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Starting to enjoy SEA and hate USW. I can't escape the shittalking on USW. And I can't focus when someone's picked me out for unleashing his diarrhea mouth. It makes me play worse, and I was probably doing fine in the first place.

Like my last game in CM, the captain picked DS, Tidehunter and Void and then didn't ban Rubick during the 3 ban phase. Oops? Anyway it was my fault of course for not mentioning it, even though I did mention it between ban 2 and 3. Also my fault that captain Tidehunter didn't ever catch Rubick in his Ravage so we got Ravaged as well in every single fight.

I also got trash talked for dying once in suicide lane (picked DS) when the Sven/Rubick/Venge trilane didn't let me anywhere near the creeps to get exp or double ion shell. And it was also my fault for not surging him (when surge was on CD) to escape a lost team fight.

Yet end game comes, they're about to run us over and Void catches only one in his ult. I put down my ult, vaccuumed 3 enemies through the wall and into the edge of his chrono and all 3 melted from cleave dmg. I sheep the survivor and he goes down, we counter push and win. For 45 minutes, I was "trash" for every thing I did, but captain Tide was kind enough to say "good vaccuum."

At least in SE Asia if one of my teammates does something dumb and wants to blame the others, it's one "this team sohai" or "noob team" in all chat and that's the end of that. People in the US (including Australians who play there) are relentless.
 
odd_morsel said:
Starting to enjoy SEA and hate USW. I can't escape the shittalking on USW. And I can't focus when someone's picked me out for unleashing his diarrhea mouth. It makes me play worse, and I was probably doing fine in the first place.

Like my last game in CM, the captain picked DS, Tidehunter and Void and then didn't ban Rubick during the 3 ban phase. Oops? Anyway it was my fault of course for not mentioning it, even though I did mention it between ban 2 and 3. Also my fault that captain Tidehunter didn't ever catch Rubick in his Ravage so we got Ravaged as well in every single fight.

I also got trash talked for dying once in suicide lane (picked DS) when the Sven/Rubick/Venge trilane didn't let me anywhere near the creeps to get exp or double ion shell. And it was also my fault for not surging him (when surge was on CD) to escape a lost team fight.

Yet end game comes, they're about to run us over and Void catches only one in his ult. I put down my ult, vaccuumed 3 enemies through the wall and into the edge of his chrono and all 3 melted from cleave dmg. I sheep the survivor and he goes down, we counter push and win. For 45 minutes, I was "trash" for every thing I did, but captain Tide was kind enough to say "good vaccuum."

At least in SE Asia if one of my teammates does something dumb and wants to blame the others, it's one "this team sohai" or "noob team" in all chat and that's the end of that. People in the US (including Australians who play there) are relentless.
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I should start playing with you more man. You're pretty good.

I just cant concentrate on 2 dota games in a row :0
 
Okay, have I been doing something wrong all this time or is it really this way?

When you play Pudge, are you supposed to:

A. Throw hook, hit R and click on hero before hook hits, resulting in instant dismember when they get to you.

B. Throw hook, shiftqueue Dismember on hero for instant Dismember when they get to you.

I have always used method A because my fingers can't do method B, and every fucking hook I got on a Weaver, he ALWAYS Shukuchi'd out first! Is the Shukuchi really faster? I feel like it is, but I have no idea if having the muscle memory for method B would have actually gotten me the Dismember on that Weaver.
 
You have to dismember while the weaver is travelling on the hook, b/c weaver only has to press one key to get away, whereas the pudge has to dismember, then click on the weaver.
 
Functionally there shouldn't be a difference between shift queue dismember and just clicking it normally. The hook "cast" is only the hook throw, which means your command queue is empty once the throw animation has stopped. Therefore during the reel-in, you're free to do whatever you want and shift queuing the dismember would change nothing.

Also I could be wrong but I thought you aren't actually stunned during reel-in and can cast spells normally before you get reeled all the way into pudge. So he's actually in Shikuchi before he even gets to you. Same thing with Jugg's spin (which is why he's a decent counter to Pudge), etc.

Could be wrong that's just how I always understood it.

