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Dota 2 Beta Thread 3: Gunnar Optiks Required [Faster Loading]
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Just had the most amazing game ever up to now on this. This was my first ever attempt to use Sniper, I've not used many of them yet as I've only just started playing despite having the beta for awhile.
As usual the game kicks off and I seem to be the only English player in sight, despite me reaching out to the other team to see if I wasn't alone; I was. The game gets to about 5 minutes in and the first player on my team drops out leaving us behind with four players, but the whole team carries on pulling its weight and battling on, a few of us already out leveling the enemy.
After a few kills by myself around the 10 minute mark another drops out on my team, leaving us with three. Instead of me backing out and trying another game, yet again I decided to battle on with sniper as it's my first game and want to see what he is like to play. I also grab the two other players that have left and start tri-laning with them. After a lot of kills in my lane and going around and picking off others, the enemy team decides enough is enough and all five of them come out of nowhere and kill me plus the other two who I was controlling.
Again another guy on my team leaves, leaving me and another Russian. I pick up the third guy and all hell breaks loose, Kills here, kills there. Racking them in. With an amass of gold now for myself and everyone I'm controlling around the level 20 mark, we decided to end the game.
Most of you have probably had miles better games, but just thought I'd try to share the experience, even though anyone watching the game would think it was a noob fest.
As usual the game kicks off and I seem to be the only English player in sight, despite me reaching out to the other team to see if I wasn't alone; I was. The game gets to about 5 minutes in and the first player on my team drops out leaving us behind with four players, but the whole team carries on pulling its weight and battling on, a few of us already out leveling the enemy.
After a few kills by myself around the 10 minute mark another drops out on my team, leaving us with three. Instead of me backing out and trying another game, yet again I decided to battle on with sniper as it's my first game and want to see what he is like to play. I also grab the two other players that have left and start tri-laning with them. After a lot of kills in my lane and going around and picking off others, the enemy team decides enough is enough and all five of them come out of nowhere and kill me plus the other two who I was controlling.
Again another guy on my team leaves, leaving me and another Russian. I pick up the third guy and all hell breaks loose, Kills here, kills there. Racking them in. With an amass of gold now for myself and everyone I'm controlling around the level 20 mark, we decided to end the game.
Most of you have probably had miles better games, but just thought I'd try to share the experience, even though anyone watching the game would think it was a noob fest.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
It's kind of sad how video games have provided me a first-hand view of how people become prejudiced. In the MMO scene it was Brazilians — they took over my WoW server and everyone ended up hating them and using the "hue hue hue" jokes. In Dota it's Russians, and I even have to fight myself against making stereotypes against them, because I've already had a lot of bad experiences with Russian players. It's just important to remember that assholes know no national or racial boundaries.
A few days of playing Xenoblade will almost always revitalize my motivation. 1-player console games are excellent ways to refresh yourself by getting away from the aggro nature of online multiplayer games like Dota and CounterStrike.
This is the vast majority of my losses. I've had like, maybe two games where it was actually close. Most of the matches I play are a stomp in either direction.
Probably an excellent idea. Maybe I'll take a break for a few days. Or a week.
A few days of playing Xenoblade will almost always revitalize my motivation. 1-player console games are excellent ways to refresh yourself by getting away from the aggro nature of online multiplayer games like Dota and CounterStrike.
This is the vast majority of my losses. I've had like, maybe two games where it was actually close. Most of the matches I play are a stomp in either direction.
I have no idea what this means but i love it.
SteveWinwood
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I always get people with 300 wins who random and go "lol nevr plyd morphling bfore we'l se how dat goes"
How can you have sunk so many hours into the game and know so little.
I've never played Meepo before
and I'm never going to
dripdripsplash
Member
Damn man, I can't even handle controlling a couple of creeps with Chen. Nice work. Could you post the replay I'd love to watch that ?
