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Does anime fanservice ever keep you from recommending an anime?
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Subpar Spatula
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I wouldn't.
I don't want to be that person who wants to recommend creepy shows to people. I already lower my evaluation of people when they start talking about how fanservice show X is pretty good.
I don't want to be that person who wants to recommend creepy shows to people. I already lower my evaluation of people when they start talking about how fanservice show X is pretty good.
Yeah im the last person who would say "GET SEX OUT OF MY SHOWS AND VIDYAGAMES!!" . Like i'd actually be sliglhtly upset if it was gone. But you can show sex and sexual things in a more mature(? not sure if that is the best word for it) way.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Yeah
Only time it didn't stop me was in Code Geass, but... it still wasn't welcome
Only time it didn't stop me was in Code Geass, but... it still wasn't welcome
nailbombxx
Member
im so glad I never fell completely into the dank cess pit that is common anime
psynergylover
Member
Somewhat; Kenichi was a pretty good anime/manga before it went into fan service overdrive.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
Kenichi: The Mightest Disciple is still the best anime.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Arguably it was in 5th gear from the start, judging by the Miu pose on the vol 1 cover. The only thing that appears to have changed by the final tank cover is the size of her breasts and how much is poking through the fabric of her painted-on outfit. I dare not post either here.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Nope.
I always recommend Boku no Pico, no exceptions.
I always recommend Boku no Pico, no exceptions.
killer rin
Member
it depends. If i'm recommending a show to an Anime Watcher, i'll recommend away, disclosing things that make sense to disclose. However if i'm recommending something to a non-anime/casual watcher, it is a complete deal breaker.
Its far too often to be watching a show that is perfectly fine and completely recommendation worthy, but then they pull an unnecessary fanservice/creepy moment out of thin air that makes you have to cross the entire thing off and put it into a list of "only recommend if the person is used to anime" pile.
A perfect example is Maid Dragon last season all because of a two minute clip in one episode, It's kind of a shame really.
Its far too often to be watching a show that is perfectly fine and completely recommendation worthy, but then they pull an unnecessary fanservice/creepy moment out of thin air that makes you have to cross the entire thing off and put it into a list of "only recommend if the person is used to anime" pile.
A perfect example is Maid Dragon last season all because of a two minute clip in one episode, It's kind of a shame really.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Eh, not really.
I thought you were joking.
Anyhoo. I barely recommend anything to anyone for any reason. But it wouldn't stop me.
Watch Hunter x Hunter.
I can't even watch/play stuff with excessive fan service, much less recommend them. I couldn't watch past episode 1 of Kill la Kill because of it, nor could I finish either of the Bayonetta games, and those are just two of the examples off the top of my head. Too bad, because those properties were awesome otherwise.
It makes me feel very, very awkward, similar to the way many people feel about cringe humor. I just can't deal with it and also enjoy myself. Not that I'm immune the wiles of cheesecake once in a while, but tons of anime (and many games) waaaaaaaaay overdo it.
It makes me feel very, very awkward, similar to the way many people feel about cringe humor. I just can't deal with it and also enjoy myself. Not that I'm immune the wiles of cheesecake once in a while, but tons of anime (and many games) waaaaaaaaay overdo it.
Fanservice doesn't just make it hard for me to recommend shows, it often makes it hard to get into them in the first place. I've kind of bounced of of Konosuba at this point because despite the core premise being fun (completely dysfunctional RPG party ignores the main plotline to live in luxury in the starting town), the lech factor is just too high.
It even makes me think twice about sharing something like Your Name, which is otherwise one of the most enjoyable films I've seen in years.
It even makes me think twice about sharing something like Your Name, which is otherwise one of the most enjoyable films I've seen in years.
This. Great show until they perv on elementary school students at the beach.
Yep, likewise. I feel bad about Konosuba in particular because it's so damn popular and highly praised but it's really hard for me to overlook stuff like a goddess that runs around in a mini skirt with no underwear (???), among other things that make it far too obvious who the target audience is.
Nowadays I am exceedingly discriminatory about what series I'll get into and largely avoid the stuff with that much obvious pandering. Thankfully, even with that criteria I still actually have a surprising amount of stuff worth watching. I just wish I didn't have to discriminate in such a way in the first place, especially for series that really do not look like they should have pandering nonsense.
Maybe I didn't quite get it (if it was meant to be fanservicey) but that was framed and executed in a super innocent way. Same for the callback later in the movie.
Yea if that's what he meant, that is pretty tame considering the premise.
