TheSpoiler
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Had this happen years ago when a friend fixing my computer tripped over the power cord.
Fuck me.
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Don't unplug your PS4 while it is on
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Had this happen years ago when a friend fixing my computer tripped over the power cord.
Fuck me.
No. Plenty of electronic devices can be unplugged safely while on. Like my Toaster, or a TV. Actually, most electronics can be unplugged safely while turned on, it's really only computers that are an issue.
Most consoles, historically at least, actually don't really have an issue with being unplugged suddenly. That's pretty much how the power buttons on them worked. Consoles needing to safely power down is a fairly new development that started with the PS3/360, and even those two consoles could be unplugged safely as long as you weren't updating or download something - and if you were only the downloaded item would get corrupted, I believe.
Apparently, his PS4 has the nifty feature of doing firmware updates in the background, and that's why it got corrupted.
CollectedDust
Member
Same, this is so comical to me.
Same. Well, not 'yanking the cable out', but I've accidentally turned switches off while things are still on (rarely - my GF does it all the fucking time).
My PS4 has had its power disconnected tens of times due to my GF turning all the plugs off at night.
It's always fine once I turn it on and it checks the hard drive - but perhaps your PS4 was updating system software. In which case, nae luck man.
"hello darkness my old friend"
This. I've had a couple of instances where a game has hard-locked the console and I've had to remove the console from the power source. It reboots in safe mode, checks the hard drive, and then gives you a vaguely passive-aggressive message about turning the console off properly next time.
The likelihood of completely bricking your consoles each time this happens doesn't seem particularly high, unless you're exceptionally unlucky and it happens in those rare moments where the console is doing sonething important in the background.
Precisely.
It should still absolutely be avoided, obviously, but OP's PS4 must have been doing some important stuff when he yanked it.
first time I ever heard of a console doing this
For emphasis:
What if the light goes out?
I wouldn't recommend taking the battery out of a laptop mid-Windows update.
He said his console "turns itself on" which is what a PS4 does when the settings are set up automatically update. That's some important stuff.
If only there was a way to disable that feature instead of cutting the power during every update...
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So if I record myself unplugging my PS4 multiple times with no issue does that make OP a dirty, filthy liar.
this has to be sarcasm.
Messofanego
Banned
*sarcasm detector not required*
:L
Like most electronics, you can pull the cord as long as it isn't doing anything that shouldn't be interrupted at all. Ie writing to drives. Not that I recommend it.
If you do happen to pull it during one of those times, well, prepare for headaches, as it most likely caused corruption.
I actually stopped leaving it in rest mode for a while because my power was just too unstable for a few months last year. It's still working fine though despite the power being cut while it was in rest mode.
Like most electronics, you can pull the cord as long as it isn't doing anything that shouldn't be interrupted at all. Ie writing to drives. Not that I recommend it.
If you do happen to pull it during one of those times, well, prepare for headaches, as it most likely caused corruption.
I actually stopped leaving it in rest mode for a while because my power was just too unstable for a few months last year. It's still working fine though despite the power being cut while it was in rest mode.
Congrats, you are the reason IT people hate programmers. When you force power cycle a HDD you can force the head to stop in a jerking motion, possibly damaging the head or drive. You can also have the drive stop in the middle of writing a system file. This will cause OS corruption. I've had to replace a ton of Windows installs at my job because drug reps don't follow proper procedures with their laptops and do things like pull the battery to shut it off. I would like to to film this video, but do it over and over again while running files, and using system functions. Then do a SMART scan of your drive. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up with bad sectors. (An SSD may have better luck with surviving, but that has a lot more to do with write speed.)
I'm late to this discussion, but there is no reason the PS4 should be doing anything that would corrupt the system if a hard power loss occurs during sleep mode.
Yeah its still a bad idea, but that doesn't change poor OS design.
Corruption during power interruption should never be a concern, even during a firmware update (just fail back to the previous firmware).
Yeah its still a bad idea, but that doesn't change poor OS design.
Corruption during power interruption should never be a concern, even during a firmware update (just fail back to the previous firmware).
If you're afraid of something like that happening, buy a UPS. This is a physical limitation of hard drives, and the only way for Sony to have had any sort of countermeasure would have been to include a battery in the unit, increasing cost and potentially size. Seriously GAF, not everything done by the end user id defensible.
It never updates in the background. Also, I can't unplug my TV while it updates.
nkarafo
Member
System restore only backups the OS and some affected files. I said this because when things like this happen to a PC, you don't lose the rest of your data. Just because the PC got shut down during a windows update, it doesn't mean i lose my videos, music, porn, cat pictures, games, etc.
The only justifiable reason to lose all these files would be a hardware failure of the HDD.
You don't lose all your files that's for sure.
Angelus Errare
Banned
This thread is trippy, sad, and hilarious.
This thread is funny and all, but I have to defend the OP just a little bit, lol. We all know you're not supposed to do it, but I'm sure many people here have unplugged electronics prematurely more than once before and usually nothing bad happens, so it's easy to get complacent. A real-life reminder of what can happen isn't the worst thing in the world.
Ok, everyone go back to making fun of it.
Ok, everyone go back to making fun of it.
Let me make the most of this beautiful thread and ask if there are skinny battery backups out there. I obviously like to leave my PS4 on rest mode, but I get surges from time to time and the PS4 always ends up turning off inappropriately. At least once or twice a week this happens.
