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[Archie]

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/04/dota-2-14th-april-item-schema-update/

Item schema got updated again. Few points of interest:

-You can potentially buy Broodmother hair and legs
-The +drop rate consumable gives a minor stacking bonus to people in the same game as you
-There are strange essences which track things like kills, assists, wards placed, etc.
-There are items with particle effects ala unusual hats in TF2.

The later two kinda bug me. I'd hate for people to play greedy for a +1 their epeen and unusual hats in TF2 are tacky as sin.

 

[cdyhybrid]

The later two kinda bug me. I'd hate for people to play greedy for a +1 their epeen and unusual hats in TF2 are tacky as sin.

This is why I hope no one ever figures out what criteria Valve uses to fill the performance bars for each hero.

 

[Meteorain]

Here we go.

I hope you guys screencapped the rest of my rant. Here is what HoN GAF will post in the next 2 pages:

LOL BAD K/D

LOL FEEDER

LOL SALT

LOLOLOLOLOL

No one on Navi ever had a bad game. In their life.

No one on Mouz ever died ONCE in a game. Because only pros like the people who take the time to screencap my rant in the channel and post it on GAF are qualified to criticize the play of others. Oh, you didn't play in the NBA? Sorry, you can't critique someone for having 0 points and 21 turnovers.

Cmon guys, can we at least TRY and be a little better than the pubbies? Just a smidge?

This type of shit is hurting this game, and once it goes live, will prevent 99% of newcomers from getting into the game. Anything that isn't nutriding instantly falls under the category of salt and is ridiculed to no end. It's childish and not constructive in the slightest.

Edit: Of course, we could actually not form arguments off of a screencap of 7ish lines of text, and actually listen to what people have to say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I don't understand, why you're weeping like a small child? Do you even know why you're mad?

People just called you out for being mad, and then you proceed to rant even more? Nobody even called you out for being bad, you just preemptively accused yourself of being shit in a time when you're normally always good?

Nobody here asks that you play on the same tier as professionals, everyone humbles themselves (look at Swag's/Sebulon3k self effacing realisation of his shitness on the grand scale of things).

A lot of the time, there is talk between players on builds, etc. However you waltz in complaining that they are just trolling about salthouses? The majority of people in those take the shit-talking light heartedly and everyone has fun. Except you.

So how about you sack up or just keep your mouth shut.

 

[Drkirby]

The later two kinda bug me. I'd hate for people to play greedy for a +1 their epeen and unusual hats in TF2 are tacky as sin.

I really like the Strange Parts in TF2, but I will have to see the Particles before I judge them. So far, I have seen Courier Trails and Juggernaut Swords Glows, which both looks fine (Jugg's Sword does already glow after all)

 

[Haly]

He's seriously my worst hero. I think I do bad with him because he's so fragile and he needs good positioning.

I found some of my better games as SD:
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Although Milkman's Eth Blade/Dagon SD is still peerless (bonus: DOTAGAF showing EG.Demon and EG.Fear who's boss)
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[Archie]

I really like the Strange Parts in TF2, but I will have to see the Particles before I judge them. So far, I have seen Courier Trails and Juggernaut Swords Glows, which both looks fine (Jugg's Sword does already glow after all)

I'm not against the concept of strange parts, but I'd hate to see a support hero intentionally KS because "lol i gotta rank up to Hale's Own Crystal Staff". I trust Valve has enough foresight to address that, though.

 

[cdyhybrid]

I don't understand, why you're weeping like a small child? Do you even know why you're mad?

People just called you out for being mad, and then you proceed to rant even more? Nobody even called you out for being bad, you just preemptively accused yourself of being shit in a time when you're normally always good?

Nobody here asks that you play on the same tier as professionals, everyone humbles themselves (look at Swag's/Sebulon3k self effacing realisation of his shitness on the grand scale of things).

A lot of the time, there is talk between players on builds, etc. However you waltz in complaining that they are just trolling about salthouses? The majority of people in those take the shit-talking light heartedly and everyone has fun. Except you.

So how about you sack up or just keep your mouth shut.

This is exactly what happens when you base your entire argument on one screengrab. You have no idea what the context of that screenshot is, or why I was ranting in the first place. Instead we just default to LOL U MAD LOLOLOLOL.

