impresses, but it deserves a prettier game.

arstechnica.com

In "resolution" mode, the game runs in an apparently uncapped frame rate; this bounces between 30fps and 60fps, which averages out to roughly 40fps. This mode's dynamic resolution maxes out near 2160p and falls as low as an apparent 1440p. (Compared to Xbox One's heavily aliased DiRT 4, the jump in resolution this time around is very appreciated.)

Drop to DiRT 5's middle "frame rate" setting, and you'll see a mild hit to texture pop-in on the ground ahead of you, along with a noticeable hit to shadow pop-in in the near distance. Settings are otherwise mostly left intact, other than a dynamic resolution that scales down lower, while the frame rate gets close to, but doesn't lock to, 60fps.

 

[LivingD3AD]

Maybe the Series S is true bottleneck here

 

[DrScissorsMD]

Quick google search will bring up what you're looking for.

You're the one making the claim, mate, not my job to get your receipts for you.

 

[Riky]

Maybe the Series S is true bottleneck here

Must be, obviously not the One S or the PS4.

It's a third party game and they are making four Xbox versions, 3 PS versions and a PC version.

 

[Esppiral]

If the game was showcased as a Ps5 tittle the narrative would be way different, 4k 60 baby!

People saying it looks like trash are aware that this is cross gen tittle? Also is people expecting it to run or look better on ps5? Looking at the comments looks like it.....

 

[Zoro7]

You're the one making the claim, mate, not my job to get your receipts for you.

I didn't ask you to quote my message. Thanks.

 

[BigLee74]

They aren't being derogatory to the XSX, just the game itself.

I counted 4 that had a pop at the XSX. Try again!

 

[Physiognomonics]

The game is not a looker even using the highest quality mode, but the gameplay looks fun.

 

[FunkMiller]

Oh come on Microsoft. You can't hold back next gen footage for months, and then lead with this...

 

[BigLee74]

Personally, it's a wee bit disappointing that this can't get a lock in performance mode, never mind 4k60.

But it's not a game I would buy anyway unless in a fire sale. Having said that, I did enjoy Dirt 3 at the time...

 

[azertydu91]

If the game was showcased as a Ps5 tittle the narrative would be way different, 4k 60 baby!

People saying it looks like trash are aware that this is cross gen tittle? Also is people expecting it to run or look better on ps5? Looking at the comments looks like it.....

Yep the same people saying it doesn't look that bad would bedestroying the game for its visual and not being capable of holding a steady 60 fps.

Because being one of the only next gen title running on XSX made it a console war game when it is in fact just a bad looking game, not representative of neither ps5 not XSX.

But people are gonna console warring because there's nothing else to do right now.And the most ardent warriors on both side will just unsheath their swords (being so trivial it could as well be wooden clubs).

The sony warriors that got bitter by the TF narrative will tout this game as representative being the only XSX game we've seen running on the hardware etc...
And the Xbox warriors will defend it saying it doesn't look that bad and that ps5 won't do better since i's supposed to be weaker etc...

And in the realm of reality it's not a good looking title but since it is multiplat, crossgen, and third party it doesn't mean anything.
It will probably run about the same on both consoles and even if it is not honestly who would believe it's pushing any of the next gen consoles?