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Fuck you for jinxing it. Now thanks to you we will get more purple heroes.
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Speculated Sven colour update because he looked too similar to DK in his God's Strength form
 
He's riding some Russian player's dick while he throws these two girls under the bus (he was white knighting them like crazy before).

It's like an E-Soap Opera

that was seriously like watching a reality show it was ridiculous.

Not to mention..he single handedly showed me how important TP's are. Dude had 1k gold and they were getting ready to have a team fight top and he walked from base. So annoying
 
I remember reading this guide some time ago which seemed helpful explaining all the options and how to set it up. http://skyride.org/2012/11/the-complete-guide-to-streaming-dota-2-with-obs/

Yeah I just skimmed through that now and It's basically all right. The only thing I'd change is when he's setting his max bit-rate and buffer size. If you're upping at speed that people can't d/l at they can't watch your stream. E.g. my first stream was twice the maximum bitrate he shows since I have 10 mb/s up. It meant that some people couldn't watch the stream live. This only applies to non-twitch partners by the way since they have the resolution options on their players, in which case they should up as fast as they want.
 
Didn't expect the Polycount winners to be in so quickly. It took the TF2 Polycount winners several months to get in, with non-winning contributions taking over a year. Good winners so far, it's going to be hard for them to pick only ten.
 
Didn't expect the Polycount winners to be in so quickly. It took the TF2 Polycount winners several months to get in, with non-winning contributions taking over a year. Good winners so far, it's going to be hard for them to pick only ten.

Yeah, Valve has really been streamlining and improving their content addition process though it seems
 
Didn't expect the Polycount winners to be in so quickly. It took the TF2 Polycount winners several months to get in, with non-winning contributions taking over a year. Good winners so far, it's going to be hard for them to pick only ten.

the announced polycount winners' items are in the game files or something? they're not in the store, so I'm confused.
 
New Hero this week is going to be Kobe Bryant.
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As much as I'd love to see a hero this week, they are probably saving everything for a HUGE update next week involving the Polycount stuff, Medusa, possibly a bonus hero, and of course the winter update.

Edit: Oh and 6.77.
 
There is NO WAY there won't be a hero in tonights update. NO. WAY.

I'm going to say there's a good chance there is no hero (atleast not medusa) because;

1. WC3 dota always gets updates first, 6.77 is coming out soon.

2. We've been sitting on medusa stuff in files since before TI2, the most probable reason she hasn't came out is because icefrog decided to do some changes to her abilities sometime after TI2. (remember how centaur was delayed to accomodate 6.75?). Obviously there's other factors like voice work/bugs/programming issues but I think that would be ironed out over a period of 3 months.

3. Valve loves to sprinkle hints about upcoming heroes in their blog posts. Considering the last few blog posts have nothing like that (especially one made last night), I'm not getting my hopes up for a hero.


Shredder/Warlord even Bristle might still be on the table.
 
Yep, at best we'll get the 6.77 parity update before Christmas. Not expecting any more heroes until next year. Maybe if we're SUPER LUCKY, 6.77 is indeed reworking Medusa and we'll get her in the parity patch.
 
Any notes for this 6.77 patch?

Its not out yet, icefrog has said it will most likely be before christmas. I think the last update was released on a sunday so he can release it any day he wants, but so far the pattern has been that DoTA gets updated first before DOTA2. However there could be a possibility that he's done balancing the dota 2 pool and we will get 6.77 and once he's done balancing the wc3 pool heroes he'll update wc3.
 
Any commands I could add to my autoexec.cfg to cap the fps at 60? I dont like using vsync because it makes the mouse and camera controls feel sluggish.
 
Does LoL not have 60fps animations? That looks like 15 fps or something.

Is this why I can't stand to look at that game and it makes me nauseous?
Nah that's just the video. The game runs at 60fps.

If you feel nauseous it's probably due to the Dr. Seuss palette.
 
Hi Dota-GAF..

