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Rivers 'o blood!

Are those graveyards in the jungle clearings?

krameriffic said:
Is it just me, or is Ayesee really stupid sometimes? Quantic is 2 full rax down and missing their tier 3 mid tower and he's basically saying that EG is out of time and Quantic is going to win. He needs Draskyl to rein in his stupid comments.
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Que? He wasn't nearly that definite, but he stressed a very real possibility: that EG weren't wrapping the game up quickly enough and AM was nearing a point of no return. It very nearly came to that point, but the combination of Quantic's impatience (taking a fight in the middle of the map instead of farming the AM on their side so that he'd have buyback cash at a fight closer to home, etc) and EG not overcommitting combined to seal it. But it wasn't a given that they were going to win, if there's any hero that can come back from two barracks down (or even megacreeps), it's an Antimage with that many items and money. Megacreeps don't amount to beans if the AM wipes the map clean of heroes and blinks up middle lane to finish it, EG had to take barracks without losing a fight in the process.
 
Ayesee has no idea what he's doing. His camera usage is horrible too, carry getting 6 new items flying in, and he keeps the camera on a random creep for half an hour. So frustrating to watch him cast.
 
JustinBB7 said:
Ayesee has no idea what he's doing. His camera usage is horrible too, carry getting 6 new items flying in, and he keeps the camera on a random creep for half an hour. So frustrating to watch him cast.
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Also, he should click on rubik to see waht he steals

A lot of times he steals something huge. It is cast and there is no mention of it
 
Map looks cool.

Did they change the way mm works recently? I've lost like 8 out of the last 10 games. Ready to take a long break. Also had the first asshole in a long time that fed himself and destroyed my boots off courier.
 
For awhile now I've been noticing my heroes auto casting W spells. Was happening last night with Magnus a couple of times and almost constantly with Pugna. Today to test it out I went with Lich and once my Ice armor was on I just passed my mouse over nearby heroes and creeps and it was constantly casting ice armor every time it was up.

So I've been assuming that it's my ancient keyboard finally dying. But when I'm playing any other games there are no random forward moves. When I'm typing there are no random W's being typed. Is there maybe a glitch that causes this? I looked through the options and didnt see any settings for auto-casting.
 
Schweinehund said:
Map looks cool.

Did they change the way mm works recently? I've lost like 8 out of the last 10 games. Ready to take a long break. Also had the first asshole in a long time that fed himself and destroyed my boots off courier.
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Yeah that appears to be the case, I've had my games swing from losses to wins with no middle ground.

Speaking of MM milk and 109 are going to enjoy sitting in shitty tier for a couple of games. Depressing how vastly different things are at the other end of the spectrum. Wards, smoke, sentries and a courier? I'm luck if I get the latter! Meh.

Here is hoping the next patch fixes things up.
 
I H8 Memes said:
For awhile now I've been noticing my heroes auto casting W spells. Was happening last night with Magnus a couple of times and almost constantly with Pugna. Today to test it out I went with Lich and once my Ice armor was on I just passed my mouse over nearby heroes and creeps and it was constantly casting ice armor every time it was up.

So I've been assuming that it's my ancient keyboard finally dying. But when I'm playing any other games there are no random forward moves. When I'm typing there are no random W's being typed. Is there maybe a glitch that causes this? I looked through the options and didnt see any settings for auto-casting.
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If you right click on empower and ice armor your hero will auto-cast the ability.
 
Why do so few Razor Players get Diffusal? The Purge makes it so easy to drain a person's Damage, and the orb is always good.
 
Drkirby said:
Why do so few Razor Players get Diffusal? The Purge makes it so easy to drain a person's Damage, and the orb is always good.
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No survivability, there's no point to draining tons of dmg if you get nuked down. That and diffusal makes a mediocre third/fourth item. I have seen people build it though, and it works all right.
 
Uriah said:
If you right click on empower and ice armor your hero will auto-cast the ability.
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Whats empower? Googled dota 2 empower and all that comes up is cleave for magnus. This happens with W on every hero. Especially Lich because his W will cast on any teammate or friendly creep.
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106840

This might be the only decent Death Prophet items concept so far. It isn't amazing either, but it works imo.
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I like this one more: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106395

Probably doesn't fit her character as much but I think it looks really good, especially the concept art.

Edit: also this guy is so good at concepts, all these sets just work: http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106514
 
Artanisix said:
Yeah, I was browsing through those the other day... so many amazing sets, I want them all in...
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Yeah I love these concept arts, especially the ones for drow and disruptor's bird mount.

They have some cool stuff for sylla but no final models yet. About a month more to go.

edit: Oh didn't see pepper's post. Crazy how I miss posts when skimming the thread. That dp set looks amazing.
 
That Venomancer set, I really hope that one gets in. The only issue I see is that it does make him look too much like his Hydralisk roots. But then again, it's not in color, and the color definitely makes him look much different from a Hydralisk to begin with.
 