Gully State
Member
There are plenty of heroes that I don't know how to play and I've got 500 total matches under my belt. I prefer playing the same hero over and over again until I have him down then I move on to the next one on the roster. Of course at the same time, I don't dare random and hate people that don't know how to play the whole roster that do.
cuz reading hero skills is for chumps
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
I get where those people could be coming from, but I do think its kind of silly. I've read enough and watched enough pro games/streams that I would be comfortable playing almost any hero, at least a modicum of skill, especially being able to pull up an alt tab guide on another monitor.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
God damn it Steve, you aimed that at me, didn't you?
At least I did OK that match. 2-2-12 or something, and we won.
Just had such a depressing game where I went 0-10 Sven, got shutdown in the lane, all the kills I could have had were stolen at the last second (by accident sometimes) and eventually just died in like 2/3 hits at the end. While the entire game some retard Russian keeps charging in solo on 5 heroes, and ping spamming constantly just blames everybody when he dies. Sigh.
Considering there are 100 heroes in the game and if you have like 500 games at most... that means that at most you have played 1 hero 5 times, which usually isn't the case. That's not nearly enough games per hero to have a good level of mastery on them, I mean imagine trying to figure out Meepo in 5 games.
Today I played Invoker for the first time in a live match (I mostly practice Invoker against bots, too scared to take it in a real match). I did really well, got a Mega Kill streak + a few triple kills and some global kills with Sunstrike and just spamming spells with Scepter Invoke. We lost the game because PL out farmed our carry but I had a lot of fun playing that game.
I also started playing Shadow Demon for the first time yesterday. I lost my first 2 games because I was skilling him wrong, then finally got a win after I got a grasp of how his skill synergy worked.
Sanic
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I guess i'm kinda one of those guys. I've played probably 200 matches between pub/private with almost 300 hours put into the game, and while I have an idea of what every hero does, I probably only know maybe 2/3 in an in-depth way.
I would have no idea how to play Morphling if I randomed him. I guess i'm a bad person.
SteveWinwood
Member
I wasn't I swear!
This is what I'm talking about. They act like they've never even see him in game before. I want you to just know that his q can be used as an escape. Can you just know that? I don't need you to be an expert. If you were you wouldn't be playing in my trash tier. I just expect you to know after 300 games to not morph everything to agility and then flame your lane partner because you dived with no support and died instantly.
50 games in and you mistake crystal maiden for a carry? Okay kind of I get that. You might not even know what a carry is if you're not reading up on the internets. But I just don't know how you can do it with so many wins, yet I see it all the time. Wins mean nothing. At least I'm not in a tier where people abandon all the time, so I should count my blessings.
Dreams-Visions
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Thing is, that's a lot of information to process. And it's not just about a familiarity; you really have to play a hero several times before you can get comfortable with how and when to use what skill. It can take awhile before a hero feels good...and longer still before you know when to hold 'em, and when to fold 'em.
Doubly so is this true for understanding the mind of your enemy, their skillset, and what they want to do. Then you add in the competency of your team comp and the people behind the other keyboards on your team, and you never know what you're gonna get.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
This happened to me the other day. I felt bad because I had no idea how to play him, so I used the extra gold I got for randoming to buy the courier and wards, and I played support. It ended up working out OK. I just made sure to have 50% more strength than agility, so my Adaptive Strike had the max stun duration. A 3 second stun on a 10 second cooldown was really great for my team's carries.
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othis. I had to play SF over 50 times across HoN and Dota before I became #1 world sf.
On a more serious note, you can watch all the best Meepo, Lone druid, and Rubick plays in the world--doesn't make you adept at any of those heroes. I've played over 500 games of Dota and I'd only consider myself "good" with maybe 5-10 heroes. The rest I'm inconsistent or just decent with. There are probably around 10 heroes that I rarely or have never played.
I think the best gauge for hero performance is consistency--even in losing matches. It's one thing to go 10-0 with broodmother one game, and it's another to win 10/15 games with a good score each time.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
If Sand King didn't have such shitty attack speed/animation, he could farm like crazy. That passive makes you get gold fast.
The match ID is 111099089 if you want to search for it.
Technosteve
Banned
sometimes before the game starts i can tell my team will lose, as soon as i see medusa pick i go GG and cry in the corner 4 vs 5 dota is no fun.
