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Dragon Age: Origins: Awakenings: Trailers

Yasae

Banned
Mr. Durden said:
Cheap ass bitches like you make me sick. The fact that you're able to play this game at such a low price shows there's no justice in this world. Paying 40$ for 15-20 hours of gameplay is not expenisve at all, most fullpriced games are only at 8-12 hours of gameplay, so shut the fuck up and if you don't wanna pay, be a cheap ass bitch like before, and wait till the price drops.
Token chaotic neutral response. Very in character.
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
TheExodu5 said:
Yes, that's my question: why do we keep hearing 15-20 hours? There is no such official statement on the length. This is all speculation.
Yeah, as far as I can tell the 15 hour figure is based on a single post in an old thread with a GAFfer guessing at the length.
 

Benson

Member
2.5 – Will my items, armor, stats, etc transfer over if I import my character from Dragon Age: Origins?

Almost all items are imported with your character. The only exceptions are the Origins promotional items and DLC loot, which were meant for Origins alone.

That's not good, I think my character is almost enitrely decked out in those items, blood dragon armour and 2h starfang. There had better be some good loot early on or I'm doing it naked it seems!
 

cabottemp

Banned
Mr. Durden said:
Cheap ass bitches like you make me sick. The fact that you're able to play this game at such a low price shows there's no justice in this world. Paying 40$ for 15-20 hours of gameplay is not expenisve at all, most fullpriced games are only at 8-12 hours of gameplay, so shut the fuck up and if you don't wanna pay, be a cheap ass bitch like before, and wait till the price drops.

I believe the phrase is: u mad?

In all seriousness though, while I do agree that 40 bucks is a fair price for this game, money doesn't go on trees. Even people that DO have a lot of money most likely have a priority list and as much as they like games, this expansion pack isn't on said list. Or maybe people just like saving in general and will wait for a price drop *shruggs*. No need to be so hostile, dude.
 

witness

Member
Benson said:
That's not good, I think my character is almost enitrely decked out in those items, blood dragon armour and 2h starfang. There had better be some good loot early on or I'm doing it naked it seems!

What a bunch of crap, I need to raid other characters gear now. Hopefully I left some good stuff at wardens keep to......ridiculous that you can't keep that gear.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Mr. Durden said:
Cheap ass bitches like you make me sick. The fact that you're able to play this game at such a low price shows there's no justice in this world. Paying 40$ for 15-20 hours of gameplay is not expenisve at all, most fullpriced games are only at 8-12 hours of gameplay, so shut the fuck up and if you don't wanna pay, be a cheap ass bitch like before, and wait till the price drops.
Have you ever even watched or read Fight Club?

It just seems a little odd for you to be saying this if you're named after a text that's so anti-corporate.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Have you ever even watched or read Fight Club?

It just seems a little odd for you to be saying this if you're named after a text that's so anti-corporate.
Do your rituals occur weekly or bi-weekly?
 
Dance In My Blood said:
Have you ever even watched or read Fight Club?

It just seems a little odd for you to be saying this if you're named after a text that's so anti-corporate.
Yes I have read the book and watched the film... so what? Guess you have as well... so what's changed now?

This side of GAF is the Gaming side. Here we talk about the games we bought or wanna buy.

Odious Tea already said what needed to be said though.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
It's a bit weak that you can't import your DLC stuff. I mean people paid for them. Our characters are gonna be half naked when we will import? I mean everything that was from Shale's story, Warden's keep, Return to Ostagar, the blood dragon armor and all the promo items are gone.

The no romance thing was predictable. The expansion is supposed to be quite short anyway. I guess it was also complicated to make it fair to everybody too. They would need 4 romance options again to keep all the possibilities.

Oghren being the returning character is disappointing for me. I never used him and when I talked to him he would always insult my character. I called it from the first trailer he would be the returning one. At the same time, he is the only logical choice. He is the only character that cannot be easily killed in the game. The only way to kill him is to get his approval to -100 which require using the console on the PC version. Even if you killed him, he is still mentionned in the epilogue panels in the end.

