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Dota 2 Beta Thread 2: Real Talk Discouraged [Magnus, Teams, 6.75b, 150+ Shop Items]

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So I'm new-ish to the game. Probably played around 30 matches overall and just recently got back into it. Now I'm quite addicted. I'd like to try more characters but there are so many that I'm not sure what direction to head in. I'm the best with Bane, with a ratio of 9:3 in my last game. After that I'm pretty decent with Rubick. Based on this, anyone know what other heroes might be worth trying for me? Thanks!



Maybe Lion and Shadow Shaman
 
Typical build is Phase Boots -> Drums -> Some caster items like Force Staff or Scythe.
Good, that's what I usually do. All of those items are on the recommended list except for Force Staff so I didn't want to get called out by someone who actually knows what they're doing for buying them.
 
I haven't won a game since last week... I think i'm in shit tier now. Also, regarding Loki/Thor, I hate to say this but loki's clearly the better player right now (and his stats show it). He plays way more games and generally has more tryhard friends that he rolls with regularly. Thor is like archie in that he wants to play X hero Y games in a row, or play a hero he gets an item drop for in the last game. He's also slightly more chill with losing I think.

Not my fault all the heroes with cosmetics suck.
 
So I'm new-ish to the game. Probably played around 30 matches overall and just recently got back into it. Now I'm quite addicted. I'd like to try more characters but there are so many that I'm not sure what direction to head in. I'm the best with Bane, with a ratio of 9:3 in my last game. After that I'm pretty decent with Rubick. Based on this, anyone know what other heroes might be worth trying for me? Thanks!


If you want to stay the support route I'd recommend lion. He's a little bit more complicated than bane but he's not hard at all. Once you're done with lion, check out AA.


Can anyone check this out? dota2://matchid=22385847&matchtime=4748

Match id: 22385847
Time: around 71:25

I really don't understand why my ult (i'm Juggernaut) didn't jump to invoker.

I didn't see any vision loss. Wonder if the bloodstone effect screwed up your ult. The only thing that stops jugger's ult is loss of vision or range, and neither of that happened.
 
Can anyone check this out? dota2://matchid=22385847&matchtime=4748

Match id: 22385847
Time: around 71:25

I really don't understand why my ult (i'm Juggernaut) didn't jump to invoker.
How do you get the replay URL's like that and how are they opened?
 
I don't know if this is a sound idea for someone completely new, but what happened to me was my friend forced me to play random, and not care how much I died. This forced me to learn heroes first-hand and eventually I learned who did what and how.

It probably took longer than it should have, but paying attention to what enemy heroes helps too

This and playing single draft are both good ideas.
I learned just thru playing one or two heroes I'm good at and eventually branching out when i got bored or wanted to learn a new hero. Guides are a big help and so is watching high tier replays.

You seem to like nukers so maybe Lich, Lina, lion, pugna, necrolyte, or Zeus will be up your lane.
 
There is a copy to clipboard button in the spectate menu when you're watching a replay.

Thanks, the protocol doesn't seem to work in Chrome at all, but Firefox at least recognises it and asks to which .exe it should be associated with and once you do that it works.
 
I was cringing listening to the PC Gamer podcast today.

They said DoTA 2 would never be as popular as TF2.

Isn't DoTA 2 in the beta alone almost over taking it. Then they said it would be great if Valve could get into the e-sports scene but it would be to hard. ARG!!!
 
I was cringing listening to the PC Gamer podcast today.

They said DoTA 2 would never be as popular as TF2.

Isn't DoTA 2 in the beta alone almost over taking it. Then they said it would be great if Valve could get into the e-sports scene but it would be to hard. ARG!!!
They're nuts.
 
I was cringing listening to the PC Gamer podcast today.

They said DoTA 2 would never be as popular as TF2.

Isn't DoTA 2 in the beta alone almost over taking it. Then they said it would be great if Valve could get into the e-sports scene but it would be to hard. ARG!!!
Hmm closed beta and right now at this particular time it has 3000 more concurrent players. Only a few thousand player difference in peak. They're pretty crazy/stupid.
 
I was cringing listening to the PC Gamer podcast today.

They said DoTA 2 would never be as popular as TF2.

Isn't DoTA 2 in the beta alone almost over taking it. Then they said it would be great if Valve could get into the e-sports scene but it would be to hard. ARG!!!

It's beating TF2 almost daily in the beta already yes.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Though not today it looks like, but that's most likely to do with all the pyro update stuff coming and people wanting extra metal/items already.
 
Yeah they were making out TF2s tens if thousands of players and LoLs 10+ million were swapped.

I almost thought they were trolling thier audience.

Have a listen, latest one, question and answers part.
 
I went from TF2 to Dota 2 myself, played TF2 daily for years, now I play Dota 2 daily and never play TF2 at all anymore. Think there are more people like that. Still a great game, one of the best games out there. But played it too much, time for another game.
 
i would definitely place neki in trash tier

loki and thor aren't nearly as good at dota 2 as they were at hon (from what i know)

change tomat to god tier

Thor doesn't play much but loki's still a beast. Maintaining 60+% win probably puts him in the top 1% of games.
 