Does anyone know off the top of their head how Bane's Nightmare works? Is it like HoN where you don't take character AoE damage (Jugg spin, Pudge rot, Omni heal) as long as you're asleep, but you can still be hit with stuff like Lina's targeted AoE stun? I remember Succubus sleep being a good way to counter the Swiftblade spin.

I was playing with an Omniknight in lane, but we set it up so I would Brain sap first to wake him up, then the heal, because I wasn't sure about if it would damage him.
 
Botolf said:
Que? He wasn't nearly that definite, but he stressed a very real possibility: that EG weren't wrapping the game up quickly enough and AM was nearing a point of no return. It very nearly came to that point, but the combination of Quantic's impatience (taking a fight in the middle of the map instead of farming the AM on their side so that he'd have buyback cash at a fight closer to home, etc) and EG not overcommitting combined to seal it. But it wasn't a given that they were going to win, if there's any hero that can come back from two barracks down (or even megacreeps), it's an Antimage with that many items and money. Megacreeps don't amount to beans if the AM wipes the map clean of heroes and blinks up middle lane to finish it, EG had to take barracks without losing a fight in the process.
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But it was that one-sided in favor of EG. Quantic didn't have their shit together, and AM was not showing his strength in the fights because of EG's composition. And AM is overestimated, especially up against a Juggernaut who is perhaps an equally capable hard carry into late game. That game looked like Quantic had a huge advantage, but they just couldn't make anything happen in a teamfight. No carry can overcome that kind of a situation, and fight after fight EG stomped them and Ayesee just kept saying "EG's time is up, AM is too big".

2 full lanes of rax down pushing into their base constantly and their mid tier 3 tower down and it was still "Quantic has this in the bag".
 
Zeppelin said:
You ran into a guy who couldn't play Pudge very well and decided to make a video of him sucking? Gotta love the Dota 2 community. :)
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Haha, it's not hateful in any way. The guy was actually really polite and was apologizing for missing so much. We still won the game.
 
Uriah said:
I'd like to learn how to play Pudge but I don't want people to suffer through my awful hooks.
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The bots are actually harder to hook than humans in my opinion, just because the bots will always notice everything around them, and have no camera to worry about moving. Here are a few of the things I've learned though that are most important.

1. Don't be one of those "waiting" Pudges. You have to move aggressively and make the hook opportunities come to you instead of just waiting for them to appear. Don't be caught like that for too long if no opportunity is coming. If you're going for a gank on a lane, and you can't see a chance for a hook through trees, but see a chance to just walk up and Dismember instead, go for that! If you can't kill him with that, you can always hook him when he runs away.

2. If they're moving, hook ahead, not at. Probably the single most important things is hooking ahead of them and predicting where they are going. Usually you can tell what they're going for, so you know where to throw the hook. This is also how people make fog hooks, because it is usually obvious where the unsuspecting hero is going.

3. Pay attention to the clock. I still occasionally struggle with this. Over time I forget when a creep spawn is happening, or just happened, and end up hooking a freshly spawned creep instead of the hero you wanted. Just look for the :30's in the time, and you can estimate about where the creeps will be when you're trying for a hook.

4. Your hook has a small AoE on the end of it. Use it. This means if someone is standing right behind a creep, but their body is slightly to the right of it. Then you can hook directly to the right of the creep, and the side of the hook should catch the hero. Many times people think they are safe, and they're not.

As for items, this is my usual build:

2 Gauntlets of Strength, Salve, Tango, Clarity, Branch to start with.

Bottle
Urn of Shadows
Boots of Speed
Magic Wand (why not, you will probably catch charges for it frequently)
Power Treads (Do Boots of Travel if you're doing extremely well, so you can TP everywhere and end quickly. It also helps you get in position for hooks better since BoTs have the fastest movement speed bonus)
Hood of Defiance (turn to Pipe if your team needs it)
Aghanim's Scepter
Heart of Tarrasque (if the game gets really late)

Other things to consider: Force Staff - This is great for escaping stuff and getting into position for hooks.
 
Haven't played in a couple of weeks. I forgot everything I knew already!

That Halloween map looks fucking awesome, very atmospheric. Kinda want to see more map variety over the coming years other than the usual seasonal stuff.
 
inky said:
Haven't played in a couple of weeks. I forgot everything I knew already!

That Halloween map looks fucking awesome, very atmospheric. Kinda want to see more map variety over the coming years other than the usual seasonal stuff.
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Yes. Please.

Map stagnation is probably my single most hated thing about the entire MOBA genre. Waiting on those workshop produced map introductions (if ever).
 
Sgt.Pepper said:
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106840

This might be the only decent Death Prophet items concept so far. It isn't amazing either, but it works imo.
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Is there something specific you'd like to see? I'm trying to decide what to do for my second set. Trying to decide between Pudge, Windrunner, or perhaps someone else. I looked at Death Prophet as well. It's honestly really hard to choose because there's so many cool options.
 
Says you.

Pudge Wars 2 will be the game of CHAMPIONS.
 
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