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no I'm not friends with cunts.
 
Because of how "studio" the whole franchise comes off. I'd rather watch something made with an auteur's vision.

So does this mean that you don't like it because studios have finally dropped enough cash to make comic book movies good?

Because this is as close (and as good) as we are going to get to the source material.
 
Yes. It's annoying at times since they just dismiss things without trying it. Most of them love metal, I'm not sure if it's related.
 
Because of how "studio" the whole franchise comes off. I'd rather watch something made with an auteur's vision.

eh, I get hat you mean, but at the same time that isn't going to happen.

I remember when I found out that Terry Gilliam was the original choice to direct Harry Potter. What could have been...

At the same time I still enjoy the Harry Potter series, even though it has it's flaws.

At the end of the day; you shouldn't limit yourself based on these strict principles. Go out and watch Guardians of the Galaxy, and you might have a blast.

I am someone who loves art films and works of great auteurs such as Satyajit Ray, but at the same time I still watch transformers for the explosions. Life is too short to be so stubborn, and I don't mean that as an insult on your character.
 
I have friends who'll do a more specific variation of that that's probably just as dumb: they'll dislike things based on who likes it. Like, [some asshole we know] plays this game, I'm not gonna touch that.
 
So does this mean that you don't like it because studios have finally dropped enough cash to make comic book movies good?

Because this is as close (and as good) as we are going to get to the source material.
IMO, the Pinball FX2 tables are closer to the source material than the movies. :)

And if we're talking about matching a comic book, Scott Pilgrim does a much better job. I've heard Sin City does that well too.
 
What about the Batman Nolanverse?

Or Watchmen?

Those I enjoyed (Watchmen was kind of a mess). It's just that the whole Marvel 20-year plan thing, slowly meting out new superheroes and villains, is way too much.

So does this mean that you don't like it because studios have finally dropped enough cash to make comic book movies good?

Because this is as close (and as good) as we are going to get to the source material.

I'm not a huge comic book fan in the first place, save for the DC Vertigo/Daniel Clowes stuff, which kind of plays into the same mainstream/alternative dichotomy.

At the end of the day; you shouldn't limit yourself based on these strict principles. Go out and watch Guardians of the Galaxy, and you might have a blast.

I am someone who loves art films and works of great auteurs such as Satyajit Ray, but at the same time I still watch transformers for the explosions. Life is too short to be so stubborn, and I don't mean that as an insult on your character.

I don't doubt Guardians of the Galaxy is a fun movie. It's just that I Redboxed The Lego Movie a couple of weeks again, and I watched like half of it that night. The next evening, I had to return it and I did not feel compelled to finish the movie. GotG looks to be a smart/funny studio flick in the same way, but it's completely missable to me personally.
 
I am friends with some people like this and I am somewhat like this myself. I'm also friends with people who think the Transformer movies are fucking rad and are excited for that latest Katy Perry song.

There's nothing wrong with going on both sides of the fence.
 
I have a friend that talks endlessly about Metallica like they're metal gods who are so legit and GENUINE, and whenever he gets obnoxiously bad I pull out the photo I have of James Hetfield shopping at Banana Republic.

He loses his shit. :)

honestly at this point metallica's 80s output is underrated because of the last quarter-century of mediocrity

that's still hilarious though
 
No i dont typically become good friends with hipsters.

I once dated a girl who was that contrarian type, she had this disdain for how predictable mainstream music and film were. The irony of that is that it made her predictable, anything that gained any traction, and she was bound to hate it. Its like a human being turned into a character

I took her to see Scream 2 in theaters and she hated it obviously, and rambled how Hitchcock was the true master. I still wonder whether she has ever seen a whole Hitchcock movie.
 
I like things that are good. Mainstream stuff is often cheap, mass-produced garbage, but it isn't always. And even then, in the right mood and context I can occasionally appreciate even the most commercial, plastic, focus-group-tested pop music.

No i dont typically become good friends with hipsters.

