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Doctor Strange is an oddball in phase three because assuming Captain Marvel is introduced in Infinity War, it'll be the only full-length origin story in this block of films---Black Panther and Spider-Man: Homecoming both being spin-offs from Civil War. I think they would have taken the same approach (introduce Strange in a previous film and start his solo outing in full-swing) but I'm guessing they thought such an atypical superhero would require proper framing.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last traditional origin story in the MCU. Even Thor, Guardians and Ant-Man can't really be called traditional origin stories.
-In Thor, the protagonist already has his powers and persona at the start, and spends the second act trying to earn them back.
-In Guardians, all the team members start with their powers and personae established, they just hadn't formed a team yet.
-Ant-Man is basically a Scott Lang sequel to a trilogy of Hank Pym movies that don't exist. The powers and persona are established, it's really a story about an existing Superhero Identity being passed from one person to the next.
looking forward to Captain America 4

I get why they decided to make it a traditional Origin Story film but I hope it's the last one in the MCU.
 
GAMEPROFF said:
1. Depends on the writing
2. MvC Dormammu is not rankable since he can be beaten with some Karate.
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2. i refer about the "look"
this looks badass as hell
latest

but in the movie? meh
 
Gun Animal said:
Doctor Strange is an oddball in phase three because assuming Captain Marvel is introduced in Infinity War, it'll be the only full-length origin story in this block of films---Black Panther and Spider-Man: Homecoming both being spin-offs from Civil War. I think they would have taken the same approach (introduce Strange in a previous film and start his solo outing in full-swing) but I'm guessing they thought such an atypical superhero would require proper framing.
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I think they've already confirmed that Carol won't be in Infinity War.
 
this was a good movie. pacing in the beginning to middle was pretty bad, with scenes going from one to another to another to another, so much shit happening so fast.

a lot of the shit didn't make sense to me but i shouldn't bother trying to make sense since it's just a movie that's part a franchise close to 10 years old and 15 films in deep.
 
It was good. The visuals were on point but as it's already been stated by others, the rest of the film is mostly just OK. I'm surprised to say though that I think I like it a little less than I do Ant-Man. I'm still gathering my thoughts though.
 
Kurdel said:
Loved the ending gambit with Dormammu and the time gem, felt like a unique way to deal with a unique threat.
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I knew nothing about this character going into the film, but I appreciated that Strange doesn't really "fight" the villain. He's new to this, he barely survived his first fight with Hannibal. In the end, he used his brains. He's not suddenly an expert fighter.
 
This is my favorite Marvel movie but I might be biased because Strange is my favorite Marvel character.

End Credits scene related but did anyone else think it was weird that there is a big spoiler (I think?
Thor knowing that Loki is Odin.
)for Ragnarok in the end credits scene? Although I am now very excited for Thor 3 now because I always thought that the Thor movies were the weakest Marvel movies but if Doctor Strange is in it I am definitely going to see it now.
 
This is the best use of an Infinity Gem yet in the movies. They could have done way more with the mind stone in Age of Ultron.
 
I think the earlier comments had the wrong interpretation of what the balcony conversation was saying, about Strange and Pangborn.

I think the Ancient One was saying was that Strange had the option Pangborn had, to heal himself and return to his old life as a surgeon if he wished, but the world would be the poorer for it.

Or he could embrace his new life and new role. I don't think it meant that he could never heal his hands or that doing so would eliminate his magic, it just meant that healing and running away was the more selfish of his choices. Strange ultimately chooses the more selfless of the two choices and in doing so does not need to heal his hands.
 
Really liked this movie, especially the subtle Captain Marvel reference.
The Kree said:
This is the best use of an Infinity Gem yet in the movies. They could have done way more with the mind stone in Age of Ultron.
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Agreed. It was pretty much front and center for the latter half of the film.
 
I think I'm a tiny big disappointed that my expectations were just met but not surpassed. That's good and all but my favorite MCU movies all exceeded my expectations in some ways.

My rankings -

Winter Soldier: A
Guardians of the Galaxy: A

Civil War: A-
Iron Man: A-
Avengers: A-

Age of Ultron: B+
Captain America: B+
Ant-Man: B+

Iron Man 3: B
Dr. Strange: B
Thor: B

Iron Man 2: B-

The Dank World: C+
The Incredible Hulk: C+
 
To the people saying Dormammu is gonna be an Avengers villain because of his scope. See, here's the thing...

Yeah he is this big bad guy who swallows dimensions and is from another dimension. But the thing is, that's the whole point. In that all the world needs is Strange to protect Earth from the threats. In the comics and even in their cartoon appearances, like in Spider-Man TAS, Dormammu couldn't go through Earth because of Strange alone, at worst only having human minions.

guek said:
I think I'm a tiny big disappointed that my expectations were just met but not surpassed. That's good and all but my favorite MCU movies all exceeded my expectations in some ways.