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
I don't think I've ever had a problem with his animations. He farms extremely well as he is.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I didn't word that well. I meant going for a DPS-ish build would be viable if his AS wasn't so bad. I knew he farms very fast.
Dazzle is a hero who I liked a lot when I go with desolator, mjolnir and other crap.
Worst part about dota 2 replays; you can't see people micro different units =/
Player perspective?
I don't think it shows your unit selection, at least I couldn't get it to on one of my sylla replays.
Try hitting escape after you click the portrait at the top. That takes you to whatever who you're following is selecting.
Nope, doesn't work on sylla for me at least =/
I tried a shit ton of stuff but didn't get it to work (even double checked that just now)
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
The other thing that bugs in with the people I get paired with is that all too common are shitty starting builds.
I'm talking boots first and maybe a set of tangos, and the game is just downhill from there when invariably they either get harassed out of lane, having to make constant trips back to base, or just straight killed.
Got into an argument in-game about poor play the other day and it just put me off. (The boots first thing I'm mainly referencing a Magnus in this game that couldn't last hit, but is something that I see too frequently), but this other guy was playing Enchantress - brought a creep to a fight maybe once ("what do you mean a creep would be useful?", didn't come to gank when I asked, farmed the pull camp I was stacking to use, etc. And then he bitches me out ("all right mr. pro player...") for having a worse K/D ratio as Jakiro, the only support on the team.
So I haven't played in a couple days because I'm still venting from that one.
I'm talking boots first and maybe a set of tangos, and the game is just downhill from there when invariably they either get harassed out of lane, having to make constant trips back to base, or just straight killed.
Got into an argument in-game about poor play the other day and it just put me off. (The boots first thing I'm mainly referencing a Magnus in this game that couldn't last hit, but is something that I see too frequently), but this other guy was playing Enchantress - brought a creep to a fight maybe once ("what do you mean a creep would be useful?", didn't come to gank when I asked, farmed the pull camp I was stacking to use, etc. And then he bitches me out ("all right mr. pro player...") for having a worse K/D ratio as Jakiro, the only support on the team.
So I haven't played in a couple days because I'm still venting from that one.
Sadly that's an optimal build in reague of regends. If you see it a lot, now you know.
If I start a game and 3+ of my team are speaking a different language I get a little apprehensive, but if they type "wakwakwak" or "wkwkwk" then I know I'm fucked. I've never won a game with wakwakers on my team. I don't know what country they are, it's not Thai (555+), don't think it's Malaysia, as they don't laugh, they just call you CB and SOHAI (stupid vagina or something similar). Some other SEA country. Either way they're all bad at Dota 2.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Well shit. TIL.
Nah, I know that. That's like the one exception though which is why I didn't mention it, and these people aren't smart/coordinated enough to do anything like that.
shira
Member
kotl
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
KotL could do it, but there are much better options for him to buy. Wards and courier as team items for one.
He also has a higher than average base movement speed, so he doesn't really need the boots that early.
Orangepeel
Member
Anyone browsing this thread need an invite? I've got a few to give, through PM
By the by, 100 hours in, I fucking love this game, and I fucking hated the war 3 mod, whoa...
By the by, 100 hours in, I fucking love this game, and I fucking hated the war 3 mod, whoa...
Even as the best spectre player in the world I didn't understand why her ulti had so much less team fight impact in dota 2 compared to 1, now I do =/
Damn, I'd really love if they'd fix that asap, especially with the buffed ulti. cy@ supports
@Pillow: I'll be the King, and you can be the Prince when we take over the world.
Damn, I'd really love if they'd fix that asap, especially with the buffed ulti. cy@ supports
@Pillow: I'll be the King, and you can be the Prince when we take over the world.
treads, armlet, mom, bkb
Technosteve
Banned
Spec has no boobs
PillowKnight
Member
I'm okay with that.
So that's why Spectre ulti never seemed to do much of anything, it's really hard to tell these kinds of things while a game is going on.
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