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[MLiD] Project Helix is 25 Percent Faster Than PS6

LectureMaster

Or is it just one of Adam's balls in my throat?



With Microsoft having recently taken the first steps towards officially unveiling its next-generation Xbox, a new report by Moore's Law is Dead has offered more details about the differences in hardware between Project Helix and Sony's PS6. One of the biggest differences between the PS6's AMD Orion and Project Helix's AMD Magnus chips is their die size. While the former is believed to come in at 280 mm-squared in area, fabricated on TSMC's 3 nm process, the latter will seemingly have a much larger die, coming in at 408 mm-squared thanks to its combination of a 144 mm-squared SoC (system on a chip) and 264 mm-squared GPU. This also means that Project Helix will end up being more expensive than the PS6, since its chip is pricier to manufacture.

Another difference is how the compute units between Magnus and Orion have been set up. PS6 will seemingly run on 54 RDNA 5 compute units for its graphics, and 8 Zen 6c cores paired with 2 Zen 6 low-power cores dedicated to handling the operating system. This was, according to Moore's Law is Dead, reportedly gives a 20 percent boost in CPU power available for running games, when compared to the PS5's CPU which didn't have dedicated cores for the OS. Project Helix's Magnus, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have low-power cores. Rather, its CPU consists of up to 3 Zen 6 cores paired with 8 Zen 6c cores, while its GPU will have 68 RDNA 5 compute units.

Ultimately, the CPU powering Project Helix is noted as being more powerful thanks to its inclusion of Zen 6 cores, compared to the PS6's Zen 6c cores. However, the difference isn't expected to be too large between the two consoles when it comes to overall performance.

As for the GPU, Sony is reportedly targeting clock speeds of 3 GHz, which will result in performance of around 40 TFLOPS (trillion floating point operations per second). It is theorized to be capable of triple the rasterization performance of PS5, and up to 12 times the ray tracing performance. The Magnus chip powering Project Helix, however, is expected to be around 25 percent faster than the PS6 on paper. However, how this will play out in practice remains to be seen.

As for when these consoles might actually come out, Moore's Law is Dead expressed a belief that Sony is unlikely to actually delay the PS6. He noted that, while there are logistical issues that might drive up the cost right now owing to memory shortages and skyrocketing RAM prices, the company has dealt with similar issues just a few years ago, when the pandemic-induced lockdown caused similar problems with supply chains. To that end, he expects Sony to stick with its planned 2027 launch window, or maybe even push the console back to early 2028. However, a delay to 2029 is noted as being unlikely since it would cost the company more to disrupt its plans than it would to eat the inflated costs and launch the console as previously planned.
 
25% faster than PS6!!! We are so fucking back!
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sales figures of the more powerful Xbox Series X vs. weak ass PS5:

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He leaked exact specs for both Orion and magnus so long ago I thought this was common knowledge.
 
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Is that 9 TB vs 12 TB all over again, isnt that.. ?

How's a 25% more powerful PC shows it's strengh against ps5? :-D Yeah...

25% more powerful PCs are... 25% more powerful in most games, or more.

And unlike PS5/XSX situation, Magnus will be better in everything - better CPU, faster memory, more memory, bigger GPU etc.
 
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As for the GPU, Sony is reportedly targeting clock speeds of 3 GHz, which will result in performance of around 40 TFLOPS (trillion floating point operations per second). It is theorized to be capable of triple the rasterization performance of PS5, and up to 12 times the ray tracing performance. The Magnus chip powering Project Helix, however, is expected to be around 25 percent faster than the PS6 on paper. However, how this will play out in practice remains to be seen.
History has told us, Cerny > paper stats
 
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Isn't this the shill that was praising the acquisition of Activision/blizzard by microsoft. Dudes a Microsoft bootlicker.
I don't follow him or anything outside of Colin has him on Sacred Symbols + sometimes but as far as I'm aware all he ever does is go over tech stuff and at least on SS seemed pretty critical of MS.
 
If Xbox mess around & not be able to show a clear difference between a $1000 + console vs $600+ console they will be in trouble
 
With everything getting upscaled and whatnot, I expect the visual differences between these to be minimal in real world application. Slightly higher resolution and more FPS on Helix. I don't know that it would be worth a super premium. Some people will pay it though.
 
Isn't this the shill that was praising the acquisition of Activision/blizzard by microsoft. Dudes a Microsoft bootlicker.

MLiD a Microsoft bootlicker?
Thats a new one.

I dont much like MLiD but ive never really though of him as a MS Shill
 
The wildcard will obviously be cost and if MS can deliver reliable software.

ROG Ally X didn't provide the PC as a console reliable experience. And we all know about the "tools" situation with Series X.
 
Yes, more powerful PCs tend to cost more than cheaper consoles ...

As we have seen for decades ... means nothing.
 
In the age of digital ain't nobody dropping their game catalogues and switching sides no matter how much more powerful "on paper" the nextbox is over the PS6, history tells us these Microsoft power gains amount to very little actual realized game performance upticks..
 
Sony won't take a loss on hardware so it will be a 700$ console. MS if serious about "console" like they say better eat the loss on hardware and price match.

They probably won't and Helix will be 1100$ ,better expect to be , and OK with being outsold at a 5 to1 ratio vs PS6.


Also they both going to need to convince people these new consoles are ther way to play GTA 6. Hard to do if it sells 20 million copies in year one on PS5.

Will these consoles sell. Normies already have the killer app in GTA current gen.
 
with the deminishing returns we are getting... tbh Xbox 1 was a lot more powerful than the ps2... and a ps6 that's a bit more powerful than a ps5 pro in a world where the switch 2 is selling gangbusters and would be 2 gens behind in 2028 vs the ps6, idk if it matters as much as it used to.
 
Not exactly. PS5 and Xbox were trading blows in some metrics thanks to differences in clocks.
XSX has 17% more compute and 25% more bandwidth than PS5. Both of those metrics are not just 'some' metrics.

XSX has also about 10% more Cpu power than PS5. 7 cores clocked a bit higher than PS5 6.5 cores.
 
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