Let me clarify the situation for you:

1) I complain about much-worse-than-normal pub teammates. This wasn't a long-winded bitchfest (yet), it was like 3 lines of text. It's 3:00 in the fucking morning and no one ever talks in the GAF channel anyway, so it really shouldn't be a big deal that I vent when no one pays attention to the channel anyway.

2) I get "you're just bad" as a blind response, and I'm not in the mood for that, because it's ridiculous to say that and I'm fucking tired of all the shit-talking and mindless trolling.

3) #2 plus my frustration with reading this thread leads to rant.

4) Someone posts the screenshot and then we all spam U MAD in this thread. That's alright though, I shouldn't have expected anything else. I apologize, I'll refrain from speaking the GAF channel or posting in this thread again.

Carry on.

 

[Ferga]

Started to play today after getting a key. My first game, My entire team rage quit after they all died in less than 5 minutes.

Wut...?

 

[Haly]

Started to play today after getting a key. My first game, My entire team rage quit after they all died in less than 5 minutes.

Wut...?

Hang in there, it gets better. Or less worse.

Eventually.

 

[FromTheFuture]

Here we go.

I hope you guys screencapped the rest of my rant. Here is what HoN GAF will post in the next 2 pages:

LOL BAD K/D

LOL FEEDER

LOL SALT

LOLOLOLOLOL

No one on Navi ever had a bad game. In their life.

No one on Mouz ever died ONCE in a game. Because only pros like the people who take the time to screencap my rant in the channel and post it on GAF are qualified to criticize the play of others. Oh, you didn't play in the NBA? Sorry, you can't critique someone for having 0 points and 21 turnovers.

Cmon guys, can we at least TRY and be a little better than the pubbies? Just a smidge?

This type of shit is hurting this game, and once it goes live, will prevent 99% of newcomers from getting into the game. Anything that isn't nutriding instantly falls under the category of salt and is ridiculed to no end. It's childish and not constructive in the slightest.

Edit: Of course, we could actually not form arguments off of a screencap of 7ish lines of text, and actually listen to what people have to say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

There are a couple people who couldn't make it to this post tonight. Bless them, where ever they might be.

 

[Sanjay]

Guys new patch codes is out:-

New Broodmother and Lone Druid parts:-

{
"name": "Broodmother's Hair",
"defindex": 101,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "New Item",
"item_name": "Broodmother's Hair",
"item_description": "This new item has no description.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Broodmother's Legs",
"defindex": 102,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "New Item",
"item_name": "Broodmother's Legs",
"item_description": "This new item has no description.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Broodmother's Abdomen",
"defindex": 103,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "New Item",
"item_name": "Broodmother's Abdomen",
"item_description": "This new item has no description.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Lone Druid's Hair",
"defindex": 107,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "Head",
"item_name": "Lone Druid's Hair",
"item_description": "default hair",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Lone Druid's Shoulder Armor",
"defindex": 108,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "Shoulder",
"item_name": "Lone Druid's Shoulder Armor",
"item_description": "default shoulder armor",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Lone Druid's Bracers",
"defindex": 109,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "Arms",
"item_name": "Lone Druid's Bracers",
"item_description": "default arm item",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Lone Druid's Poncho",
"defindex": 110,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "body",
"item_name": "Lone Druid's Poncho",
"item_description": "default body item",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},

New references to Ogre Magi’s and Meepo’s weapons:-

{
"name": "Meepo weapon",
"defindex": 104,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "Weapon",
"item_name": "Meepo weapon",
"item_description": "This new item has no description.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},
{
"name": "Ogremagi weapon",
"defindex": 105,
"item_class": "dota_item_wearable",
"item_type_name": "New Item",
"item_name": "Ogremagi weapon",
"item_description": "This new item has no description.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 0,
"image_inventory": "econ/testitem_slot_empty",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/testitem_slot_empty.09fb7afd099a31da8bb9882e75b5d25459f261ac.png",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
}
},

Stat tracking etc:-

"attributes": [
{
"name": "kill eater score type",
"class": "kill_eater_score_type",
"value": 0.000000
}
]