Bringing back a dead warden is kinda wonky. It kinda makes your sacrifice easy if you did it. It seems the game will have a canon starting story. On Bioware forum people analysed the epilogue and confirmed that nothing happens with the variable for the coronation ceremony/epilogue. So it seems no matter what you did your warden is alive and chose to rebuild the grey wardens.

From the new faq it seems we know at least two choices that will be important.
Choosing Alistair or Anora for the throne. And Saving or not the circle of the Magi (if you don't side with the mage you kill Wynne, and she is supposed to appear in awakening according to the faq)

6 new specialisations and many new spells and abilities is awesome. Too bad it seems you can't use all of these new abilities in origins. That was the fun thing with BG 2/ ToB, trying out the new kits.

It's probably gonna be a very strong expansion pack but I'm sure they will get many complains from the fans. I will be there day one but I must admit that 40$ is a bit steep when the full game was 60$.
 
How do you pull off Oghren insulting your character? He's probably the easiest character to keep at positive approval. Yeah, he's not too kind to you at first, but he's a true bro, easy to become friends with.

I am personally glad Oghren is coming back. He doesn't see as much playtime as other characters, and is the one character that really needs a spotlight.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Basileus777 said:
Where did you get this impression from?

Well on the DA:A forum on Bioware's social site one of the mod (or dev?) hinted that every items and new abilities were meant to be in Awakening only. Same like the DLC loot were meant for Origins only. He also clearly stated that once you import you character in Awakening, you can no longer import it back in Origins to play the DLC for origins.

Maybe it was one of the mods that was confused. It happened a lot on the ME forums.
 
Vamphuntr said:
Well on the DA:A forum on Bioware's social site one of the mod (or dev?) hinted that every items and new abilities were meant to be in Awakening only. Same like the DLC loot were meant for Origins only. He also clearly stated that once you import you character in Awakening, you can no longer import it back in Origins to play the DLC for origins.

Maybe it was one of the mods that was confused. It happened a lot on the ME forums.

Well, maybe it's another thing mods will have to fix.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Here is a comprehensive list of stuff you won't be able to import (DLC). It's quite massive to be honest. Hopefully mods will correct this.

From http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/127/index/1180276/4

The Stone Prisoner:

Blood-Gorged Amulet
Cadash Stompers
Cord of Shattered Dreams
Dead Thaig Shanker
Harvest Festival Ring
Helm of Honnleath
Wilhelm's Magus Staff

Warden's Keep

Antique Warden Crossbow
Asturian's Might
Robes of Avernus
Shadow Belt
Starfang (Greatsword)
Starfang (Longsword)
Warden Commander Armor Set
Warden's Tower Shield
Winter's Breath

Return to Ostagar:

Cailan's Armor Set
Cailan's Shield
Corrupted Magister's Staff
Duncan's Dagger
Duncan's Sword
Firestone Harness
Maric's Blade
Nug Crusher
Repeater Gloves
Swiftrunner Warpaint

Misc DLC Gear:

Memory Band
Feral Wolf Charm
Guildmaster's Belt
Band of Fire
Dalish Promise Ring
CE Bergen's Honor, Grimoire of the Frozen Wastes, Final Reason
The Edge
Embri's Many Pockets
Helm of the Deep
The Lucky Stone
The Lion's Paw
Blood Dragon Armor
Mark of Vigilance
Amulet of the War Mage
The Wicked Oath
 

Durante

Member
This DLC issue is just a clusterfuck of epic proportions. How did they manage to fail so badly in execution? Seriously.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Durante said:
This DLC issue is just a clusterfuck of epic proportions. How did they manage to fail so badly in execution? Seriously.

I don't think it is a decision but much more a technical problem. I suppose maybe it's due to the console version. Maybe the game cannot scan DLC for another game because of some rules by MS or Sony. I don't see any reason why they would want you to lose your DLC loot aside from a technical difficulty or maybe they are planning to release DLC for Awakening and want you to buy them to get more exclusive items.