My rankings -

Winter Soldier: A
Guardians of the Galaxy: A

Civil War: A-
Iron Man: A-
Avengers: A-

Age of Ultron: B+
Captain America: B+
Ant-Man: B+

Iron Man 3: B
Dr. Strange: B
Thor: B

Iron Man 2: B-

The Dank World: C+
The Incredible Hulk: C+
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Personally I think both Avengers should be lower, but otherwise we match in ranking. Maybe Ant-Man just a tier higher.

I dunno, I never really enjoyed the Avenger films, but if Civil War is a preview of what the Captain America directors could do in Avengers, then I am eager to see their take.
 
Solid film. Definitely inessential, but a fine way to spend a couple hours. It was a little sillier than I wanted but most of the jokes landed alright. I wish the magic was less mandala and fractals, more alchemy and Lessor Key of Solomon. But I don't know anything about this character in comics so maybe that was just a bad expectation.

I hope Benedict Wong is poised to have a moment. Loved him in The Martian, recent Black Mirror episode, and this. All very different roles that he was fun to watch in. He's good at hard swings between silly earnestness and hard-ass stoicism.

Remmy2112 said:
I think the earlier comments had the wrong interpretation of what the balcony conversation was saying, about Strange and Pangborn.

I think the Ancient One was saying was that Strange had the option Pangborn had, to heal himself and return to his old life as a surgeon if he wished, but the world would be the poorer for it.

Or he could embrace his new life and new role. I don't think it meant that he could never heal his hands or that doing so would eliminate his magic, it just meant that healing and running away was the more selfish of his choices. Strange ultimately chooses the more selfless of the two choices and in doing so does not need to heal his hands.
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Yeah it's not that he can't heal his hands. Like he put that broken-ass watch on at the end. Healing his hands isn't necessary but keeping them broken as a totem for remembrance is useful.
 
I don't know if it has been said yet but, Dr. Strange in my opinion does draw parallels to green lantern(I can elaborate upon request). However, it is much much better.

Had that movie taken this approach with the visual detail and overall scope, it would have been amazing. DC has a gold mine with their cosmic universe.
 
This is probably the least scary Mads Mikkelson has ever been, and he's one scary dude.

He just seemed to be walking the whole movie.
 
Speevy said:
This is probably the least scary Mads Mikkelson has ever been, and he's one scary dude.

He just seemed to be walking the whole movie.
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Eyes too fab for menace.

Sometimes he was running funny with his fingers straight out. Karate-chopping the air.
 
flashbandit16 said:
This is my favorite Marvel movie but I might be biased because Strange is my favorite Marvel character.

End Credits scene related but did anyone else think it was weird that there is a big spoiler (I think?
Thor knowing that Loki is Odin.
)for Ragnarok in the end credits scene? Although I am now very excited for Thor 3 now because I always thought that the Thor movies were the weakest Marvel movies but if Doctor Strange is in it I am definitely going to see it now.
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I didn't think it weird rather it set the record straight for the end of Thor 2. It makes much more sense for Odin to ask Loki to impersonate him than for Loki to overthrow Odin. Thor was able to see through Loki's illusions beforeband upon seeing the scene again clearly Loki came before Odin himself as the soldier carrying the message of his demise.
 
Good film but definitely on the safe side which seems to be Disney's approach. The movie is always moving which is often to its detriment. No one lesson for Strange is experienced with the audience. In fact, The Ancient One, kind of spills the beans to Strange while shes dieing. "Her are your flaws and why you're being held back."

Definitely a neat visual film, Cumberbatch brought a unique character to life. The villains were cardboard and interchangeable. Like a bad guy on a Star Trek episode, only the main guy gets any lines.
 
Movie was alright. Visuals were great, but the story was pretty average. But that's how I feel about most Superhero Origin movies.
 
#FreeThanos

Pretty good movie, didn't know shit about dr strange but my mind was blown at the alt multi dimensions
Wong the god laugh was 🐐


Thor 3 gonna have Hulk and Dr strange in it D:
But will it be a struggle 🤔
 
Heh

Who would have thought that the time gem would be used to annoy Dormamu and the Power stone would be recovered from Ronan through a dance off distraction :p
 
How the hell do you go from the masters right hand man, wielding magic from other dimensions to becoming the Black Panther hero.?!
 
I liked the movie but my few gripes:

1. Strange never won in a fight directly, he got help killing his first opponent through unconventional methods, and his last fight he won by outsmarting his opponent while using an infinity stone. Then with the post credit scene he's already acting like a fully realize wizard while he has very little to actually show for it.