"kill_eater_score_types"
{
"0"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Kills"
}
"1"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_KillAssists"
}
"2"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Wins"
"level_data" "WinsRank"
}
"3"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Treants_Created"
"level_data" "FurionRank"
}
"4"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Omnislash_Jumps"
"level_data" "JuggernautRank"
}
"5"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Blade_Fury_Time"
}
"6"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Blade_Dance_Crits"
}
"7"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Wards_Placed"
}
"8"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Killing_Sprees"
}
"9"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Trees_Created"
"level_data" "FurionRank"
}
"10"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Carries_Killed"
}
"11"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_First_Blood"
}
"12"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Godlike"
}
"13"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Gold_Earned"
}
"14"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Gold_Spent"
}
"15"
{
"type_name" "KillEaterEventType_Towers_Destroyed"
"level_data" "TowersRank"
}

Misc Items:-
.[

{
"name": "Lost Treasure of the Ivory Isles",
"defindex": 10020,
"item_class": "supply_crate",
"item_type_name": "Treasure",
"item_name": "Lost Treasure of the Ivory Isles",
"item_description": "You need a Treasure Key to open this. You can pick one up at the DOTA 2 Pro Shop.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 4,
"image_inventory": "econ/tools/treasure_cache",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/treasure_cache.9878f91d13a38aef4c0a679ea225e0e194e8b04a.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/treasure_cache.9878f91d13a38aef4c0a679ea225e0e194e8b04a.png",
"capabilities": {
"decodable": true,
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
},
"attributes": [
{
"name": "set supply crate series",
"class": "supply_crate_series",
"value": 1.000000
},
{
"name": "disallow recycling",
"class": "disallow_recycling",
"value": 1.000000
}
]

},
{
"name": "Treasure of the Deep Druids",
"defindex": 10021,
"item_class": "supply_crate",
"item_type_name": "Treasure",
"item_name": "Treasure of the Deep Druids",
"item_description": "You need a Treasure Key to open this. You can pick one up at the DOTA 2 Pro Shop.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 4,
"image_inventory": "econ/tools/treasure_cache",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/treasure_cache.9878f91d13a38aef4c0a679ea225e0e194e8b04a.png",
"image_url_large": "http://media.steampowered.com/apps/816/icons/treasure_cache.9878f91d13a38aef4c0a679ea225e0e194e8b04a.png",
"capabilities": {
"decodable": true,
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
},
"attributes": [
{
"name": "set supply crate series",
"class": "supply_crate_series",
"value": 2.000000
},
{
"name": "disallow recycling",
"class": "disallow_recycling",
"value": 1.000000
}
]

},

Rewards, Souls, Strange Essences & Stuff:-

Full description:

{
"name": "Strange Essence: Carries Killed",
"defindex": 15009,
"item_class": "tool",
"item_type_name": "Strange Essence",
"item_name": "Strange Essence: Carries Killed",
"item_description": "Adding this Strange Essence to a strange weapon of your choice will allow it to also track the number of carries you kill with that weapon.",
"proper_name": false,
"item_quality": 4,
"image_inventory": "econ/tools/strange_essence_carries_killed",
"min_ilevel": 1,
"max_ilevel": 1,
"image_url": "",
"image_url_large": "",
"capabilities": {
"can_craft_mark": true,
"can_be_restored": true,
"strange_parts": true
},
"tool": {
"type": "strange_part",
"usage_capabilities": {
"strange_parts": true
}
},
"attributes": [
{
"name": "strange part new counter ID",
"class": "strange_part_new_counter_id",
"value": 10.000000
}
]

},

Particle Effects Changes:-

{
"name": "attach particle effect",
"defindex": 134,
"attribute_class": "set_attached_particle",
"min_value": 0.000000,
"max_value": 0.000000,
"description_string": "Effect: %s1",
"description_format": "value_is_particle_index",
"effect_type": "neutral",
"hidden": false,
"stored_as_integer": false
},
{
"name": "set item tint RGB",
"defindex": 142,
"attribute_class": "set_item_tint_rgb",
"min_value": 0.000000,
"max_value": 16777215.000000,
"description_string": "Color: %s1",
"description_format": "value_is_color",
"effect_type": "neutral",
"hidden": false,
"stored_as_integer": false
},

Courier Particle Effects:-

{
"system": "courier_trail_01",
"id": 15,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Ethereal Flame"
},
{
"system": "courier_trail_02",
"id": 16,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Resonant Energy"
},
{
"system": "courier_eye_glow_01",
"id": 17,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Luminous Gaze"
},
{
"system": "courier_eye_glow_02",
"id": 18,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Searing Essence"
},
{
"system": "courier_eye_glow_03",
"id": 19,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Burning Animus"
},
{
"system": "courier_eye_glow_04",
"id": 20,
"attach_to_rootbone": false,
"name": "Piercing Beams"
}

That's all of it.

