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Does Wifi affect your sleep?
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888
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That is why I labeled it "Unscientific". Like it was said above, maybe it was my Wife's snoring for years that made me not sleep deep enough.
Randomizer123454444
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Sorry about being nitpicky, but wouldn't this be a nocebo effect?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo#Response
It is very possible to feel worse because you think you should feel worse. Part about wife is coincidence or confirmation bias I think.
888
Member
When I turn off my Wifi I get one other broadcast that has one bar from a neighbor. My SSIDs are the only ones with any real strength.
888
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You know what I mean =)
Thanks for the laugh.
I can always count on GAF to make me laugh about things.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
First thing I thought of and now I have to look up Morgellons.
888
Member
I read right up until my head hits the pillow no matter the Wifi on or off. She never stays up and reads on her phone while in bed.
PetriP-TNT
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Sometimes I start surfing the interweb on the bed with my phone and won't go to sleep so yeah
Your wife stayed up to keep watching Netflix right before going to bed? Yeah, I can think of another reason why your wife was snoring and not rested that night. Also, does she watch Netflix on a laptop/tablet in bed?
How much time is there typically between looking at a bright screen or other bright light and actually sleeping for you and your wife would you say?
T
Transhuman
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Long term wifi exposure turns your pancreas into a wifi extender.
888
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I never had a problem going to sleep and staying asleep. I guess the quality of sleep was what I was targeting for me. I can pretty much sleep anywhere. But like some said, maybe my Wife just stopped snoring during that very specific time frame that allowed me to sleep deeper and dream.
PetriP-TNT
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I have huuuuge issues with sleeping in general (waking up multiple times during the night, not being able to fall asleep...) but I haven't found any connection to Wi-Fi myself.
888
Member
She stayed up to watch Netflix one time, she is usually in bed by 9. She doesn't use tablets or phones in bed. She was watching Netflix downstairs with company we had that night. Up until last night when I added the Wifi schedule back she was snoring and I went to the other room. Last night not one snore. Just weird timing I guess.
Dot Matrix
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I dunno, maybe there is something to it. We put a baby monitor in our daughters' room and we get woken up multiple times a night now. Coincidence?
Ultimadrago
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Yes, when my Wi-Fi is on, I get no sleep.
I also get no exercise.
And no friends.
I also get no exercise.
And no friends.
I would try to think of other patterns that could cause poor rest. There might be things you're not even aware of currently. Of course we can't tell anything because we're only getting a small piece of the story. However, there is no factual evidence for WiFi signals specifically affecting people in some way.
Always-honest
Banned
Nah man, you're imagining things. We know nothing about you. We're not secretly watching you like some Truman Show shit. That's just movies man. And your "girlfriend" is not involved in our little sceme (should you ever think that). When she goes out it's just for normal stuff, like groceries. Just keep doing what you are doing and do not, i repeat, do not open your router because there will be nothing to see there. Also, that lamp is a normal lamp. Trust me.
fuck guys, who screwed up?
The Incarnation
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All heat is at the same temperature, right?
888
Member
We have the same bed, same temps, same type of food, same exercise pattern (Me anyways). I would be curious to see what is causing it. Maybe I will flip on and off the wifi and stand over her while she sleeps to monitor for snoring =)
Shuggananas
Banned
The sun was put up there by the governments to give us skin cancer
I get headaches and feel groggier than usual if I don't turn on airplane mode on my phone.
There's precedence for negative effects of wi-fi and mobile networks:
Radio frequencies and extremely low-frequency electromagnetic fields negatively impact the brain-blood-barrier and cognitive function in human and animal studies, causing brain tissue damage and possibly even Alzheimers disease (study, study, study, study).
Secondly, exposure to cell phone radiation upregulates genes, causes free radical damage, behavior problems, headaches, fatigue, and disturbs sleep cycles (study, study, study, study, study).
The researchers in this human study, saw that long-term exposure to base stations and mobile phones caused significant decreases in testosterone and thyroid hormone levels.