At least the website seems to imply that there will be many new areas and that is a very good thing.
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
Wait, Oghren is the returning character? I thought they said it would be a returning favorite, that doesn't seem to add up. Morrigan or Alistar wouldn't make sense, but I was hoping for Shale, Sten or Snuggles the War Dog at least. Thankfully I don't have to keep him around so he'll just stay back at the camp site again. To be fair, I am prejudiced against the foul beasts called Dwarves, never liked them, so I am a little biased.

I'm still on board, though. I'm working on finishing playthrough 2 in time for Awakenings so I can import my badass Elf Mage, he's a total dick but in a charming way. Kind of sucks that there seems to be 2 new elf mages, but it could be cool to roll with 3 elf mages at the same time.
 

mikeGFG

Banned
cabot said:
I believe the phrase is: u mad?

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this made me laugh for no apparent reason.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Snuggler said:
Wait, Oghren is the returning character? I thought they said it would be a returning favorite, that doesn't seem to add up. Morrigan or Alistar wouldn't make sense, but I was hoping for Shale, Sten or Snuggles the War Dog at least. Thankfully I don't have to keep him around so he'll just stay back at the camp site again. To be fair, I am prejudiced against the foul beasts called Dwarves, never liked them, so I am a little biased.

I'm still on board, though. I'm working on finishing playthrough 2 in time for Awakenings so I can import my badass Elf Mage, he's a total dick but in a charming way. Kind of sucks that there seems to be 2 new elf mages, but it could be cool to roll with 3 elf mages at the same time.

One of the dev responded to this.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/127/index/1266679&lf=8

We said "an old favorite" - not "your favorite" or "the favorite". Some folks love him, some don't. That's the same of almost all of the companions in DA. He's really good in Awakening (but I'm an Oghren fan). If you don't like him, leave him by the curb and grab some of the other companions instead. :)
 

Azrael

Member
It would be nice if there was an option for players who
made the ultimate sacrifice
to import their save without importing their character, allowing them to play as a new Orlesian Grey Warden while the game world still reflected the choices the player made in Origins, perhaps including a chest in Vigil's Keep that contains the inventory the player acquired in Origins. I don't mind the option of importing a character and hand waving it away being present, but it's not an option I would use myself, and I would still like my choices in Origins to have consequences in Awakenings.
 
I feel bad that Wynne and Oghren are the only two characters I didn't bother doing the sidequests for. I suppppppppppppose I can fix that before the Awakenings comes out though.
 

Vamphuntr

Member

witness

Member
As much as I love me some Bioware and Dragon Age, this is fucking terrible. For all of us who have character decked out in DLC gear and no alternatives other than shitty vendor trash gear, there needs to be something that happens at the beginning that gives you some armor/weapons.
 

Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
Azrael said:
It would be nice if there was an option for players who
made the ultimate sacrifice
to import their save without importing their character, allowing them to play as a new Orlesian Grey Warden while the game world still reflected the choices the player made in Origins, perhaps including a chest in Vigil's Keep that contains the inventory the player acquired in Origins. I don't mind the option of importing a character and hand waving it away being present, but it's not an option I would use myself, and I would still like my choices in Origins to have consequences in Awakenings.

I thought I read somewhere that you could start a new character that would be a Grey Warden from another land.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Stallion Free said:
I thought I read somewhere that you could start a new character that would be a Grey Warden from another land.

Yes but you don't import a save that carry your choices. What he meant is that he wanted to keep his dead character dead and carry his choices in a Orlesian warden game.
 

Snuggles

erotic butter maelstrom
As much as I love me some Bioware and Dragon Age, this is fucking terrible. For all of us who have character decked out in DLC gear and no alternatives other than shitty vendor trash gear, there needs to be something that happens at the beginning that gives you some armor/weapons.

I'm not too concerned about it since I only had the Blood Dragon armor, I just ditched it in my current playthrough since I'm a mage. Have you got the Juggernaut Armor? It's pretty good for a warrior, should carry over.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
Tokubetsu said:
More fucking dwarves, great -_-

We have this new female Dwarve + Oghren. One elven mage and one Human mage. That means we will get one human rogue and on elven rogue?

It's weird that both dwarve seems to be warrior. If you don't like them and your Warden is a mage then too bad for you :lol .
 