 

[throwawayname]

 

[Haly]

Man, if you guys keep this up you are all going to get banned.

First crunchhongaf, then eurohongaf.

 

[Conceptor]

So good :lol

Catching up on the atoD matches, this was hilarious

 

[Guesong]

So good :lol

Catching up on the atoD matches, this was hilarious

That has to be a bug.

 

[Insured]

So good :lol

Catching up on the atoD matches, this was hilarious

What's ridiculous is, they drafted them the morphling themselves, then in the game morphling proceeds to dodge every single initiation / ulti from the clumsy ass spirit breaker (which they already knew they had). Poor TC.

 

[BeesEight]

Started to play today after getting a key. My first game, My entire team rage quit after they all died in less than 5 minutes.

Wut...?

Bot game? Probably a bot game.

This is why I generally don't recommend people play bots to learn the game. They're a really poor atmosphere with people rage quitting all the time. I play them quite frequently as my friend is still trying out all the heroes (excellent place for it) and of the last five games, I think only one had everyone stay around until the end. That said, if you're playing with someone that knows what they're doing, it's really easy to carry in a bot game so is great since your mistakes won't necessarily cost the match.

See if you can't find someone to either spectate and coach or play in the game with you. If you're on US East, I'm more than willing to help teach the ropes. My steam name is Beesハチ and my avatar is a steampunk companion cube (if you do add me, please just send me a little message to tell me who you are).

 

[deleted]

I'm not very active in this thread but find myself scanning it most of the time. Somehow I've gone from 'playing from time to time' to 'watching every joindota stream I can'.
atm I enjoy watching Dota2 streams way more than playing.

I'm looking forward to the item updates. I can see some of my rl friends who play lol most of the time switching to Dota2, once they can gain something from playing.

 

[close to the edge]

http://www.joindota.com/en/live/tobiwan

Games are about to start, with NaVi's Puppey as a co-commentator.

 

[spootime]

I tried playing this game with some friends but its just made me want to play hon instead. whenever i drag the screen to the right or left there's a weird delay. It just seems like everything is slower in this game

 

[Schweinehund]

Are you trying to do solo mid Shadow Demon or support dual lane SD?

Usually I support dual.

This sounds kinda silly, but I always find him a weird hero. I just don't really understand him. how should he be played for best effect? I'm guessing the choice is support or mid?
Also I find his poison skill really very weak, even when you get 3-4 charges on it, it seems to do pretty mediocre damage. Does it combo well with his other skills at all?

What do competetive players see in him thats so good.
Anyone got a good guide or something. He's the only hero I just dont 'get'. I'd love a run down on how hes played.

I'm not really a fan of his poison as well. I can anticipate their moves and get the poison on them most of the time, especially if they are melee, but its so mana consuming that its hard to pull off the full combo of disruption, soul catcher, another poison, then purge without running out of mana. I usually start with RoP and turn that into Basi if sidelaning, but that doesn't seem to help my mana that much.

 

[Schweinehund]

http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/04/dota-2-14th-april-item-schema-update/

Item schema got updated again. Few points of interest:

-You can potentially buy Broodmother hair and legs
-The +drop rate consumable gives a minor stacking bonus to people in the same game as you
-There are strange essences which track things like kills, assists, wards placed, etc.
-There are items with particle effects ala unusual hats in TF2.

The later two kinda bug me. I'd hate for people to play greedy for a +1 their epeen and unusual hats in TF2 are tacky as sin.

They have so many heroes to make items for, I really hope they use a lot of the workshop models. Also excited to see syllabear having a few item slots (poncho, hair, shoulder, bracers iirc).

I found some of my better games as SD:
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Although Milkman's Eth Blade/Dagon SD is still peerless (bonus: DOTAGAF showing EG.Demon and EG.Fear who's boss)
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I'll take a look when I finish this stupid paper .