Alex
Member
Kill la kill is pretty much garbage, you're not missing anything. It has a small handful of good episodes, mostly early on, not worth the trudge either way.
Also fan service as "satire" is bullshit. So many shows or games have tried to claim that in some way
Yes -- I liked Kill la Kill but wouldn't recommend to anyone unless I knew they were okay with that kind of content prior.
This is just ridiculous though. Would you avoid suggesting someone watch a live action movie because it contained a sex scene? About the same ratio there.
This is just ridiculous though. Would you avoid suggesting someone watch a live action movie because it contained a sex scene? About the same ratio there.
Yeah.
Once was... eh, OK; makes sense in the context of someone waking up half-asleep in an unfamiliar body. But then he did it repeatedly, even after being asked not to do so. Not cool.
I still enjoyed the heck out of the movie and would probably watch it with my family. I'm not sure they'd even notice! It bothers me that it's one of the default cheap laughs that anime tends to go for, though, and in this case the
explicit non-consent
e: I'll add - I get that they're fictional, imperfect characters; they shouldn't be perfect. But I think the movie already did a good job
showing that they were pushing each other's boundaries with stuff like setting each other up on dates / love confessions. I just think someone more creative than me - which the crew certainly is - could have found a different humor beat after Taki wakes back up in Mitsuha's body the final time. Hell, they could have joked about how he's not doing it this time.
Sexism (i.e. juvenile displays of female bodies for the sake of male titillation) =/= sexuality (i.e. human beings engaging in sexual activity for fun and/or reproduction). When we're talking about "anime fanservice", we're talking mostly about the former.
There is nothing "prudish" about disliking the former. It is simply a display of respect for human autonomy and the people who inhabit those feminine bodies. Objectifying women in the way many of these shows do is to disregard the agency of the characters in question and, well, just looking at the way they treat women in general should be enough to tell you that the problem is not merely "prudishness" - not unless you have trouble treating women as people in the first place.
I would actually be perfectly okay with seeing consensual romance and subsequent copulation treated in a mature fashion with actual purpose to the story being told. Just showing boobs and butts, however, most certainly does not come anywhere close to that. It's just laziness, pure and simple. And I fail to see the point of it in the first place when actual pornography is so easily accessible. Seriously, why even bother at this point?
Hmm, I don't remember it that well, only that it ended up being a running joke with the sister and what not. Considering the premise, it felt tame and not particularly skeevy when looked at in isolation, at least for the first time. But I suppose with the reputation anime has in mind, I guess I could see someone saying "Ugh, of course this is here"
Subpar Scrub
Banned
This.
Also, depends on how much the show embraces it. I'd recommend kill la kill but not strike witches or whatever.
It's weird how everyone's talking about KLK without mentioning that there were plenty of naked dudes involved in that show too.
Fanservice doesn't keep me from watching anime because I just watch things that don't have it. It's not as hard as you think.
It does bother me that shows that do have it are more popular and becoming the norm these days though.
I think of anime like any other artform and treating like it's only something lonely nerds watch just because you've noticed ecchi, seems silly.
I tend to only recommend stuff like Mononoke, Mushishi, Kaiba, or Aku No Hana
Fanservice doesn't keep me from watching anime because I just watch things that don't have it. It's not as hard as you think.
It does bother me that shows that do have it are more popular and becoming the norm these days though.
I think of anime like any other artform and treating like it's only something lonely nerds watch just because you've noticed ecchi, seems silly.
I tend to only recommend stuff like Mononoke, Mushishi, Kaiba, or Aku No Hana
It is for me
, Literally everything that has been reccomended to me in the last 2 years have been childish or had cringy fanservice.Like last semester I spent weeks trying to find new anime that wasnt like that.
i'd love some recommendations though because I still want to like anime
Generally, no, I wouldn't avoid suggesting a movie - live action or otherwise - because of a sex scene. And like I said above, I'd still probably watch Your Name with my family. I think that the movie might be in some ways improved without the second or third
boob-fondling scenes
The reason I say 'generally' is because I'm also going to consider the audience and the nature of the sex scene. I mentioned consent as an issue before - if a movie focuses graphically on non-consensual sex, I'm going to think before I recommend it, no matter how good it is. I'd probably want to discuss general themes ahead of time, or at least give a heads up / trigger warning. A lot of fan-service-y shows tend to throw their own wrinkles on various sexual taboos in as well, which I just sort of have to deal with on a case-by-case basis. I mean, Bakemonogatari can be a pretty fun show, but how the hell do you explain the toothbrush scene to anyone?
