You guys are complaining about this NOW?
Try 2005
Oh god, this was/is so wretched. I remember when people on gaf were actually impressed by this garbage.
The example in the op is pretty TRI-hard too, imo.
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Does Nintendo Treehouse rely on memes too much? (Tri Force Heroes Localization)
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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Oh god, this was/is so wretched. I remember when people on gaf were actually impressed by this garbage.
The example in the op is pretty TRI-hard too, imo.
KirbYuuYuu
Member
To be fair for that example, that happened at a time many of us would be teens and were more naive, stupid and easily led compared to our current selves.
Although damn, that does put in perspective just how old that is.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Now I really want to see "ayy lmao" in a Nintendo game.
I have this thread to thank for that. I'm going to be disappointed if it doesn't eventually happen.
I have this thread to thank for that. I'm going to be disappointed if it doesn't eventually happen.
It really sucks because their localizations are otherwise excellent. No idea why they feel the need to slip these lazy unfunny references in.
Like, they have the privilege of localizing a Zelda game, and they work really hard on the script, and then they're like "man we just HAVE to cram a joke about the internet dog in here"?
Like, they have the privilege of localizing a Zelda game, and they work really hard on the script, and then they're like "man we just HAVE to cram a joke about the internet dog in here"?
7DollarHagane
Banned
Nintendo of America is terrible, surprise
It's The BitBlock, this is all he does on Twitter but make a big deal about the tiniest things. He is a die-hard purest about some subjects.
Over a tiny handful of dialogue boxes and not present in a majority of their work?
7DollarHagane
Banned
Over the last 30 years of treatment of their customers actually
That has nothing to do with the thread at all.
I'm fine with stuff like this in silly RPGs and Zelda spinoffs. But I'm kinda worried that this might extend to stuff like Xenoblade X. It's a Takahashi game and Takahashi loves his weird shit. I can see Treehouse going "yeah we're not leaving THAT in!" considering that one of them literally said something like that already during a Nintendo stream and we already know that several references to religious/philosophical things have already been slightly altered or removed. The term "Logos" was removed from one of the acronyms in the game for example, when from what I know about plot spoilers its actually kind of major foreshadowing. Like, imagine if the word "Monado" was taken out of the original Xenoblade because a localizer thought the audience wouldn't get it. I'm worried that content in the game might be altered/removed too given Nintendo's recent track record but that's another issue entirely.
Basically I'm fine with the examples here. But when a localization company is willing to change content for what they think is better it worries me that they might do so in cases where adherence to the original script, even if said script is dry or a little weird, actually matters for the overall package.
Basically I'm fine with the examples here. But when a localization company is willing to change content for what they think is better it worries me that they might do so in cases where adherence to the original script, even if said script is dry or a little weird, actually matters for the overall package.
NoA will find a way.
Kamui: hey flora...what you smoking?
Flora: D:<
Kamui: ayy lmao
Flora: D:<
Kamui: ayy lmao
8-4 is handling localization. And I seriously doubt Treehouse would insert memes into a game that's as serious as Xenoblade X.
If there was ever a new Wario game, I could actually hear Wario saying aaayyyy.
To be fair 8-4 has put memes into their games too from time to time. Usually not as egregious though.
I'm not worried about memes in Xenoblade's case, but I am worried about the practice of changing lines or game elements to fit the audience when we're talking about a Takahashi game.
meltingparappa
Member
True, John TV already mentioned a bit of that about Monster Hunter earlier in the thread and explained why it was done.
Localized your comment there.
Joking aside, that character was one of the most popular in the game, and said localization actually made sense with his back story, so I respectfully disagree with your assertion. We don't use memes for the sake of using memes, but in MH, there is a lot of wackiness in the Japanese that is sometimes suitable for this sort of treatment. That keikaku thing wasn't dropped in for a quick laugh, his entire character is based on him being from overseas and mixing native vocab into his lines. It was a pittari fit!
That said...you can't please everyone. There's always the Japanese version!
PS - I love adorbs, it makes sense in the context of TFH (which people should really play before criticizing the localization).
