Different type of game. Destiny set the precedent for itself by releasing expansions (The Taken King). This is way more in line with that (and in some ways a step back) than what people would expect by putting the number 2 on it.How is it not a sequel? Does that mean gears of war 2 was really 1.5?
I find it interesting how both this and Splatoon 2 have struggled to shake off the label of not being a true sequel.
Sounds like they both fell into the trap of intentionally not making too many changes, because they would piss off loyal players... but at the same time not doing enough to appeal to new or lapsed players.
Its a do-over.
Like Jim Sterling mentions in his Destiny 2 review, both Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2 are what their game debuts should have been. Sounds about right to me.
So nothing...Different type of game. Destiny set the precedent for itself by releasing expansions (The Taken King). This is way more in line with that (and in some ways a step back) than what people would expect by putting the number 2 on it.
Meh, by most peoples definitions of "sequel" in this thread, few games if any are ever actual "Sequels."
Its really a dumb question to even ask.
Is CoD a sequel? Is Wolfenstein? Is TitanFall? I mean come on....
For Destiny yes,It has the content of 5 or 6 expansions.
Its a do-over.
Like Jim Sterling mentions in his Destiny 2 review, both Titanfall 2 and Destiny 2 are what their game debuts should have been. Sounds about right to me.
I've changed my stance to sequel.
It's mainly the graphical updates (no matter how slight) and the actual cutscenes and story this ti,e.
A sequel that plays it very safe. There is too much content in the game to call it just an expansion. It has four brand new planets (returning planet with no area) to explore, large campaign, tons of new weapons, many quests, five new strikes, whole new set of maps, whole new raid and so on.
It's enough content to warrant a whole new game. It just seems ignorant to call it just an expansion.
As a casual Destiny player, D2 feels like an expansion pack to me. Yes, it has new environments, guns, missions, etc, but fundamentally to me it looks, feels and plays like the first game. There are no new enemy races, no fourth class, no radically different weapon types, no vehicle modes, few new game types, no major new PvE game modes, no new species, no major gameplay additions ala Halo 2, Halo 4, Halo 5, etc.
Halo isn't a co-op loot game though.Most of the things you mentioned don't exist in the Halo sequels either, in certain cases (like enemy races or weapon types or "fourth classes"), the Halo sequels are significantly worse.
I completely disagree. In my view, the changes from Halo 1 to Halo 2, and from Halo 3 to Halo 4, are so obvious and substantial that I honestly cannot imagine NeoGAF spending page after page figuring out whether Halo 2 feels like an expansion pack. The question would never arise.Most of the things you mentioned don't exist in the Halo sequels either, in certain cases (like enemy races or weapon types or "fourth classes"), the Halo sequels are significantly worse.
Do you consider the following games to be expansions or sequels?
-Assassin's Creed 2
-Uncharted 3
-Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
It feels like a continuation of the first one but the actual experience is much improved like a sequel should be.
I just can't take posts like this seriously.Feels like DLC
I just can't take posts like this seriously.
It couldn't have been done as DLC due to the graphical and system changes alone.
Totally ridiculous to the point of me questioning whether you've actually even played the games.
They could still have done exactly what FFXIV did with their latest expansion,I give them the benefit of the doubt because the PS3/360 compatibility locked them out of expanding on that even further, so I hope that with D2, all they released are full sized expansions to D2 in the future.
I really don't get the people saying graphical upgrades either, lot of stuff looks so washed out compared to the first, lighting is terrible and especially the player characters can look terrible now.
Really can't agree to this. I played the shit out of Destiny 1 and immediately noticed the improved lighting in Destiny 2. When it gets the HDR patched in it will be amazing.
As far as your character transfer from Destiny 1 into 2, yea that looks not so good. Maybe there's an issue with that process they didn't test out or spend much time on.
I was really really hoping for new classes, but we didnt' even get that. I'd say overall it feels like an expansion. There are a lot of QOL improvements, but all in all the gameplay feels almost exactly the same, especially since 90% of the enemies are exactly the same.