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I bet that after you beat the final Tiki boss K. Rool comes out as the real final boss.
It's still true though!
Twig said:
It's still true though!
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Donkey Kong Country Returns announced [N-CONF]
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Genesis Knight
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In honor of this announcement - even though I don't/won't own a Wii - I have broken out my trust copy of the best game in the franchise: DKC2. Gotta get those DK coins!
redbarchetta
Banned
Twig said:
I played the game, silly. It strikes me as little more of a balance than DK Jungle Beat was. I rather enjoyed the game, but that doesn't mean a few more call-backs can't be made. The lack of Kremlings is but just one factor, but I appreciate you assuming as if it was my entire argument. Off the top of my head: the lack of any familiar enemies, missing animal friends (which may or may not be in the final game), the complete absence of water levels, and some general gameplay control issues that don't quite jive with the original.
ETA: Mario Galaxy really nailed the proper balance of retro-references to modern updates, imo. And it came after the (imo disappointing) Mario Sunshine, which aside from the core cast of characters, had almost no references to previous games--no power-ups, all new enemies, etc.
DieNgamers
Member
Where are you in the game? I started a new one last week and had a blast once again.Cyan said:
It aged with grace and still looks great, imo. 
I'm in the lava world now!
Buckethead
Banned
I hated 90% of the water levels in DKC1-3, so I'm not really broken up about it.
I'm more concerned with the game taking itself too seriously and not having the
cheeky Rare sense of humor in it. That and Dixie rocking on guitar and Diddy with the boombox.
I'm more concerned with the game taking itself too seriously and not having the
cheeky Rare sense of humor in it. That and Dixie rocking on guitar and Diddy with the boombox.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Kremlings were stupid like most of Rare's designs. Diddy Kong is a wonderful little abomination by their standards.
redbarchetta
Banned
Buckethead said:
I feel like the water levels are there for pacing reasons, more than anything else. They are, by design, slower than the more action-heavy levels. That, combined with the wonderful visuals and music almost made them calming--a welcomed break from the more conventional set pieces.
Buckethead
Banned
redbarchetta said:
I'll give you that, however I think the bee hive and ice cave levels had a similar effect.
We'll see how it goes.
Then your attitude here makes even less sense than those who haven't.redbarchetta said:
There's absolutely no reason to include old enemies in this new game if they don't want to.
I'll agree on the animal buddies, because they were one of the few unique things about DKC, but there's no reason thus far to think that there won't be a similar mechanic in this game. And, unlike the underwater levels, which were terrible, there's no reason to get rid of the animal buddies (or - the mechanic).
Your incessant nostalgia-fueled desire to play the same game that came out years ago is what is "ruining" this for you. Nothing more, nothing less.
I ain't assuming shit. Kremlings are symbolic of your entire argument, and my response extends to any other complaint you have. Except, as mentioned above, the animal buddies.
redbarchetta
Banned
Twig said:
Coming from someone who hasn't played the game? How does being more informed lessen my opinion?
Twig said:
Oh, I see--so if the developer wants something a certain way, then they're objectively right and can't be disagreed with? By that measure, every game would be perfect. I have a right to want more from my games, and you have a right not to.
Twig said:
Sure there is, by virtue that nothing along those lines has been shown yet. This isn't concrete proof in any way, of course, but it does hint more strongly toward that than not.
Twig said:
Pray tell where did I use the word "ruining," or anything even close to that? Please don't put words in my mouth--ones that are gross exaggerations, no less. In fact, I said quite the opposite when I stated that " I rather enjoyed the game. "Also, I like how a few posts is considered "incessant" :lol
Twig said:
Your exact question suggests otherwise: "Because it doesn't have fucking Kremlings?"
That aside, I'm not sure why you're arguing with me on this. I feel like they could go a bit further than they did, you don't. We're not going to change each other's minds, so why bother trying?
Hmmm. I'll admit I have probably been too hostile in my quote-unquote debate with you, and for that I apologize. It wasn't my intention to do so. Text fails to express the tone of my statements, and I tend to exaggerate more than is safe on the interwebs.
I have counter-arguments to the things you are saying, but I think it's better if we just agree to disagree. :3
EDIT: Damnit your edit beat me to it. ):
I have counter-arguments to the things you are saying, but I think it's better if we just agree to disagree. :3
EDIT: Damnit your edit beat me to it. ):
redbarchetta
Banned
Twig said:
Right on; no hard feelings =)
Like I said, it's still a really fun game and I'm looking forward to it.
