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Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter project by Double Fine [ended, $3.3 Million funded]
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They already do - to retailers, and it's a MUCH bigger chunk than Kickstarter gets.
Because it isn't. Profit in the standard dev/pub relationship the the amount of money above cost that investors insist on seeing. Your standard employee working on the game isn't really going to see any of that, their salary is covered in the cost.
Double fine doesn't need profit so much in this case because everyone's salary is being covered in the development cost alone, which has already been paid for. They don't need to hit some profit number to please investors.
You're going to keep posting that until it's done, aren't you.
Seems to be working though since you got some of my money, woo! I have a project I wanted to get support through Kickstarter on, but being a UK citizen I'm not eligible. Ho hum. :COn topic...
I don't think companies will try and exploit Kickstarter directly for their AAA blockbusters, that will stay safely in the realm of indies and small time developers... but I could probably see them get together their own crowdsourcing models through controlled avenues. I could see EA using it to fund a smaller-budgeted range of titles to guarantee success or failure and using it to produce titles of, say, Boom Blox level of production. Honestly, if that happened, I wouldn't mind, as long as they didn't try and fob us off with a bunch of prerendered attract videos being passed off as gameplay material or abuse it with the offer of exclusive gameplay elements/DLC. Gamers scorn deeply, so it's in their best interest to be honest or face a series of potentially good ideas falling in on themselves.
GhostWriter24
Member
Don't encourage them...please...
I still don't understand what the problem is. Even if they did it and it was a huge success, how does that effect whether or not small games get funded? Money spent on gaming would just move from retail to the publisher directly.
charlequin
Banned
I'm not sure what form of "abuse" is going to happen here exactly. Kickstarter projects are all or nothing; if a project doesn't at very minimum provide a copy of the game to every contributor over (some reasonable price) it won't get funded.
You have a seriously weird and twisted concept of what Kickstarter is. The site's goal is to make money by providing crowdsourced funding assistance to creative projects. They were never "PBS-esque"; the idea is very purely capitalist, on a very base level. If big companies want to dive into the pool, they'll have to figure out a way to succeed under the rules that already exist. If they offer something that people want, that's good because it drives up the userbase and thereby gets more eyes on smaller projects (just like is already happening thanks to Double Fine.) If they don't, they will make zero money on the whole effort and pack their bags anyway.
plagiarize
Banned
if the amount of money made keeps dropping by half each day, we're looking at just shy of 2 million. that's my prediction for now.
hope they can go past 2 million though... but even so. every time that figure goes up, it makes me smile.
hope they can go past 2 million though... but even so. every time that figure goes up, it makes me smile.
As much as I dislike EA, it wouldn't be bad
"spend $30 or so towards this project and you'll get the game!"
again, if it doesn't go through you get your money back
it's not a bad idea at all, projects would live and die (at conception)by the consumer...
a brave new world
brianmcdoogle
Member
But do you see EA doing that for thirty? I can see them forcing it at 60, and with how cheap people can be, they will probably pass and assume they can get it on sale for 30 in a week or two.
Still not seeing how that's a problem. If anything, it will help drive down costs as the publisher is setting the price, not retailers.
Basileus777
Member
Will it get another 500k in two days? Soultron's ban bet is probably going to be a real close affair.
then the project dies and EA is one less project
it all depends on the dev really. i like to imagine the consumers directly funding development will mean lower cost at retail, but hey it is EA
It has slowed down to a crawl, who knows.
Callibretto
Member
holy shit. $1.5mil in 2 days? isn't there going to be a limit to this? how much the game's development cost gonna be anyway.
edit: ok, juts visit that site and they already surpass the required fund 2 times over. they better make it available on Vita. I'll be donating $30 because I'm not in the US and can't get the benefit of framed poster etc.
what will happen if the game is bad, or something happened to the projects?
SomeOneInaHat
Member
They've stated before that some of their previous XBLA efforts cost upwards to $3 million. Any extra funds pasted their initial goal of $400,000 will/should be put to good use.
Edit: 3000+ people are guaranteed to be included in the game's credits, crazy.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I'm sure this makes sense to hipsters.
I'll back games that I want to see made, especially in underserved genres.
When it ends.
ScoobyMaroon
Neo Member
I liked Wombat from CAG's idea that they should just use like a million and pay the rest forward to another indie studio (or at this rate several studios) to make games. I could see a lot of backers getting upset though.
That's charity, and it's against the Kickstarter terms of service.
ah ok thanks. Also, does it charge me at the end of the kickstarter campaign or the date listed on Amazon Payment page. For example, it says "Valid from: Feb 10th 2012...Valid Until: June 11th 2012"?
*edit* Nevermind I found it on the site. March 13th. Damn, I wanted to do the $1000, but just cannot afford it at the moment.
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I think, I remember reading that The Dig was the adventure game with the biggest budget at its time. About 10 million? I'm not sure. The Last Express should be in that ballpark, too. (Edit: TLE was 6 million.)
Syberia and Broken Sword both had about 2 million, I believe, Blade Runner wasn't cheap either. CMI shouldn't have been that expansive. Not sure about the Gabriel Knight series.
I don't see what kind of problem it'd be if EA etc. jumped on this. There's no reason for them to put up huge series like BF, COD on it since they already make their budgets back tenfold without having to give away rewards to funders. If anything it could help them to offset the risk of taking on smaller projects and maybe actually get them going if there's enough interest (though I even doubt that since $1.5M is a piss in the ocean for these publishers).
Plus it's kind off pissing some funders in the face. They're putting their money in to getting a DF game to be as good as possible, not fund totally different projects. Now some would probably appreciate getting more games going with their money but those projects should be funded separately in the same way.
Anticitizen One
Banned
What was the budget for games like grim fandango is 1.5 mil comparable?
I mean if their gonna do an adventure game they should do a full fledged adventure game not a low budget nostalgia trip like mega man 9
I mean if their gonna do an adventure game they should do a full fledged adventure game not a low budget nostalgia trip like mega man 9
He said three million on twitter.
Schafer said it was in the neighborhood of 3 million, I think. Bear in mind this was 1998-dollars funding a game being developed with 1998 technology.
rainking187
Member
Why not? Browse through the current music section on Kickstarter and see how long it takes to get to the end.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Yeah I am kind of sweating right now. It has literally stopped... what gives?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Plus a lot of people don't see Child's Play as a worthwhile charity, and would pissed off if their money went to it.
I decided to watch Full Throttle walkthrough and suddenly got tear-eyed. So many memories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqrSnRaK88
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YqrSnRaK88
Anticitizen One
Banned
Ugh then we have a ways to go then
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
They should focus on making a good game, the game they want to make, and that's it. "Full fledged" does not mean anything.
You can pledge your money, but you can't start your project if you aren't in the US.
They probably have someone in the US handling their finances.
See the following entry in the kickstarter faq.
Kickstarter faq said:
They say they are working on making it more available to other countries.
ThaddeusMcGee
Member
There isn't any problem, really. I'm sure EA and Activision will test the waters eventually, now. That scenario could generate some great games. The great thing about this is that suddenly developers and fans can be in the driver's seat, not publishers and all their built-in marketing baggage.
I donated to DoubleFine, but I'm saving my 800 million dollar contribution for Toys For Bob, for a new Star Control.