 

[Ikuu]

I just level Soul Catcher and Disruption, and not bother with Poison until after they're maxed or at all. Seems the way to go for either Support or Mid.

 

[Haly]

I just level Soul Catcher and Disruption, and not bother with Poison until after they're maxed or at all. Seems the way to go for either Support or Mid.

I generally dislike this style of play, it's just so boring. And you really can't do much by yourself.

I do:
Disruption - Poison - Poison - Catcher - Poison - Purge - Poison.

Then I max Catcher next and Disruption last.

At the very least you should have one level of Poison for scouting. It's invaluable in games against Lycan/Ursa, because you can just camp Rosh 24/7 from mid.

 

[kazabi]

I tried playing this game with some friends but its just made me want to play hon instead. whenever i drag the screen to the right or left there's a weird delay. It just seems like everything is slower in this game

Go to options and put camera acceleration to max. Not sure why they didn't have it there as default since it's maxed in wc3.

 

[Torraz]

What would be a good character for a newbie? I've played maybe 3 matches of the original dota and nothing after that.

 

[kazabi]

Just got into the beta. What would be a good character for a newbie? I've played maybe 3 matches of the original dota and nothing after that.

Lich and tidehunter are two very newbie-friendly heroes

 

[Torraz]

Lich and tidehunter are two very newbie-friendly heroes

Thank you. I'll do some reading up on those.

Then I guess I should try a player vs. bot match or two.

 

[Irish]

Man, it is always so satisfying soloing one of the side lanes as Leshrac and getting first blood.

 

[Ikuu]

GD Studio Dota2 Arena is just about to start, http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio

Features CLG, EG, Mouz, and Quantic.

 

[JustinBB7]

That has to be a bug.

It works on TP's as well, SB uses his ult right when morph went back to his replicate. Not a bug, just a thing that rarely happens.

 

[close to the edge]

Puppey is hilarious.

 

[Forkball]

What would be a good character for a newbie? I've played maybe 3 matches of the original dota and nothing after that.

Lion has a versatile move set that includes stuns, disables, mana regen and a powerful ult.

Lich is good because you can just cast frost armor on everyone to be loved, plus he has a great ult.

Crystal Maiden is another good support character and since she's so easily killed, everyone suspects that you will die a lot do no one will complain when you do.

If you don't like support and just want to kill people, Axe is an excellent choice. He can take a lot of damage and dish it out, and by the end of the game it will take their entire team to kill you.

 

[Meteorain]

QoP sidelane is best QoP.

 

[Anbokr]

This is exactly what happens when you base your entire argument on one screengrab. You have no idea what the context of that screenshot is, or why I was ranting in the first place. Instead we just default to LOL U MAD LOLOLOLOL.

Let me clarify the situation for you:

1) I complain about much-worse-than-normal pub teammates. This wasn't a long-winded bitchfest (yet), it was like 3 lines of text. It's 3:00 in the fucking morning and no one ever talks in the GAF channel anyway, so it really shouldn't be a big deal that I vent when no one pays attention to the channel anyway.

2) I get "you're just bad" as a blind response, and I'm not in the mood for that, because it's ridiculous to say that and I'm fucking tired of all the shit-talking and mindless trolling.

3) #2 plus my frustration with reading this thread leads to rant.

4) Someone posts the screenshot and then we all spam U MAD in this thread. That's alright though, I shouldn't have expected anything else. I apologize, I'll refrain from speaking the GAF channel or posting in this thread again.

Carry on.

You sound like Bill Clinton caught with his pants down brah. Sounds like you're making a big deal out of nothing; nobody said you're bad (can't judge don't know you), but you certainly sound mad (i attribute my rhymes to my new avatar). btw nobody solely spammed "U MAD," but you can keep inventing some victim complex.

I appreciate the new patch notes Sanjay, it really helps people like me that always read patch notes and hero abilities.

p.s: I need to play Kunkka more in salthouses, my kunkka is some next level shizz.

 

[Quadratic]

I'm a fairly new Dota player and watching live streams (which I do more than playing). I notice no pro uses Drow Ranger. I see her a ton in pubs, where if she's carried properly can destroy other heroes. Is the reason why she's not used because of her AoE silence isn't useful in team fights with it's small AoE?