I started playing with a new character. I H8 Memes got me up to speed nicely with Lich so I figured it was time to move on and branch out a bit. Most if not all of my understanding and development in this game is due to his selfless teaching.

Anyhow, if anyone would like to watch my game from this morning using Vengeful Spirit and give me a critique I'd appreciate it. Disclaimer I had no idea how to use her Ulti but tried a couple of times and couldn't understand what it was doing or how it was beneficial.

Match ID : 77043598
 
Hi Dota-GAF..

I started playing with a new character. I H8 Memes got me up to speed nicely with Lich so I figured it was time to move on and branch out a bit. Most if not all of my understanding and development in this game is due to his selfless teaching.

Anyhow, if anyone would like to watch my game from this morning using Vengeful Spirit and give me a critique I'd appreciate it. Disclaimer I had no idea how to use her Ulti but tried a couple of times and couldn't understand what it was doing or how it was beneficial.

Match ID : 77043598

Her ulti just changes the positions of you and a target hero. So, for example, if you and another ally are chasing someone, you can swap with them enemy and then they'll be right by your ally and you'll be in front of them and you can corner them. Or in a teamfight it can (rarely) be useful to initiate by sacrificing yourself but pulling their hard carry into your team, where they can be taken down by themselves. Or saving an important team member if you have more health.
 
Hi Dota-GAF..

I started playing with a new character. I H8 Memes got me up to speed nicely with Lich so I figured it was time to move on and branch out a bit. Most if not all of my understanding and development in this game is due to his selfless teaching.

Anyhow, if anyone would like to watch my game from this morning using Vengeful Spirit and give me a critique I'd appreciate it. Disclaimer I had no idea how to use her Ulti but tried a couple of times and couldn't understand what it was doing or how it was beneficial.

Match ID : 77043598

If you want to I can give you a more thorough analysis later but here is my opinion on your first fifteen minutes:
Watch your positioning. - Sometimes you end up easily behind enemies or inbetween when you should have stayed with your lane partner.

Venge is a support - if no one else on your team buys courier, please do it for the sake of your team. This is true even when you do not play support. If in a pub game no one buys courier, do it yourself. That thing is essential.

Don't autoattack - You attack far too much and push the lane towards the enemy line. Focus on lasthitting. When paired with a carry, focus on denying and harrassing the enemy heroes, let the carry get the lasthits.

Don't waste your spells - Sometimes you will cast Magic Missile without any follow up. Sure it does nice damage, but the beauty about a Slardar - Venge lane is, that you can easily chainstun an enemy. Use spells when going for kills.

Watch what your lanepartner is doing - early in the game Slardar got killed even though you could have saved him with a stun. You just autoattacked and he died. Then 2 times, he was chasing an enemy with low health but you attacked creeps or the other enemy hero with full health. This brings me to my next point:

Focus - Sometimes when there are more than 2 heroes on screen, you will stand there doing nothing because you don't know who to attack or what spells to cast. Always attack the hero that your partner is attack first and foremost. If you think it will save your life cast Magic Missile on the other hero and run, don't attack him.

CAMERA WORK - This may be the point where you need to work on the most. More than 1 time Riki jumped on you (without stealth) and you noticed to late. Your camera is too rigid. When in lane and NOT autoattacking, but issuing a lot of move commands, always try to have the camera NOT centered at your hero, but just so, that he touches the bottom (top) end of the screen. (depending on your lane) You want to have the most vision possible because a lot of spells have a huge range, and half a monitor isn't enough. At 14:30 your camera is looking at woods, while you attack a tower and dive Riki. I couldn't even clearly see your hero, he was just a blip at the right end of the screen. Your screen contained about 30% useful information and the rest was empty woods.

Tips:
Buy sentry wards when in lane against Riki and BH. Especially BH can go invis from lvl 1 and with your 2 stuns and a sentry wards killing him would be very easy.