I am dying to get into this..

does anyone know of a place where I could possibly trade like a Dirt 3 steam key for a Dota2 key?

You gotta do better than a Dirt 3 steam key (which is pretty much worthless) man....You can buy into the beta via the dota 2 store for $40...which includes virtual items.
 
I am dying to get into this..

does anyone know of a place where I could possibly trade like a Dirt 3 steam key for a Dota2 key?

Imagine you registered for the beta already, right?

Took me about a week to get approved

Speaking of which, I have no idea what I'm doing. Would anyone be interested in walking me through a game? I have the gist of what the objective is from playing MNC, but as it pertains to this game, I really don't know.
 
Imagine you registered for the beta already, right?

Took me about a week to get approved

Speaking of which, I have no idea what I'm doing. Would anyone be interested in walking me through a game? I have the gist of what the objective is from playing MNC, but as it pertains to this game, I really don't know.

The OP is pretty solid in telling you some heroes to start with. I've never played MNC. All I know is it has the creeps and towers concept like Dota does. Does it have last hitting/denying? If not that's pretty much one of the first things you need to learn how to do.
 
I am dying to get into this..

does anyone know of a place where I could possibly trade like a Dirt 3 steam key for a Dota2 key?

It's on this very page. Top. Reddit trades keys for crate keys. You can get a Dota2 key for about 5$ or some cool TF2 items if you're lucky.
 
Imagine you registered for the beta already, right?

Took me about a week to get approved

Speaking of which, I have no idea what I'm doing. Would anyone be interested in walking me through a game? I have the gist of what the objective is from playing MNC, but as it pertains to this game, I really don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_fFJhFj6Zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzYNyDF_nDk&feature=related

And if you know the basics

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE8BF94DE8B878FF0&feature=plcp


Another DP sorry
 
Invites are worth like $5-$10.
I still don't understand this. I filled out the questionnaire three weeks ago and Valve sent me an e-mail last weekend telling me that they had added a Dota 2 invite to my account. It's hard to fathom people paying $5-$10 (or $40) for a game that Valve will "deliver" to you free in a couple of weeks.

Regarding the OP recommendations for newbies - I had a hard time with both Tidebringer and Bounty Hunter (but that was on day one of my Dota 2 experience, where I didn't have my timing down as far as LHs and denies). Ursa and Drow Ranger I found very easy to use on the other hand, as someone who has zero MOBA experience.

The botmatch AI is a little...inconsistent? Even the easiest bots have ridiculous reflexes and incredible teamwork when it comes to ganging up in gank squads. As in if you try to gank a bot lagging behind his group by jumping out of stealth, the entire group will turn around instantly and nuke you down. I think the TF2 bots behave a bit more realistically and humanlike.

Anyways, I don't feel nearly confident enough to try a public match yet, at least not until I have a sense of what each hero is capable of.
 
Imagine you registered for the beta already, right?

Took me about a week to get approved

It took me 3+ months to get approved.

My friend has been waiting for a month now and not a peep from Valve.

Anyways, it has been taking me 4+ attempts to get into a single game... so many people decline when a game pops :(

EDIT: The bots are so stupid... I only use them to get the hang of a character, usually for less than a single round. I like when they go to do Roshan, then all stop and sit in front of him for several seconds, run away, come back 2 seconds later, and wait some more...
 
I still don't understand this. I filled out the questionnaire three weeks ago and Valve sent me an e-mail last weekend telling me that they had added a Dota 2 invite to my account. It's hard to fathom people paying $5-$10 (or $40) for a game that Valve will "deliver" to you free in a couple of weeks.

Because some people are still waiting for invites, and even then, why wait weeks when you can pay $10 and get in right now.
 
I still don't understand this. I filled out the questionnaire three weeks ago and Valve sent me an e-mail last weekend telling me that they had added a Dota 2 invite to my account. It's hard to fathom people paying $5-$10 (or $40) for a game that Valve will "deliver" to you free in a couple of weeks.

I have been waiting for over a month.
 
Just...wow...


Ah didn't realize the wait period was arbitrary. I just assumed they were giving them out more rapidly now that the game is getting closer to gold status.

There was a huge stink on GAF when the Meeru incident happened. Occasionally we have still seen him come back with alternate accounts.
 
I have been waiting for over a month.

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Imagine you registered for the beta already, right?

Took me about a week to get approved
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Took me 5+ months. Registered on the first day of sign ups and didn't get my invite until Feb of this year

I know this is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things but I've gotten annoyed at the way all pick works in that invariably anyone that doesn't random spends the entirety of the pre game picking because of their fear of being counterpicked. It makes any pre game coordination impossible. I hope they change it to something more structured like in any of the draft modes where people take turns picking heroes.
 
I was lucky, I think it was like a week after they announced beta nda was dropped that my friend dues got an invite, he shared one of them with me.

That was back in september I think.
 
I was lucky, I think it was like a week after they announced beta nda was dropped that my friend dues got an invite, he shared one of them with me.

That was back in september I think.

I saw the game live at gamescom 2011 and registered for the beta the same day they showed it ^^ I got my invite in December 2011
 
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