 

[Archie]

Easily ganked with no escape, and there are safer carries available (Morph, Anti-Fun, Riki, etc). She can work in an aura strat, but it takes one ban to shut that down.

 

[xero273]

I'm a fairly new Dota player and watching live streams (which I do more than playing). I notice no pro uses Drow Ranger. I see her a ton in pubs, where if she's carried properly can destroy other heroes. Is the reason why she's not used because of her AoE silence isn't useful in team fights with it's small AoE?

i think pretty much everyone in here will say she is squishy and has no real way to escape. also there are other better carry heroes.

 

[JustinBB7]

I'm a fairly new Dota player and watching live streams (which I do more than playing). I notice no pro uses Drow Ranger. I see her a ton in pubs, where if she's carried properly can destroy other heroes. Is the reason why she's not used because of her AoE silence isn't useful in team fights with it's small AoE?

Just been a long discussion about that a few pages back (it actually happens once a week or so though) but the main reasons are no good escape/stun. And other carries can carry better.

 

[HenryHSH]

Although Milkman's Eth Blade/Dagon SD is still peerless (bonus: DOTAGAF showing EG.Demon and EG.Fear who's boss)
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Damn. I'd really like to see this through eg's stream.

 

[Togglesworlh]

Man, if you guys keep this up you are all going to get banned.

First crunchhongaf, then eurohongaf.

We can only hope.

...

Man, why is it that lately every time I have something I want to watch/record in a game I recently played, the replay is "unavailable". Rurghagh.

 

[1.09]

Damn. I'd really like to see this through eg's stream.

it's on demon's twitchtv. CBA looking it up though.

 

[Sanjay]

We can only hope.Man, why is it that lately every time I have something I want to watch/record in a game I recently played, the replay is "unavailable". Rurghagh.

Can anyone download this replay? Match ID 10989966, unavailable for me

Check back few days later, it'll shows up, well it did for me for this match that I wanted above and had the same problem as you but few days later I downloaded the replay fine.

 

[Forkball]

We need three Dota 2 threads.

One for actual game discussion.

One for match watching commentary.

One for adolescent trash talking.

 

[Artanisix]

This is exactly what happens when you base your entire argument on one screengrab. You have no idea what the context of that screenshot is, or why I was ranting in the first place. Instead we just default to LOL U MAD LOLOLOLOL.

Let me clarify the situation for you:

I'm sorry you had shitty teammates and all -- there tends to be an influx of ultra-bad players super late at night, I think because there are less players on, the matchmaking system has to pull from other brackets -- and whoever called you "bad" might have been uncalled for, but shittalking a general portion of the GAF community is equally uncalled for, don't you think? I mean sure, some of HONgaf love to trash talk (it's a part of how their friendship works, and I don't mind it; to them and to me it's just friendly banter), but not all of them communicate like that, and all of them post useful information too. No one is spamming U MAD... and no one called you bad in the thread... sooo it seems like you're overreacting. And I'm not even HONgaf.

Also I wasn't online for the first portion of your rant, I only logged on to watch some of my newbie friends play and help them out through steam messaging. Speaking of which, GAF is 100 times better for getting good information than a lot of other places out there. Sometimes misinformation gets posted but usually someone is quick to correct them.

p.s: I need to play Kunkka more in salthouses, my kunkka is some next level shizz.

#1 warder and gdlike firstblood

 

[rac]

We need three Dota 2 threads.

One for actual game discussion.

One for match watching commentary.

One for adolescent trash talking.

I think the most popular alternative dota thread will be the one for low level strategies.

 

[HK-47]

So why did half of hongaf get blasted off the forums like Team Rocket?

 

[Togglesworlh]

Check back few days later, it'll shows up, well it did for me for this match that I wanted above and had the same problem as you but few days later I downloaded the replay fine.

I hope so. I've had problems with other matches, too, that never ended up working. ):

 

[Drkirby]

Guys new patch codes is out:-

That's all of it.

That isn't a patch, that is an Item Schema change. You couldn't tell a subtitle script from a set of response rules. Clearly you have never played TF2.

That has to be a bug.

No, that is just what is supposed to happen. Once Netherstrike has been cast on you, you can't get away from it no matter how far you move.

 

[BigAT]

So why did half of hongaf get blasted off the forums like Team Rocket?

Personal attacks? I think.