Don't go tranquil boots on venge when you have mana issues. Yeah your health was low, but a salve or TP back to base can solve that. It can't solve your mana issues though. Clarities lose their potency pretty soon, so in this case go mana boots. It's also beneficial for your team. Lich doesn't need mana boots because he can simply eat creeps, but most other casters don't have such luxury.

That's it for now, tell me if I said something useful ^^
 
Holy Shit, I'm so pissed right now. 55min of game, we finally destroy all the towers/barracks of the enemies, and when we proceed to destroy the ancient, the server is down, connection problem, and we can't reconnect! Seriously, we gave 1 hit to the enemy ancient before disconnecting! :\

Edit: After playing the game again, looks like everything counted, the problem was probably on my end :C
 
Milabrega. The numbers don't lie!

I can get behind this.

Didn't expect the Polycount winners to be in so quickly. It took the TF2 Polycount winners several months to get in, with non-winning contributions taking over a year. Good winners so far, it's going to be hard for them to pick only ten.

I think part of what delayed the TF2 polycount items is that Valve had to come up with reasonably balanced stats for them. On top of having the process more streamlined now, Dota cosmetics are just pure fluff so if the files are fine they can just shove them in.

I still hope that some get unique animations or effects though...

that poll slide recall animation...


come the fuck on.

I think what gets me the most about it is that it's not even well animated. I mean, she just sort of stands there for the last few seconds of the recall looking stupid. At least the Dota TP animations last the entire TP length.

(And LoL doesn't even have the recall time length change throughout the game so there's really no excuse.)
 
Question about my summoned monsters that die. Do I have to reset my control groups for them each time they are summoned ex. Lyman's wolves?
 
I think what gets me the most about it is that it's not eve well animated. I mean, she just sort of stands there for the last few seconds of the recall looking stupid. At least the Dota TP animations last the entire TP length.

(And LoL doesn't even have the recall time length change throughout the game so there's really no excuse.)

I'm all for trashing on LoL, but I can't get behind this. She's not standing there she's striking a pose with her head tilted back. And I'm honestly not so fond of a few of the TP animations in dota, either.
 
I was a long time dota player and finally played dota 2 yesterday. 3 games and not one was finished 5v5 because people were quitting 10 minutes into the game. Was I wrong for hoping there wouldn't be many leavers?
 
I was a long time dota player and finally played dota 2 yesterday. 3 games and not one was finished 5v5 because people were quitting 10 minutes into the game. Was I wrong for hoping there wouldn't be many leavers?

You'll work your way out of it. The lowest mmr is full of leavers, if you do semi decent and don't leave games I'm sure you'll stop getting leavers within 10 games.
 
You'll work your way out of it. The lowest mmr is full of leavers, if you do semi decent and don't leave games I'm sure you'll stop getting leavers within 10 games.

Yeah I haven't had many leavers for a long, long time. Maybe the occasional rage quit but it's a lot better than the original Dota in that way.
 
I'm all for trashing on LoL, but I can't get behind this. She's not standing there she's striking a pose with her head tilted back. And I'm honestly not so fond of a few of the TP animations in dota, either.

She's striking her pose for almost a third of the recall. That's just entering wasted time at that length. And the actual animation of her twirling around the pole isn't that... well done. I'm not an animator but it looks rigid to me.

Yeah, a couple of the Dota tp animations aren't great either but a few of them end on the hero striking the pose which looks better, in my humble opinion.
 
She's striking her pose for almost a third of the recall. That's just entering wasted time at that length. And the actual animation of her twirling around the pole isn't that... well done. I'm not an animator but it looks rigid to me.

That's fine, I don't like it either but to say that dota's tp animations are any better is a bit silly to me.

My point is that the dota tp animations don't have an end, they're really short animation loops and a few of them (anti-mage, beastmaster) just look goofy.
 
I was a long time dota player and finally played dota 2 yesterday. 3 games and not one was finished 5v5 because people were quitting 10 minutes into the game. Was I wrong for hoping there wouldn't be many leavers?

Yeah, that goes away. About 500 games in now and I get a leaver maybe once every 15-20 games, if that
 
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