Do female DOA fans like the nipple-and-labia-covering costumes? Legit question, I don't think I have even heard of a DOA tourney here in Mexico.
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DOA5:LR Community Soft-Bans 100+ Costumes from Tournaments
- Thread starter mdsfx
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Core fighters only has four characters among them. Hitomi is often available free for a limited time, but she's not one of the four unlocked by default. So I bought her.
I dunno if any one character has 39, but on average every character has 20-25 costumes, counting the defaults.
DigitalHitmann
Banned
Eolz
Member
In terms of mechanics, it has only been the case for 1 and 4 tbh. Take the time to see/learn what the game is about, even if it has a "fanservice first" perception problem.
It's not a sub-tier game mechanically, especially against most episodes of those bolded.
Especially Mortal Kombat...
Edit:
Not sure if this is the case (probably 30+ for some), but nobody is forced to buy or use them.
And yes, I'm also for a random filter ingame. If you went in the OT, you'd know most here also actually are, and used the survey to say it. Speaking of which, I wish I waited for this thread before sending the survey so I could change some answers and talk about community support/ban...
And your analogy would be fine if the TO who proposed this originally decided to only imply this locally. Instead, he or those who created this rule set decided it should be applied to all tournaments. That's the issue. He didn't poll what TOs or people who attend tourneys on the west coast, or the South thinks. Even if its only a soft ban, its still there.
Local tourneys has their own rule and that's fine, but once you try to enforce stuff on the national level, you need to make sure you have all your ducks in a row. This rules set simply didn't do that.
So yeah, people are going to question why you have this ban, especially when its as inconsistent and haphazard as it is.
Makes sense. I thought of the disc version as the default and totally forgot about the f2p one.
KojiKnight
Member
Did you ask how the female players at these tournaments feel? Or just assume that they wanted the game censored on their behalf? The former is progressive, the latter is even more repressive than leaving things as is.
GuessMyUserName
Member
Because there is absolutely nothing wrong with sexiness. DoA has always been known as a sexy series and it's stupid to try and pull that out.
If someone has a huge problem with DoA's style then they're better off staying out, and costumes absolutely won't even be enough to change that. And that's okay, not every single game has to be covered up.
No, people tend to do it on the last match to save time but there have been times, quite recently in fact, where a person won one game, paused it, looked up the fatality, then did it on the opponent. There's no restriction on fatalities or babalities.
IdreamofHIME
Member
What a load of shite. Next they'll be saying they play DOAX for the volleyball.
Piss off.
Piss off.
If we are speaking on anecdotal evidence I've been to various FGC tournaments myself and I've seen far more female players in Smash than any other game.
That's not a legitimate metric.
I think that's the main issue here. Characters like Christie, Tina, etc. don't lose their sexyiness in their default outfits, but if whatever reason they were DLC outfits, they'd likely be banned under this proposal. Both of these are default outfits, are these too sexy then? Would you ban these outfits if you could?
It's a *community* soft ban... they've already said how they feel
You didn't answer his question or inquiry. Would you be willing to concede select costumes in order to compete in a DOA tournament?
GuessMyUserName
Member
It's a video game, not an actual reality-bound fighting competition. Breaking free with stuff like "extra stupid" costumes is part of the fun.
And that point isn't limited to sexy costumes - that goes for absolutely all ridiculous costumes. I very often pick the most ridiculous costumes BECAUSE of the fact that it's "extra stupid". That's the point, it's a game, you can do this.
Just like I love playing as a gingerbread man in TimeSplitters 2
No.
Banana Aeon
Member
This was a community ban by TOs. The community had no input on this.
The OP has a link to roughly 14 pages of the community arguing over the rule.....it's disingenuous to say that there's any kind of unanimous community decision here.
Also, you should probably take a look at some of the outfits that "the community" thought was appropriate. They're still super-nasty.