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Ah, right that. That's always going to be difficult cause nothing is going to translate exact. Some are already angry just because B.L.A.D.E. name was altered slightly to better fit English because before it was a jumbled mess of words that make no sense.
ayy lmao
well fucking executed right there
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I like both
There needs to be a robot alien boss in Star Fox Zero that fizzles out before dropping the ayy lmao on everyone.
Beelzebufo
Banned
That's why SF0 was delayed. That's Falco's new catchphrase too.
Fox: Status report
Slippy: Wow! We did it!
Peppy: Somehow we made it through!
Falco: ayy lmao
Nah, Falco's new phrase will be bruh. If Falco isn't around and Peppy or whoever does something, someone could comment "that ain't Falco!"
Nose Master
Member
Memes have a shelf life of about three days. Writing them into anything that should stand the test of time is asking for cringe.
People still love the pepes tho. Memes come and go then come back hard and leave again. It's circular.
Nose Master
Member
Do they?
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I feel like using memes is pretty low quality pandering and usually a sign of some poor writing. I could live with it though, and certainly have in some games I've played. On occasion they've actually even been funny. The biggest thing I'm not a fan of with memes is their short lifespan and that their insertion into scripts could cause them to be ridiculously dated.
I guess that doesn't matter with a game like TFH, but still.
I guess that doesn't matter with a game like TFH, but still.
SenorArdilla
Member
HUGE GAME SPOILERS
I still see pepes. It's really circular, while a meme will die they come back to life with a new generation. Doge meme is coming back, like in Undertale, and that doge also has a very long neck like longcat type stuff.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Thanks for the spoiler.
SenorArdilla
Member
Edited. Thanks for the heads up.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
That's a spoiler? You can possibly see it literally 20-minutes into the game, if playing online.
That thing that you know will happen actually does happen in a game that has almost no meaningful story or plot development
FriedConsole
Banned
Why does everyone freak out about memes in games? I hate memes and I don't care. Is it because people are into memes and when put in a game makes it uncool?
Please. I'm so glad we're finally free after so many years of 'moms', 'elevators' and 'yeehaws'. We now have a script that actually is in the English indicated by the Union Flag on language select screens.
Pic semi related:
I love how American English is (Simplified) :lol
That game is riddled with shit writing. And there are no shortage of amazing writers out there. Being a bad writer is not a simple case of "underperforming" as you so kindly put it, it is a lack of talent. Improving will take a lot of time, and using these games as practice is not acceptable.
You guys are complaining about this NOW?
Try 2005
Is this a meme or just general leetspeak?
March of the Crabs
Member
That quote is annoying in the OP but overall the NA localization is actually pretty funny so far.
...I need this. :lol
I think this thread is roughly on the same page when it comes to what type of memes this is about. The term technically is extremely broad so asking for no memes at all in games would basically be impossible. The question mark block is a meme. Coins are a meme. Mushrooms are a meme. We have a collective understanding of what they mean just by seeing them.
That's why I think the problem here really is the just example in the OP and not much else (let's remember josh from blocks of bits isn't posting here so his overreaction has no reflection here).
So less of a case of 'no [internet] memes in games' and more 'doge is stupid I never want to see it again'.
Kanhir
Member
The EU diaries strike me as being from the perspective of a pretentious wannabe writer (the diary writer, not the game writer):
Tri Force Heroes said:
So I think the text in the OP being dry and wordy is sort of the point - it's characterisation. None of the other characters in the game (the EU version, at least) talk like that.
TheMoon
Member
There's no spoiler. What. OMG you save the day at the end. Wow.
This reminds me of something Caaaww said about the recent things we've gotten from Xenoblade X, in that the NA version so far sounds more accurate to the original JP while the EU localization is way too wordy like what I'm reading here in your example.
I don't get the meddling experiments one from Fire Emblem...
This thread, by the way... HAHA
Scooby-Dooby Doo, where are you? It's the catch phrase of the villains in the show. "And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids."
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
but there are no aliens in FE!
With that said Rosalina fits ayy lmao well. Imagine Mario squealing "ayy le-mao, it's-ah Rosalina!" with a thick stereotypical italian accent.
leetspeak is a meme
or was
plenty of things we thought aren't memes were memes too