Edit: I like the clicking sound. :(
 
Artanisix said:
Hmm. I usually cast dismember on the person as they're coming back from the hook. Shukuchi is pretty fast so you need quick fingers.
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They both have .3 second cast animations, so as long as you click correctly you should be able to dismember every time.
 
Drkirby said:
They both have .3 second cast animations, so as long as you click correctly you should be able to dismember every time.
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You aren't accounting for time that Pudge needs to pivot to face the correct direction to cast Dismember if the hook doesn't land Weaver directly in front of him.
 
odd_morsel said:
You aren't accounting for time that Pudge needs to pivot to face the correct direction to cast Dismember if the hook doesn't land Weaver directly in front of him.
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Hooking someone brings him to the very front of you unless you accidentally moved after the hook.

Edit: Best way to get frustrated before match starts:

1: Have team random all melee heroes against Drow with a team of only ranged heroes. Followed by her getting first blood on Centaur.

Then after match starts:

1: Compete with an AM for farm as Naga, when your auto attack damage is pitiful compared to his.

2: Get 20min+ Vanguard and Diffusal Blade (with regular boots).



Luckily we won that match. I don't know how but we did. Was Naga, AM, Bounty Hunter, Centaur, and Tiny. Worst match ever.
 
Hylian7 said:
Okay, have I been doing something wrong all this time or is it really this way?

When you play Pudge, are you supposed to:

A. Throw hook, hit R and click on hero before hook hits, resulting in instant dismember when they get to you.

B. Throw hook, shiftqueue Dismember on hero for instant Dismember when they get to you.

I have always used method A because my fingers can't do method B, and every fucking hook I got on a Weaver, he ALWAYS Shukuchi'd out first! Is the Shukuchi really faster? I feel like it is, but I have no idea if having the muscle memory for method B would have actually gotten me the Dismember on that Weaver.
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The enemy is not disabled upon arrival. Also your hero has to do the start casting animation (dismember is not instant, Shukuchi is)
 
tha centaur alt is some bullshit, playing as sand king had a good early game but as soon as team fights started i couldn't get anything done. Charge epi blink in get instant stunned by the first person and then everyone just moves away before you can get a burrow off.
 
Tenck said:
Hooking someone brings him to the very front of you unless you accidentally moved after the hook.

Edit: Best way to get frustrated before match starts:

1: Have team random all melee heroes against Drow with a team of only ranged heroes. Followed by her getting first blood on Centaur.

Then after match starts:

1: Compete with an AM for farm as Naga, when your auto attack damage is pitiful compared to his.

2: Get 20min+ Vanguard and Diffusal Blade (with regular boots).



Luckily we won that match. I don't know how but we did. Was Naga, AM, Bounty Hunter, Centaur, and Tiny. Worst match ever.
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You had BH, which can actually make some of the dumbest teams work due to track gold.

Also, really hope they finally add Silencer to CM, he didn't get any changes in 6.77.
 
Oh wow, what a fucking troll move. Ahahaha.

UNUSUAL ESSENCE PRICE CRASHING.
 
Pureauthor said:
Why would this lead to Unusual Essence price drops?
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If for some reason you haven't had your fill of the pestiferous creatures, unhatched Greevil eggs are available and ready to be imbued with the magical essences that make these creatures such a pain in the--I mean, such a wonder to behold!
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I take this to mean that both the Greevil eggs, and their essences, are coming back. Unless it's a whole new set of essences and colors combos.
 
If they posted that on the page, the update should be anytime now right?? Or are they gonna torture us for two more days of waiting?
 
Haly said:
I take this to mean that both the Greevil eggs, and their essences, are coming back. Unless it's a whole new set of essences and colors combos.
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Greevil eggs have always been available since Diretide, they were never removed. Not sure if essences will come back though. It would be sort of hilarious if there were NEW essences.

Also way to ruin Frostivus everyone I was looking forward to that I heard Medusa was going to show up and everything.
 
My friend spent a pretty penny on a 3x Green Greevil just a few weeks ago. If Unusual essences are dropping from Drow/DK chests he's gonna be pissed.
 
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Sauce
 
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