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Disney•Pixar Newt canceled?

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GhaleonQ said:
I think Pixar's a mediocre animation studio, even compared to other commercial studios, but this isn't good news for anyone.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Anyway, newt isn't canceled until there's an officia announcement. There's not a single piece of information available on this after a search on Google News for the past month.
 
omg rite said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Obviously, they can't touch artists like Aleksandr Petrov, Koji Yamamura, and Cordell Barker, but I'd put them under big commercial studios like Ghibli, 4C, Kratky Film, and Django. Expand your horizons!

megashock5 said:
Explain, please.

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/chris-sanders-american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/american-dog-plot-revealed.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/chris-sanders-no-longer-directing-american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/american-dog-or-london-adventure.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/chris-sanders-to-dreamworks.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/disneys-bolt.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/bolt-character-designs.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/rumor-central-lasseter-not-keane-on-rapunzel.html

(They ended up really liking Bolt, by the way. Also, obviously, Sanders may have been wasting money or it may have got away from him. Nevertheless, Lasseter probably spent even more to start over from scratch.)
 
Too bad CG movies make so much money nowadays. I absolutely loved Princess and the Frog. It looked absolutely stunning too. Even though Pixar plots and characters may be superior, I think Disney's hand-drawn animation is still a billion times more charming and vivid than even the most sophisticated Pixar computer wizardry...
 
E-phonk said:
People are saying the princess & the frog "flopped", but according tot wikipedia it did $210,951,400 worldwide (and it's still running in my country), while it needed to make $105 million to break even..
Add to this the DVD & Bluray release and licensing which are always doing very well for disney movies, and I can't image this not being profitable.

The reported budget was $105 million, and films need to make roughly twice their budget to break even. And just barely "breaking even" isn't really worth the time or money spent on the investment, obviously.
 
Munin said:
Too bad CG movies make so much money nowadays. I absolutely loved Princess and the Frog. It looked absolutely stunning too. Even though Pixar plots and characters may be superior, I think Disney's hand-drawn animation is still a billion times more charming and vivid than even the most sophisticated Pixar computer wizardry...

I agree 100%!

The Princess and the Frog was GREAT!
 
GhaleonQ said:
Outside of the art design, we have no idea whether Chris Sanders had a good thing going on with American Dog. Lasseter isn't perfect but he does have pretty good instincts for story, so I'm inclined to trust him on that end. Lilo & Stitch certainly didn't earn Sanders the benefit of the doubt from me. I thought all the bounty hunter nonsense and most everything after Stitch reveals to the family that he can talk was pretty lame.

And the link you posted about the American Dog plot is bullshit; it's just Cartoon Brew noting how unreliable IMDb is for that kind of info.
 
E-phonk said:
People are saying the princess & the frog "flopped", but according tot wikipedia it did $210,951,400 worldwide (and it's still running in my country), while it needed to make $105 million to break even..

What do you mean it had to do $105 million to break even?

I'd love to see your math for this one.
 
Stumpokapow said:
What do you mean it had to do $105 million to break even?

I'd love to see your math for this one.

He's under the incorrect impression that anything over the documented production costs is profit. According to a film buff friend of mine a movie generally needs to make back double it's budget to break even, but I honestly don't know how true that statement is.
 
Think I'm going to wait for confirmation before commenting on this too specifically. Pixar reworks things from time to time, so it wouldn't be surprising if Newt was simply put on the back-burner.
 
Ah fuck there was gonna be a Snow Queen movie.
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Never even heard of Newt.
 
I can't believe that Cars 2 was ever even considered, let alone MADE, yet newt, which sounded brilliant, will never be more than a logo.
 
That stinks but knowing the premise now it doesn't seem that great. Still, I'd rather Cars 2 be canned as that's my least favorite Pixar movie.

Probably means we'll see an easter egg in one of their next movies with two newts in the background.
 
I was expecting it. Wasn't a huge fan of the concept, but still sucks to see it get scrapped.

I'm far more bummed about The Snow Queen getting shelved.
 
Stumpokapow said:
What do you mean it had to do $105 million to break even?

I'd love to see your math for this one.

The $105M budget doesn't include marketing, and the box office revenues are split with theatres.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Pixar has had nothing but hits at this point (haven't seen Cars, though, so can't comment), so I'm assuming that if it was scrapped, it was for good reason.

Disney has been increasingly interfering with Pixar operations though. Pixar loves creating new original movies, while Disney pressure is what has forced them into making sequels, and using gimmicky 3D to increase ticket prices.
 
Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Pixar has had nothing but hits at this point (haven't seen Cars, though, so can't comment), so I'm assuming that if it was scrapped, it was for good reason.
Cars was a hit in the sense that it was a financial success (and a big one at that), but it was easily Pixar's weakest effort by far.
 
Zzoram said:
Disney has been increasingly interfering with Pixar operations though. Pixar loves creating new original movies, while Disney pressure is what has forced them into making sequels, and using gimmicky 3D to increase ticket prices.
Wake me up when you have evidence that these decisions are being made by a corrupted braintrust.
 
Bah - you can't accuse Disney of messing with Pixar. Lasseter is single-handedly reinvigorating Disney feature animation, Disney imagineering, and Pixar chugged right along with Up and Wall-E (and supposedly TS3 is excellent too).

If this got canceled, that meant the top talent at Pixar probably wasn't happy with where it was going. It's a shame, because I was excited for it, but you gotta trust the group of guys that have never released a dud (Cars and A Bug's Life weren't their best efforts, but still better than most kids/family movies out there)
 
Dan said:
Wake me up when you have evidence that these decisions are being made by a corrupted braintrust.

Seriously. Also, it's not as if audiences don't WANT to see sequels; it doesn't take a corporate hand interfering with anything to see that sequels are a good idea. Pixar, thus far, has one (and supposedly 2, if the Toy Story 3 early reviews are to be believed) great sequel under its belt; there is no reason to believe that the upcoming ones won't be at least solid, if not great (though I suppose that Cars 2 is limited by the supposed weakness of its original movie). Once they make the move to two movies a year, there is no reason to suspect that we won't get a whole mess of wonderful original IPs.
 
All I have to say is that I work in the same building that Blue Sky is located in and I've seen a lot of cars with Pixar bumper stickers and people in the cafeteria wearing Pixar polo shirts and fleeces. I'm sure animators bounce back and forth between companies.
 
Dunno if TS3 was just uninspired, but I couldn't even make it through the whole movie on Netflix. And I've seen everything by Pixar except for Cars.

I had watched Ponyo right before it though.

Basically I don't think I'll bother with Pixar sequels anymore. Gotta be something original.
 
Futureman said:
Dunno if TS3 was just uninspired, but I couldn't even make it through the whole movie on Netflix. And I've seen everything by Pixar except for Cars.

I had watched Ponyo right before it though.

Basically I don't think I'll bother with Pixar sequels anymore. Gotta be something original.

If it can help, Toy Story 3 was considered the best written movie of last year by many critics. It's polished to perfection and presented in such a refreshing way that it also won many awards.

I suggest you give the movie another chance.
 
Futureman said:
Dunno if TS3 was just uninspired, but I couldn't even make it through the whole movie on Netflix. And I've seen everything by Pixar except for Cars.

I had watched Ponyo right before it though.

Basically I don't think I'll bother with Pixar sequels anymore. Gotta be something original.
Yeah. Except for the ending I didn't really feel anything all that special about the movie. For some reason I felt it should have been longer. The villains were revealed too early on. Maybe I need to rewatch Toy Story 2 but Prospector Pete wasn't villainized quite as early as the Daycare toys from Toy Story 3.
 
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