SixMachine
Member
That's a given because Smash is many times larger than DOA competitive wise, Street Fighter I have definitely seen more because that pretty much has more participants at every gathering I go to. But as an anecdote I've noticed a decent amount of female players like to play DOA, I remember when DOA4 was trying to go esports and competitive they also had female competitors (you can probably dig around on youtube for it, I don't know the name of the tournaments and league). I've personally known women who like to play this game more than other fighting games because they like it's flow of combat much better (surprisingly I think this game embodies what Sirlin wants where you skip the step where you have to learn execution and go straight into reads and mind games. I've known people who said they don't like how Tekken moves and like how easy it is to just walk around in DOA for example).
Banana Aeon
Member
Mister Wilhelm
Member
This is so completely fucking stupid.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Whaaaaaaat. Mortal Kombat is a much bigger game than Dead or Alive and it has ninjas who are literally identical except for color and no one cares.
I've never heard of anyone confusing me as a Mileena player.
This is crazy lol.
Honestly I don't believe this is the real reason.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
I was looking through the costumes thinking, "These aren't so bad," but then I hit this one:
That's beyond creep territory I'm afraid.
That's beyond creep territory I'm afraid.
RagingAvatar
Member
Free Vita version?!
Banana Aeon
Member
Oh man, those EventHubs comments...
All this did was bring more negativity to a already hammered community.
All this did was bring more negativity to a already hammered community.
DigitalHitmann
Banned
Thats what im saying! An now theyre deleting peoples comments on FSD an say dont discuss it, its already decided.
Don't think that one is actually banned though, lol.I was looking through the costumes thinking, "These aren't so bad," but then I hit this one:
That's beyond creep territory I'm afraid.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Eolz
Member
I'm not sure but I think the demo actually allows you to do many things.
Oh FFS. Even
Goobergate
Great fucking job FSD...
DR2K
Banned
More than what was cut.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Seth Enosh
Member
Good for them. Personally I haven't considered buying the games since they went M rated, it's a fun casual fighter and I enjoyed DOA: dimensions on 3ds and the dreamcast version, but the newer costumes are too over the top for me.
A fun fighting game.
Wooow wth thats straight pedo fantasy right there, how can anyone think thats ok?I was looking through the costumes thinking, "These aren't so bad," but then I hit this one:
That's beyond creep territory I'm afraid.
Man, when I got to the beach and see girls playing in a swimsuit, my first thought is initially sexual in nature. I dont just assume that it's a little girl in a one piece swimsuit, I immediately assume that she's trying to turn on men
Mushroomer25
Member
They're unrelated, but I can understand why some higher-level members of the community would want to separate them. DoA's image turns people off of the game. That's well known. So if you want to promote high-level play, it might be in everyone's best interest to limit what costumes are going to be available. You want the game to be presented in the best light possible.
The comparison's already been made here before, but it's still true. It's no different from a pro fighter deciding to cover offensive tattoos before entering a UFC ring. You want people to focus on the fighting, not the fighters.
No one will ever see the DOA community as a bunch of prudes, lol.
Coffee Dog
Banned
but the developers very clearly want the players to focus on the fighters. That's DOA's schtick.
its not really something the player base has the power to control. Characters are still going to have giant tits bouncing around. They still will wear porn star tier outfits and squeal when hit. That's just, well, DOA.
It's a series aimed at a very specific horny male demographic, and if you don't enjoy that you probably need to play a different series because it straight up isn't for you.
So people playing are now incapable of remembering who they are controlling?
It does sound like if a game like this gets good tournament support, that the developer could build in better tournament options - like more colour options to give you a 'home' and 'away' kit to avoid issues with similar looking outfits (and avoiding colourblind combinations), being able to fix a set of selectable costumes etc
No offense, but your word and the word of everyone else invoking, "But the series has TONS of female fans!!" is meaningless. There are either stats to back the claim up or you guys may as well be pulling it out of your ass.