2. Everyone on the good side felt too weak, Wong never truly showed off his fighting skills he was defeated off screen alongside all the other masters who disappeared. What happen here? I truly cannot believe they were beaten so easily, let alone quick enough during the time it took Strange and Mordo to get there.

3. The barriers/buildings protecting the world was really weak. This alongside the good side already being too weak, everything just seems too unbelievable that not only all these masters were defeated, but the buildings themselves had no countermeasure to help protect themselves against these evil sorcerers. So your telling me in the time these buildings were put up no one even bothered casting protection magic, have some magical guardians protecting the buildings and so on? Like where is my army of capes attacking clueless villains?

4. We got some stupid doctor love interest now don't get me wrong Dr. Palmer is a great character. And knowing how Marvel loves combining characters together, I wouldn't be shocked to find out she is actually Clea in the next movie in order to double down on the "they were made for each other" vibe. I just felt like having the love interest in this movie wasn't necessary and only dragged on the movie a bit. Granted doesn't every Marvel movie has their leads struggle with love? Cap with Peggy then later a secret agent and then Peggy's great great granddaughter or whatnot, Iron Man with Pepper, Thor with Jane, Ant-Man with the Wasp, Hulk with Black Widow, Star Lord f**king every girl in the Galaxy, Spidey is going to bang Marry Jane or Gwen, and then Black Panther ends up marrying Storm. But considering Fox still owns X-Men and I highly doubt they can use Storm is the Black Panther going to be the only male super hero movie where there is no love interest boggling down the story?
We really need to move on from this cliche.

5. The Amulet is a Infinity Stone in general. I thought this movie was to go full swing with the magical aspect of the Marvel world. Yet making the amulet who's power was supposed to come from a god into a Infinity Stone? Really? Just really? It feels like they are trying to make the magical world extremely small/nonexistent in order to avoid people who believe in other religions to start wailing calling Marvel the anti christ or something. Yes Marvel needed to hurry up and reveal the other infinity stones and yes they could just reveal the gods in some other form later. But I feel like they're putting themselves into a corner that they are going to have to spent 20 minutes explaining themselves out of in order to continue with the character.

Other then that I did enjoy the visual effects, changes to the characters like Wong, and they're take on the Master that was avoiding the generic asian master stereotype was a better move in the long run. But the message of being extremely gifted and being able to let yourself fail in order to succeed was in itself was a hard question to tackle in the story, but the story delivered it greatly.
 
I was surprised by how dull this movie was. It feels like it has the same problems as Matrix Reloaded. Once anything is possible, nothing is impressive....it all just feels like special effects masturbation.

Almost all the action is poorly shot and edited nonsense.

Too many stiff characters spouting exposition and platitudes. The villains all look stupid wearing so much eyeshadow.
 
border said:
Too many stiff characters spouting exposition and platitudes. The villains all look stupid wearing so much eyeshadow.
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Oh add this to my list of gripes with the movie

#6. Villains had terrible costumes and they didn't leave an impression. No one is going to remember these guys in a month after seeing this movie.
 
Saw it. Liked it. Didn't blow me away like Guardians did, but I'll probably come back to it and do some re-watches on this. Casting was great overall, even Mads turned out to be a way better villain than I thought he'd be. If anything my biggest problem was probably how short it was.
 
I nodded off for 3 minutes while he read a book, to wake up and he is throwing devil horns and fighting over sling rings. Wtf?
 
Saw it in IMAX 3D and loved every minute of it. I'm also wondering what the Ms. Marvel reference was. And I see people complaining that he didn't win a fight but I thought that was actually refreshing.
 
Saw it today. Thought it was okay. Solid B. They did Ditko proud.

I think the movie suffers the most from having some pretty thin secondary characters. Mordo was especially a let down. Would think he'd have more screen time given that he's eventually going to become the villain.

They need to bring back Kaecilius back as a dancing mindless one.
 
oh yeah this movie was available in 3D. how was it? I assume the magic circles had depth, but did the trippy keleidoscope effects look wild in 3d?
 
I think the after credits scene is a literal scene from Thor Ragnarok, much like how the Ant-Man credits was a scene from Civil War.

It looks different and is more comedic in tone-at one point Thor looks right at the camera in bemusement for a split second.
 
BLACKLAC said:
Just got back... LOVED IT. Easily the 2nd best origin story in the genre, maybe #1 after some re-watches (Cap 1 current #1).




Which doesn't help your point at all. Not every critic gives a score.

Hacksaw Ridge 7.2. Yet Gibson Stans will fawn over it.
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Yuck. CA1 was a boring slog. Winter Soldier is when I started to accept Cap in this Universe...
Dr Strange was Amazing!
 
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