To honour the (momentarily I hope)absent Kremlings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW6xqrabrYo
Krook's March: my favourite tune from DKC2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW6xqrabrYo
Krook's March: my favourite tune from DKC2
redbarchetta
Banned
Kurtofan said:To honour the (momentarily I hope)absent Kremlings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW6xqrabrYo
Krook's March: my favourite tune from DKC2
Damn that game had great music; hopefully that song returns in, umm, Returns =)
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
emulating Aquatic Ambiance would be a titanic task, expecially for the music, same goes for Stickerbrush Symphony. Jesus Christ Rare's musical talent was impressive
redbarchetta
Banned
Boney said:
No. At least not when used with the Wiimote + Nunchuk configuration, which was the only was on display.
I miss it too (but it may be used in the NES-style configuration)
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
redbarchetta
Banned
JaseC said:
Star Fox Adventures did the same thing. 'nuff said.
_Alkaline_
Member
JaseC said:
Oh god it would be like Star Fox Adventures all over again.
Do not want.
redbarchetta said:
_Alkaline_ said:
I have not played Star Fox Adventures, but having K. Rool show up as the final boss would be a huge cop out after months of "Hey dudes, no crocs in this game!" and, as a result, hilarious. :lol
Additional points for New Game+ mode having Kremlings in place of the Tikis.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
JaseC said:
so right, son
redbarchetta
Banned
Boney said:What the hell, my DKC2 main file is gone
There's a 2 player one I started in January with a friend, and only that.. I was going to go for the coins. So annoyed right now.
I just started a new file last night and blew through a 1/3 of the game in 40 minutes. It's not so bad =)
redbarchetta
Banned
Boney said:
Yeah, I've noticed some of my old SNES cartridges will delete saves randomly. Even odder, with Mario RPG, none of the saves appeared a few times, but turning if off and back on restored them! Unfortunately, I lost them all for good a few months ago--damn cartridge batteries...
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Man this game is gonna be incredible!
A dark horse for my GOTY me thinks.
A dark horse for my GOTY me thinks.
toastyToast
Member
Cyan said:
DKC2 is way harder than I remembered as well. I'm quite sure I made my way through the whole game on my own when I was 8, I feel ashamed of myself. Bramble Scramble is driving me absolutely mad, playing it I think I had my first actual rage quit. I tried out the Lost World, it is truly what nightmares are made of.
I'm going to miss all the enemy crocs making the same cry when you defeat them.
robor
Member
Retro Studios is showing to be an extremely dynamic developer. I'm just absolutely shocked by the sheer transition from the Prime series to this, it's startling. They're the most integral developer right next to HAL Labs imo.
If there's anything I could change about this up coming game, it would be to remove "Returns" from the title for something else. It just sounds silly to me.
If there's anything I could change about this up coming game, it would be to remove "Returns" from the title for something else. It just sounds silly to me.
Kyleripman
Member
IGN's hate for the Kremlings and the Kong family in particular is baffling. They seriously didn't like DIXIE KONG?
abstract alien
Member
I seriously think Retro will have some other form of "alternate" level that replaces the underwater ones. I mean, they can't say they have paid this much attention to the older games only to simply take out one of the most memorable aspects without replacing it with something just as good. I just can't believe they would do it...rather, I don't want to believe they would lolSalz01 said:
I've been thinking some sort of sky level for a while now, but I'm not sure how.
Kyleripman
Member
I also wonder why IGN doesn't think there will be animal buddies simply due to multiplayer. Yoshis worked out fine in NSMB Wii.
I'm not worried about Retro not being able to add their own creativity and flair; I think we've already seen that in spades. The game's going to be a blast. But having other Kong characters adds so much to the world - it really is Donkey Kong COUNTRY, not just Donkey Kong on an island all alone (or with Diddy). The world-building aspects of the old games really appealed to me; I hope it isn't just tossed out the window.
I'm not worried about Retro not being able to add their own creativity and flair; I think we've already seen that in spades. The game's going to be a blast. But having other Kong characters adds so much to the world - it really is Donkey Kong COUNTRY, not just Donkey Kong on an island all alone (or with Diddy). The world-building aspects of the old games really appealed to me; I hope it isn't just tossed out the window.
toasty_T said:
I'm replaying them in order on the Wii right now. I'm about halfway through DKC and while most of the levels are pretty easy, my ass got kicked by the first mine cart level. Died probably 15 times before I got through it.
I'm finally getting to the barrel stuff that I remember being the best stuff in the game and it is fantastic. That is really where the game shines. The platforming is decent, but the timed barrel blasts is what really set the series apart in my opinion.
Looking forward to DKC2 as I recall that having easily the best levels of the series.
Also, the boss fights in the game are really, really lame :lol
Let me guess. You're sexually attracted to this monstrosity.Kyleripman said:
A fucking abomination. This thing is straight up offensive to anyone who appreciates even a modicum of good art design. It is shameful that this ever came out of anything related to Nintendo. Someone needs to be punished for this horrendous creature's mere existence as a fictional character in a video game.