This study found out that in male wistar rats, exposure to mobile phone radiation lowers testosterone levels in a dose-dependent manner. Meaning that more exposure leads to less testosterone.
This study shows how exposure to mobile networks and electromagnetic radiation leads to decreased number of leydig cells in rat testes, this then led to significantly lower testosterone levels.
This human study found out that extensive mobile phone use leads to low thyroid hormone levels and can contribute to hypothyroidism. This isnt a good thing as hypothyroidism is linked to lower testosterone levels.
This in-vitro study found out that when human sperm is altered to Wi-Fi radiation in a Petri dish, its literally fried. However this doesnt automatically mean that similar effects would happen inside the human body, but as we know, the radiation is able to penetrate the human tissue, so why wouldnt it happen inside the ball sack too.
The researchers in this Saudi-Arabian study, found out that mobile networks disrupt sleep patterns in human subjects, leading to poor sleep quality and irregular REM induction. It goes without saying that this will severely lower your testosterone levels.
Video from expert Olle Johansson.
More.
I keep an open mind but I can't ignore feeling like shit specifically on mornings when I don't have airplane mode on. I'd chalk it up to coincidence but it literally only happens those times.
There's precedence for negative effects of wi-fi and mobile networks:
Radio frequencies and extremely low-frequency electromagnetic fields negatively impact the brain-blood-barrier and cognitive function in human and animal studies, causing brain tissue damage and possibly even Alzheimers disease (study, study, study, study).
Secondly, exposure to cell phone radiation upregulates genes, causes free radical damage, behavior problems, headaches, fatigue, and disturbs sleep cycles (study, study, study, study, study).
The researchers in this human study, saw that long-term exposure to base stations and mobile phones caused significant decreases in testosterone and thyroid hormone levels.
This study found out that in male wistar rats, exposure to mobile phone radiation lowers testosterone levels in a dose-dependent manner. Meaning that more exposure leads to less testosterone.
This study shows how exposure to mobile networks and electromagnetic radiation leads to decreased number of leydig cells in rat testes, this then led to significantly lower testosterone levels.
This human study found out that extensive mobile phone use leads to low thyroid hormone levels and can contribute to hypothyroidism. This isnt a good thing as hypothyroidism is linked to lower testosterone levels.
This in-vitro study found out that when human sperm is altered to Wi-Fi radiation in a Petri dish, its literally fried. However this doesnt automatically mean that similar effects would happen inside the human body, but as we know, the radiation is able to penetrate the human tissue, so why wouldnt it happen inside the ball sack too.
The researchers in this Saudi-Arabian study, found out that mobile networks disrupt sleep patterns in human subjects, leading to poor sleep quality and irregular REM induction. It goes without saying that this will severely lower your testosterone levels.
Video from expert Olle Johansson.
More.
I keep an open mind but I can't ignore feeling like shit specifically on mornings when I don't have airplane mode on. I'd chalk it up to coincidence but it literally only happens those times.
And you rightly should. Without meaning to sound dismissive I guess a fitting pun is "whatever makes you sleep at night". Problem is, I guess the benefits will eventually diminish as you stop consciously making a note that the Wifi is off.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah, but this topic is about Wifi, right? Or are you saying it's probably the cellphone in general?
Sucks that you have this by the way.
why not set up a more formalized experiment condition?
track occurences, eliminate variables... forward onto researchers with findings for larger sample size.
With the mechanisms involved however, there's no clear causal relationship between what you're experiencing at the wifi signal itself.
track occurences, eliminate variables... forward onto researchers with findings for larger sample size.
With the mechanisms involved however, there's no clear causal relationship between what you're experiencing at the wifi signal itself.
Weight, stress and diet play a big factor. Obviously if you are really zonked out you will potentially snore.. But snoring can also be due to body/head position.
I lost 25lb and my snoring disappeared.
Not drinking caffiene past 11am (i still do 3-4times a month, but i used to do it daily.), changing my diet, not eating red sauces, lower sodium intake and not eating late decreased acid reflux, which in turn was waking me up. Caffeine can contribute to loosening of the stomach valve, so if you aren't sleeping on an incline, it can creep up.
