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DisneyPixar Newt canceled?
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GhaleonQ
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omg rite said:
Obviously, they can't touch artists like Aleksandr Petrov, Koji Yamamura, and Cordell Barker, but I'd put them under big commercial studios like Ghibli, 4C, Kratky Film, and Django. Expand your horizons!
megashock5 said:
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/chris-sanders-american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/american-dog-plot-revealed.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/chris-sanders-no-longer-directing-american-dog.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/american-dog-or-london-adventure.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/chris-sanders-to-dreamworks.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/disneys-bolt.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/bolt-character-designs.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/rumor-central-lasseter-not-keane-on-rapunzel.html
(They ended up really liking Bolt, by the way. Also, obviously, Sanders may have been wasting money or it may have got away from him. Nevertheless, Lasseter probably spent even more to start over from scratch.)
Too bad CG movies make so much money nowadays. I absolutely loved Princess and the Frog. It looked absolutely stunning too. Even though Pixar plots and characters may be superior, I think Disney's hand-drawn animation is still a billion times more charming and vivid than even the most sophisticated Pixar computer wizardry...
Joe Shlabotnik
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E-phonk said:
The reported budget was $105 million, and films need to make roughly twice their budget to break even. And just barely "breaking even" isn't really worth the time or money spent on the investment, obviously.
Gameboy415
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Munin said:
I agree 100%!
The Princess and the Frog was GREAT!
Outside of the art design, we have no idea whether Chris Sanders had a good thing going on with American Dog. Lasseter isn't perfect but he does have pretty good instincts for story, so I'm inclined to trust him on that end. Lilo & Stitch certainly didn't earn Sanders the benefit of the doubt from me. I thought all the bounty hunter nonsense and most everything after Stitch reveals to the family that he can talk was pretty lame.GhaleonQ said:
And the link you posted about the American Dog plot is bullshit; it's just Cartoon Brew noting how unreliable IMDb is for that kind of info.
Stumpokapow
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E-phonk said:
What do you mean it had to do $105 million to break even?
I'd love to see your math for this one.
funkmastergeneral
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Stumpokapow said:
He's under the incorrect impression that anything over the documented production costs is profit. According to a film buff friend of mine a movie generally needs to make back double it's budget to break even, but I honestly don't know how true that statement is.
Keyser Soze
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I wanted better news from the bump 
VGChampion
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That stinks but knowing the premise now it doesn't seem that great. Still, I'd rather Cars 2 be canned as that's my least favorite Pixar movie.
Probably means we'll see an easter egg in one of their next movies with two newts in the background.
Probably means we'll see an easter egg in one of their next movies with two newts in the background.
BertramCooper
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I was expecting it. Wasn't a huge fan of the concept, but still sucks to see it get scrapped.
I'm far more bummed about The Snow Queen getting shelved.
I'm far more bummed about The Snow Queen getting shelved.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Pixar has had nothing but hits at this point (haven't seen Cars, though, so can't comment), so I'm assuming that if it was scrapped, it was for good reason.
jstevenson
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Bah - you can't accuse Disney of messing with Pixar. Lasseter is single-handedly reinvigorating Disney feature animation, Disney imagineering, and Pixar chugged right along with Up and Wall-E (and supposedly TS3 is excellent too).
If this got canceled, that meant the top talent at Pixar probably wasn't happy with where it was going. It's a shame, because I was excited for it, but you gotta trust the group of guys that have never released a dud (Cars and A Bug's Life weren't their best efforts, but still better than most kids/family movies out there)
If this got canceled, that meant the top talent at Pixar probably wasn't happy with where it was going. It's a shame, because I was excited for it, but you gotta trust the group of guys that have never released a dud (Cars and A Bug's Life weren't their best efforts, but still better than most kids/family movies out there)
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Dan said:
Seriously. Also, it's not as if audiences don't WANT to see sequels; it doesn't take a corporate hand interfering with anything to see that sequels are a good idea. Pixar, thus far, has one (and supposedly 2, if the Toy Story 3 early reviews are to be believed) great sequel under its belt; there is no reason to believe that the upcoming ones won't be at least solid, if not great (though I suppose that Cars 2 is limited by the supposed weakness of its original movie). Once they make the move to two movies a year, there is no reason to suspect that we won't get a whole mess of wonderful original IPs.
afternoon delight
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I thought this was interesting, Lasseter said Rio killed Newt.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/116/1165409p1.html
http://movies.ign.com/articles/116/1165409p1.html
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Thought as much.
Rio was a good movie though.
Rio was a good movie though.
AbsoluteZero
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Wouldn't be the first time they got copycatted.
Littleberu
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AbsoluteZero said:
But Newt would've came out AFTER Rio.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
AbsoluteZero said:
Rio has been in development since 2006 or so. Newt only started back in 2008.
Stormwatch
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All I have to say is that I work in the same building that Blue Sky is located in and I've seen a lot of cars with Pixar bumper stickers and people in the cafeteria wearing Pixar polo shirts and fleeces. I'm sure animators bounce back and forth between companies.
AbsoluteZero
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Littleberu said:
Regulus Tera said:
Then I apologize, I stand corrected.
Dunno if TS3 was just uninspired, but I couldn't even make it through the whole movie on Netflix. And I've seen everything by Pixar except for Cars.
I had watched Ponyo right before it though.
Basically I don't think I'll bother with Pixar sequels anymore. Gotta be something original.
I had watched Ponyo right before it though.
Basically I don't think I'll bother with Pixar sequels anymore. Gotta be something original.
jstevenson
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Tucah said:
yeah, i thought that seemed relatively obvious when the Rio campaign was kicked off full blast. Newt would've looked pretty much like a rip-off.
For the best I guess, though I still would've love to have seen PIXAR's take
Littleberu
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Futureman said:
If it can help, Toy Story 3 was considered the best written movie of last year by many critics. It's polished to perfection and presented in such a refreshing way that it also won many awards.
I suggest you give the movie another chance.
Yeah. Except for the ending I didn't really feel anything all that special about the movie. For some reason I felt it should have been longer. The villains were revealed too early on. Maybe I need to rewatch Toy Story 2 but Prospector Pete wasn't villainized quite as early as the Daycare toys from Toy Story 3.Futureman said:
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