I once dated a girl who was that contrarian type, she had this disdain for how predictable mainstream music and film were. The irony of that is that it made her predictable, anything that gained any traction, and she was bound to hate it. Its like a human being turned into a character

I took her to see Scream 2 in theaters and she hated it obviously, and rambled how Hitchcock was the true master. I still wonder whether she has ever seen a whole Hitchcock movie.
Ugh your misuse of that word is so mainstream.
 
Is Pulp Fiction really that mainstream? It's 20 years old. I know a bunch of people who haven't even seen it

You can buy t-shirts and mugs with jokes and references. I'd say it is very much mainstream.

No i dont typically become good friends with hipsters.

I once dated a girl who was that contrarian type, she had this disdain for how predictable mainstream music and film were. The irony of that is that it made her predictable, anything that gained any traction, and she was bound to hate it. Its like a human being turned into a character

I took her to see Scream 2 in theaters and she hated it obviously, and rambled how Hitchcock was the true master. I still wonder whether she has ever seen a whole Hitchcock movie.

Hitchcock was as mainstream as it gets. Which reminds me of a guy I meet in a course I took in art school who would praise Reggaeton like it was some obscure exotic latin form of music, because he lived in the States and didn't thought it would be the very thing blasting out 24/7 on radio stations all over Caribbean nations.
 
People who rally against "mainstream" just for the sale of it being mainstream are just trying to go against the grain and have their own opinion, not realising that their "opinion" is actually being dictated for them.

It feels like a teenage or otherwise immature mentality.
 
I don't doubt Guardians of the Galaxy is a fun movie. It's just that I Redboxed The Lego Movie a couple of weeks again, and I watched like half of it that night. The next evening, I had to return it and I did not feel compelled to finish the movie. GotG looks to be a smart/funny studio flick in the same way, but it's completely missable to me personally.

"Everything Is Awesome" initially sounds like a cheeky send-up of lowest-common-denominator entertainment (and it is) but by the end of the movie it's also a celebration of the different approaches to imagination and play and, yes, Lego toys.

You can get a couple of decent essays out of The Lego Movie.
 
I'm probably that friend when it comes to pop music, but none of my friends listen to that shit either, so idk.

My friends listen to the music that Facebook tells them they're supposed to like. They criticize me for hating most of it. Then a year later, they hate the one-hit-wonder "artists" who aren't cool anymore.
 
no I'm not friends with cunts.

Ah, but there is always a cunt in any given group of people. If you can't identify one of your group as a cunt, then it's you.

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i've a few "noise makers" deep into the metalhead mentality that i can't help but annoy when they start up.

i actually have this saved for future use. i find the whole "not being part of the crowd" thing hilarious when most of them look exactly like this.
 
My friends listen to the music that Facebook tells them they're supposed to like. They criticize me for hating most of it. Then a year later, they hate the one-hit-wonder "artists" who aren't cool anymore.

Same people who are always on the lookout for the "Summer Song of 201_"
 
Hating something because its mainstream is pretty narrow minded.

But like already mentioned 90% of the time mainstream stuff are kind of shallow.

It's so much fun searching and liking non-mainstream things to be honest. I have much more fun since I grew up and started looking for alternatives :) so no reason to go back.
 
I like things that are good. Mainstream stuff is often cheap, mass-produced garbage, but it isn't always. And even then, in the right mood and context I can occasionally appreciate even the most commercial, plastic, focus-group-tested pop music.


Ugh your misuse of that word is so mainstream.

I AM A FRAUD :_(

Hitchcock was as mainstream as it gets. Which reminds me of a guy I meet in a course I took in art school who would praise Reggaeton like it was some obscure exotic latin form of music, because he lived in the States and didn't thought it would be the very thing blasting out 24/7 on radio stations all over Caribbean nations.

Oh yeah but perhaps not that mainstream in the late 90s. I remember her VHS shelf, and there was at best 15 movies, i did not see any Hitchcock stuff.