Long story short its a combination of things. You should have your wife see an ear-nose-throat specialist to get her nasal/throat scoped to see if she is an esophageal cancer risk, which is a silent killer (due to reflux happening during sleep mentioned above).
What most people realize, especially here in the USA is that losing weight and eating a semi healthy diet (not over eating) solves a majority of most peoples health problems that would require medication as a temporary fix. Like for example I really do not eat out that much ( I also love to cook, but that's not the point). But when I do I am watchful/mindful of what I eat.
My $.02
I lost 25lb and my snoring disappeared.
Not drinking caffiene past 11am (i still do 3-4times a month, but i used to do it daily.), changing my diet, not eating red sauces, lower sodium intake and not eating late decreased acid reflux, which in turn was waking me up. Caffeine can contribute to loosening of the stomach valve, so if you aren't sleeping on an incline, it can creep up.
Long story short its a combination of things. You should have your wife see an ear-nose-throat specialist to get her nasal/throat scoped to see if she is an esophageal cancer risk, which is a silent killer (due to reflux happening during sleep mentioned above).
What most people realize, especially here in the USA is that losing weight and eating a semi healthy diet (not over eating) solves a majority of most peoples health problems that would require medication as a temporary fix. Like for example I really do not eat out that much ( I also love to cook, but that's not the point). But when I do I am watchful/mindful of what I eat.
My $.02
888
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Topic is mainly wifi but cell phone use research is what lead me to the wifi theory. I am on the phone a lot so I was trying to figure out a better hands free method. Wired headsets vs Bluetooth. Apparently wired headsets allow the radiation to travel up the cable to your head regardless, I don't know to what degree but I guess a copper cable that is plugged into your phone, it would kinda make sense but I still use them as it is more comfortable than holding my cell phone to my head for long periods of time.
You need to ignore the complete nonsense you're reading.
888
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I don't drink anything besides water, I have worked out and lost 15lbs and 5 inches total from working out. Could be why I am sleeping better but I have been doing that for a solid year now.
She has gone up in weight and has seen doctor for thyroid issues and was diagnosed with a goiter. She had a FNA to check for cancer and it came back clear, during that time she was snoring and the doctor suggested sleep apnea study, it was around that time that I was also researching Hyper vs Hypo thyroidisim and effects of bluetooth on it because she wears one of those LG bluetooth headsets all day long for a year straight and it pretty much hugs the thyroid. It was part of what lead me to research headsets and cell phone use.
Her Thyroid levels are fine but she still has an enlarged thyroid which could cause the snoring, but that hasn't gone down and she stopped snoring during these specific time frames of me messing with the wireless. Like it was suggested, maybe I will set this up and make a more indepth experiment out of it.
spindashing
Banned
Haha I can't wait for more.
888
Member
Yes and this doesn't make sense on why it would help her snoring. That is another reason I am scratching my head.
No you don't.
PeskyToaster
Member
Most of the time open-minded means "I'm not going to budge from my beliefs that are routinely proven false because I read a website"
Ignoring an entire post worth of studies to "refute" all of it without any evidence of your own. Keep it classy.
I don't believe any electromagnetic signals could cause any significant damage but they definitely have effects on the body.
PandaShake
Member
The days your wife snores less lets you have a better, deeper sleep letting you dream or remember the dream is what I'm guessing. Other than that, I don't think it's wifi related.
Mammoth Jones
Member
Only when I leave Youtube streaming and fall asleep.
Sometimes I hop on one foot and then cars go by my house. Do you think there might be a relation?
You should hand your phone to someone and tell them to turn airplane mode on/off intermittently without telling you, and see if you still suffer those effects consistently.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
*Green is Wifi
888
Member
Oh this gives me an idea. I will have my buddy remote log into my router and disable/enable the wifi randomly during the week nights.
That way I am not aware of it and it very well could prove the whole thing is a sham.
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