Poorly I'd imagine.
Yea. I'm a fan of light novel stories but the fan service makes me not pass them on.
Side note I'm currently watching eromanga sensei and it literally would be perfectly fine without the loli sister stuff and fan service. Have it be about a brother who writes light novels and his sister who secretly draws them
Side note I'm currently watching eromanga sensei and it literally would be perfectly fine without the loli sister stuff and fan service. Have it be about a brother who writes light novels and his sister who secretly draws them
Zelenogorsk
Banned
I once recommended Kill la Kill to a female coworker and let's just say that was the last time I recommended anime to anyone.
I think calling what's in Your name fanservice is a bit of a stretch, especially considering the content of the film.
GoldCrusader
Member
My Hero AcademiaIt is for me
Like last semester I spent weeks trying to find new anime that wasnt like that.
i'd love some recommendations though because I still want to like anime
Attack on Titan
Tsukigakirei
Tales of Zestiria the X
Ajin
Blame!
Kado
Little witch academia
Haikyu
Kuroko's basketball
Big Windup!
Baccano
All of top of my head. New and older stuff. How it can take weeks to find is baffling.
My favorite shows typically have very little to no fanservice. I dislike fanservice a great deal, and I wouldn't avoid recommending anime that has it (e.g. Space Dandy) just because it has it, but I'd typically avoid recommending those shows because I don't like them, period.
Kill la Kill is garbage.
I wouldn't say this is devoid of fanservice like some other shows in your list like Attack on Titan and Haikyuu. In fact, I find some of it in MHA unnecessarily distracting.
Kill la Kill is garbage.
I wouldn't say this is devoid of fanservice like some other shows in your list like Attack on Titan and Haikyuu. In fact, I find some of it in MHA unnecessarily distracting.
Zelenogorsk
Banned
Effing amazing shows.
Depending how strict he is, My Hero is not completely free of it, though it is infrequent.
Kuroko also has some occasional fanservice through that character Momoi
It is for me
Like last semester I spent weeks trying to find new anime that wasnt like that.
i'd love some recommendations though because I still want to like anime
To be fair, I don't watch as much as I used to. I'm starting to lose interest because things seem too generic now.
I mostly just watch older anime that I never got a chance to see. You might like The Magician's Bride OVA. There's a series coming out in the Fall.
It is for me
Like last semester I spent weeks trying to find new anime that wasnt like that.
i'd love some recommendations though because I still want to like anime
Ping Pong The Animation
Hyouka
Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu
All thoughtful shows that are devoid of fanservice. And as I said earlier in the thread:
Tsuki ga Kirei and The Eccentric Family are great so far, and Sakura Quest is merely good.
Took weeks because I couldnt find anything that I havent already seen that interested me lol. I used to watch ALOT of anime. Im kinda picky about art styles now though. That might be one of the main reasons I havent been able to find anything
Thanks! Ajin and Blame! look pretty interesting. Already saw Kuroko, Baccano, Attack on Titan, and Big Windup.
I dont really like romance though. Unless Aku no Hana counts ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
I saw some of My Hero Academia, didnt really like it for some reason. The fan service wasn't too much though.
The story sound good, ill check it out. Thanks!
Ping Pong looks interesting
Saw Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, It was good
Eccentric Family, and Sakura Quest dont sound like the type of thing that I would be interest in sadly. Cool that they dont have fan service though.
This has nothing to do with fan service but I really wish something like Ghost in the Shell, Shigurui, Berserk (the original show) or Ergo Proxy would come out . Something atleast a little less light hearted.
Yep. Last year I watched this French animated series called Lastman. It has more sex and nudity than pretty much any anime I've seen (I don't watch hentai), but I had 0 problem with it.
I'm not going to say it's some paragon of feminist values, I'm sure you could point out problematic elements with it too. However, I feel like it approaches the subject a million times better than all those fan-servicey anime, for a couple of reasons:
1. It's adults having sex. There's no creepy objectification of little girls.
2. The show doesn't use groping as a joke (*ahem*
the seven deadly sins
3. The characters are actually having sex rather than just objectifying characters during completely unrelated scenes (looking at you Sword Art Online, among a ton of others) by showing close up shots of jiggly boobs and panties. It just feels much more honest.
BTW the show is awesome so definitely check it out if you understand French, or check it out whenever they release English subs.
It looks great. Any fansubs available?