Much easier for LoL to pump them out regularly due to the nature of how they design them to fit one of 5 roles. New heroes in Dota are a way bigger can of worms.
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Dota 2 - Monkey King (new hero) and the New Journey Update announced at TI6
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The thing about releasing heroes on a schedule is that it becomes a "hero factory". LoL has the problem where they design them, then they are OP or have some serious design flaws right out the gate, then have to be fixed and just irritates everyone. That's not to say a new hero still couldn't be OP in Dota, but the design is more thought out rather than being on a tight schedule for them.
No. Just no. if you're playing this game for "more new content" then you're playing this game for the wrong reasons
Supermanisdead
Member
should have made monkey queen instead.
killatopak
Member
It gets stale after a while though.
chaobreaker
Member
Pardon me for feeling that balance patches aren't enough to tide me over between the year long gulfs between new heroes.
jediyoshi
Member
I can't imagine someone would find that to be the case in the context of there "only" being 112 heroes.
Not pardoned.
Supermanisdead
Member
we got plenty of new heroes. who the hell even heard of shadow demon before this week
killatopak
Member
Well it's probably just me. I've played the game back when it was still version 6.24. Back in 2006.
Out of curiousity, how many matches of Dota have you played?
killatopak
Member
Probably in the tens of thousands or more . I can't really count the number of matches I had in Dota 1.
maniac-kun
Member
Journey update? Single player campaign?
Monkey Queen ain't the legend.
getting stale "after awhile" = "tens of thousands or more"
If only other games had that longevity before getting stale.
killatopak
Member
I wasn't referring to how long you've played anyway. I was mainly talking about Meta.
It also doesn't change the fact that it's stale if you're an old player. Meta takes a very long time to change so a couple of heroes get to be op for a long time. I was playing all these "New" heroes in dota 2 years before dota 2 actually released. Only thing that was really big was the map changes and a few items.
All my opinion of course.
I may get back to playing the game because of this new hero. I've been staying out of it for a long time now.
When did you last play? It sounds like you haven't even really touched Dota 2 at all. It also sounds like you have barely played since the 2006-ish era. I highly suggest trying again in Dota 2. You'll see that no game is ever the same, and while some may be similar because of the meta, that often changes with the patch, or new strats popping up.
killatopak
Member
I last played maybe late 2014 - early 2015. I was watching TI6 and I found a few changes that was pretty new to me. I think I saw 1-2-2 laning and I was a bit surprised cause 2-1-2 and 1-1-3 was the most common back then.
"New Journey" is probably referring to the fact that all future content is going to be brand new. It's a brave new world for Dota.
sleverfunk
Member
elder titan is the newest i think.
It's the best time to get back into dota. Plenty of new stuff for people that played it long ago.
That and the meta is the most balanced it's ever been. There aren't any super OP heroes that are ALWAYS picked like in past patches.
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Fuck.
lucebuce12
Member
Ouch.
ashecitism
Member
Gambler was a real old WC3 Dota hero who could do random huge damage and did more damage based on his own or his target's money on hand. Don't know the others.
Gambler was a real old WC3 Dota hero who could do random huge damage and did more damage based on his own or his target's money on hand. Don't know the others.
This has a fascinating look into a lot of old heroes:
http://eurobattle.net/threads/96299-The-worst-imbalances-in-dota-history?
Warning: this was written a fairly long time ago and the language here is definitely cringey.
Death Ward Riki also used to be a thing.
Probably a reference to Journey to the West, the source material for this interpretation of Sun Wukong. The update will probably be themed around it.
Was already a concept before lol came out as far as I remember. Riot stole most of the stuff from the old dota forums. idk if you know the whole Pendragon story, it's pretty damn pathetic.
No, Sun Wukong is a public domain character. We don't really know how long Icefrog had the idea either, other than it popping up as a secret boss two years ago.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Moba heroes are just like comic book heroes. You can never really know who had the idea first. Just roll with it.
Im barely learning about the whole thing, was mentioned in another thread, i just don't really have a good idea of how much into the life of LoL Wukong became playable.
That's what i was thinking, it just seemed weird to me that they chose that as their first new character given that pretty much gives fanboys ammo to go "OMGZ! WUKONG RIPOFF!"
Abilidebob
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It's a cool concept of a character that's already in Smite, HoN, LoL, and apparently even HoS. A "monkey king" hero could have been one of the hundreds of suggestions that were made back in the days, before Pendragon fucked the DotA community.