But perhaps thats the irony (am i using it right now?) in that she probably would have hated Hitchcock during his heydays only because it was mainstream and something the general audience enjoyed.
 
1939?! Maybe my great-grand parents saw it brah

By which I mean a movie not being particularly contemporary doesn't stop it from being one of the most famous movies of all time.

Pulp Fiction grossed over $100 million in 1994, was nominated for Best Picture, Director, Actor, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress and Screenplay, resurrected John Travolta's career, made Sam Jackson a household name, launched a cottage industry of imitation films, and was and is endlessly quoted, referenced, parodied, etc.

It's mainstream.
 
Maybe? But I don't hang out with them really. I do have friends that are more critical, but no one who is that much of an obnoxious prick that something being popular is a turn off.
 
The closest thing is that my best friend and fellow GAF user, GraveHorizon, will automatically hate anything recommended to him before he even sees, plays or interacts with the recommended thing. Based on things he likes, I recommended him Dark Souls and Mass Effect, he repeatedly insulted both games and was super against playing them, until he did and then they became two of his favorite games.

He does the same thing with tv shows and anime, but then he just never watches those.
 
I the most hateful of people I know, but popularity isn't a factor at all. That's arbitrary, among other things. I just dislike a lot of what I hear on the airwaves and prefer music from the 70s, 80s and 90s for the most part.
 
I'm probably that guy who shits on mainstream stuff then I guess. Not so much my friends. That's why I have to find people to go to concerts with on the internet I guess :P

But to be fair, I don't hate mainstream. I just don't listen to it and don't really have much to say about it. It's pretty useless to go rant about things you don't like to other people. Just enjoy your own shit.
 
I did, he was the typical hipster who didn't like bands when they became successful but he had good taste as he introduced me to 65daysofstatic, so he wasn't all bad!

Yeah, they might be a bit annoying, but they have really good taste often in my experience so it's an ok trade-off.
 
Remember when everybody hated on Twilight because it was the cool thing to do?

Finally saw one of them and yeah it was actually a bad movie.
 
Nah, the only thing hated among my group of friends is Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber - can't blame them - except for a (girl) friend who's "in love" with 'em, ew.
 
One of my friends will become incredibly nitpicky if he feels like it, which is why I never go to the movies with him anymore.

I love movies and I'm kind of invested in them, but hearing someone rant for half an hour over them reloading a WWII-weapon wrong is not my cup of tea.
 
i've a few "noise makers" deep into the metalhead mentality that i can't help but annoy when they start up.

i actually have this saved for future use. i find the whole "not being part of the crowd" thing hilarious when most of them look exactly like this.

Hahahahahaha do you mind if I borrow this as well?

I have someone I need to keep extra salty from time to time :D.
 
I've had two friends, one from high school and one from college give me this "you only like it because it's new" debate. I absolutely cannot stand it. While I could talk about it for hours and go on about the negatives of some mainstream things they still insist its a problem.

Now if we're arguing music. I don't care for a lot of mainstream music, but I'll still find that person who says "you're like that guy who only listens to classical rock". The whole argument is tasteless. Rather it's modern or older doesn't even matter. To say new is always better is stupid. Even if new artists are born that doesn't mean they're good or better or worse.

I've had friends grab the product from my hand at a game store/ best buy to prove a point or I've had that lonely conversation where the person has to make this strong point. It's probably one of the worst feelings you'll find next to actually punching the person from actual fighting. Even if it's taste, it's a pretty personal choice and who really gives a shit?
 
I AM A FRAUD :_(



Oh yeah but perhaps not that mainstream in the late 90s. I remember her VHS shelf, and there was at best 15 movies, i did not see any Hitchcock stuff.

But perhaps thats the irony (am i using it right now?) in that she probably would have hated Hitchcock during his heydays only because it was mainstream and something the general audience enjoyed.

Yeah, couple of decades before maybe she would have hated talkies altogether, or even moving pictures; and be a theater gal.
 
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