Anyway, the battery backups I normally see, similar to the one I use for my work PC, are too thick for the space I have available behind my TV setup. Any help would be appreciated.
Note: I have the PS4 on a multi-plug, but I'm not sure if it has surge protection. Anyway, what I would like is for the PS4 to remain on when a surge comes or when electricity goes down for a couple of seconds/minutes.
Anyway, the battery backups I normally see, similar to the one I use for my work PC, are too thick for the space I have available behind my TV setup. Any help would be appreciated.
Note: I have the PS4 on a multi-plug, but I'm not sure if it has surge protection. Anyway, what I would like is for the PS4 to remain on when a surge comes or when electricity goes down for a couple of seconds/minutes.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Hey guys last week my bro accidently turned off the AC plug switch while his PS4 was in rest mode.
Now when he turns it on to use it the internet is super slow and WiFi acting so strange he can't even sign in to PSN no more it just gets stuck at Please Wait forever. Also cant download anything like updates etc. Did the WiFi chip fry or something?
Now when he turns it on to use it the internet is super slow and WiFi acting so strange he can't even sign in to PSN no more it just gets stuck at Please Wait forever. Also cant download anything like updates etc. Did the WiFi chip fry or something?
spookyfish
Gold Member
Seriously, though: That sucks.
Rellik
Member
Did you try rebuilding the database? You won't lose any data by doing that. And I'd try plugging in a Ethernet cable and you'll see if it it's the WiFi or not.
I question the sensibility of the OP, but I also question the sensibility of a system auto-updating the type of stuff that will break its file system if interrupted, without first prompting the user. If you lose power during a Windows Update process, you may get some issues isolated to that particular update, but it's incredibly rare for the process to corrupt all your data or require a system reset. For flashing BIOS etc it's a different matter, but then again the warnings associated with that process makes it seem like it'd be a better idea to shoot kittens than proceeding with a flakey power line. If corruption isn't very uncommon with the PS4 if you have a power break during an auto-update process, that's pretty note-worthy and very bad design imo.
Heaven Shard
Banned
Aha. Are consoles the same, or does it depend on the console? PS4 seems finicky when you swap HDDs.
Do you put it in the microwave to turn it back on? That's what I do!
Stop dealing in absolutes.
This could possibly be what is called, A teachable moment. Other things you shouldn't do. Not necessarily bad, but it's hard on the equipment.
---Shifting to "Drive" when your car hasn't fully stopped while backing. Especially with the new CVT type transmissions.
---Shutting an electronic device down, then immediately turning it back on.
---While a window air conditioner is cycled to "cool" do not turn it off then back on. It's likely to trip a breaker.
---Make sure to REAPPLY sunscreen every 30 minutes or so.
---After preheating your oven and placing your Turkey inside, DO NOT open the door again until it's done. Trust your oven and proper timekeeping to do the work for you.
---Water your plants in the early morning before sunrise, and after dark. DO NOT water them in the heat of the day.
---When changing your oil make sure to apply a thin coating of oil to the new oil filter gasket BEFORE installing onto vehicle.
---BEFORE working inside your lawnmower blade housing, remove the spark plug wire from the spark plug so as to not inadvertently start your mower while in harms way.
---ALWAYS remove power from live circuits BEFORE performing maintenance.
---Maintain less than 60% humidity in your basement to prevent mold.
---A 100 watt bulb costs approximately $1 to run for 24 hours. Switch to LEDs. They will pay for themselves in just a few months.
---Squeeze half a lime into your Guacamole to keep it from turning brown as fast.
I hope this helps.
---Shifting to "Drive" when your car hasn't fully stopped while backing. Especially with the new CVT type transmissions.
---Shutting an electronic device down, then immediately turning it back on.
---While a window air conditioner is cycled to "cool" do not turn it off then back on. It's likely to trip a breaker.
---Make sure to REAPPLY sunscreen every 30 minutes or so.
---After preheating your oven and placing your Turkey inside, DO NOT open the door again until it's done. Trust your oven and proper timekeeping to do the work for you.
---Water your plants in the early morning before sunrise, and after dark. DO NOT water them in the heat of the day.
---When changing your oil make sure to apply a thin coating of oil to the new oil filter gasket BEFORE installing onto vehicle.
---BEFORE working inside your lawnmower blade housing, remove the spark plug wire from the spark plug so as to not inadvertently start your mower while in harms way.
---ALWAYS remove power from live circuits BEFORE performing maintenance.
---Maintain less than 60% humidity in your basement to prevent mold.
---A 100 watt bulb costs approximately $1 to run for 24 hours. Switch to LEDs. They will pay for themselves in just a few months.
---Squeeze half a lime into your Guacamole to keep it from turning brown as fast.
I hope this helps.
Kaleinc
Banned
There's no warning I can't blow the fuse.For emphasis:
To everybody saying "my pc doesn't do this when the power goes out, or this other device etc the same thing".
Read the OP. He was doing it all the time. There is a difference between the occasional power loss, and yanking the power cord all the time, if you do that, eventually is going to catch up with you.
DeadManWalking
Member
This is really dumb. Cmon OP.
But didn't you hear, no one in the history of PCs has had data loss attributed to a power outage. Not a single person, ever.
protomouse
Member
And here I have a UPS backing my consoles, and another backing my PC.