Tokubetsu

Member
Vamphuntr said:
We have this new female Dwarve + Oghren. One elven mage and one Human mage. That means we will get one human rogue and on elven rogue?

It's weird that both dwarve seems to be warrior. If you don't like them and your Warden is a mage then too bad for you :lol .

I have a noble warrior im working on right now but my original PC is an city elf rogue. I just have something against dwarves :lol. Oghren was the only character I didn't spend time talking to. I had to pretty much grit my teeth all of Deep Roads etc.
 

Ceebs

Member
Vamphuntr said:
We have this new female Dwarve + Oghren. One elven mage and one Human mage. That means we will get one human rogue and on elven rogue?

It's weird that both dwarve seems to be warrior. If you don't like them and your Warden is a mage then too bad for you :lol .

According to the Giant Bomb preview the new female dwarf is a rogue.

As for the items and such, if you are playing the PC version there will be day one mods to get the DLC items in the expansion and I am sure or at least an item pack with the high level Origins stuff for people that have their Warden decked out in stuff not transferring..
 

Acosta

Member
I wonder what happen if I import a modified character to awakening. I have installed a shitload of stuff, including some great hair styles, so I would like to know if they could be translated to the expansion, does anyone have experience with the effects of mods on expansions?
 

Edgeward

Member
The fact that some of the decisions made no longer carries the same weight it did when you ahd to make them with this expansion is a major disappointment, and so is the DLC problem as well. But goddamit, I love DA so damn much that I'll still get it because I need more of it. Damn you Bioware! Damn you!
 

Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
Vamphuntr said:
Yes but you don't import a save that carry your choices. What he meant is that he wanted to keep his dead character dead and carry his choices in a Orlesian warden game.

Oh that is a bummer. I assumed when they said if you died, that you would be another Grey Warden, but it would be based off continuing your story/save. :(
 

Ceebs

Member
Acosta said:
I wonder what happen if I import a modified character to awakening. I have installed a shitload of stuff, including some great hair styles, so I would like to know if they could be translated to the expansion, does anyone have experience with the effects of mods on expansions?
It depends on how the mod is setup. Some of the hairstyles are set to override the defaults in the game, while other are additional hairstyles added on. The replacement hair meshes should be easy, just give them the proper name and put them in the right directory. The others will probably require the toolset. For instance, I did a reinstall of Origins and force loaded up a modded save without the mods and my character had a large transparent area where the hair should have been. All I had to do to get the hair back was pull the hair mesh file from the mod and add it back to my character's face morph with the toolset. I am guessing the same will apply to the expansion. Same would go for eyes, skin, ect.
 

Vamphuntr

Member
A new QA is up on Bioware forum. It's mostly them replying to people complains.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/127/index/1321833/1#1322475

Hi all,

We've been watching your questions here on the forums and have compiled a list of answers to some of the questions we see come up over and over. We hope you enjoy and that this clears up some details for you. We'll keep watching for more community questions that we can provide answers to in future updates.

Why don’t my DLC items carry forward?
The rewards in Awakening quickly outpace the best items you’d find from Origins and Origins’ DLC. The root of the issue is that the previously released DLC was not built in such a way that those DLC items import properly into Awakening.

Rather than spending the resources addressing this thorny issue in multiple DLCs, we spent our time adding features and polish that made Awakening better. We believed that since the gear was quickly replaced that this wasn’t a major issue. We are currently investigating solutions for a possible patch. Some silver lining to this, the “Power of Blood” abilities from Warden’s Keep do import properly into Awakening.

Should I gear up in standard Origins gear before loading my save game into Awakenings?
It’s a good idea to wear your best gear going into Awakenings but we said above, don’t expect to be wearing it for too long. The challenges in Awakening are greater, but so are the rewards. There are lot of very nice upgrades to be found in stores, the fresh corpses of fallen foes, and sometimes with the help of a rogue’s lockpicking skills.

Why don’t any of my Origins followers come across except Oghren?
We wanted to tell new stories in Awakening and introduce a new memorable cast of characters. Thedas is a big place full of all sorts of exciting things we want to explore. The companions in Origins are still in the Dragon Age universe and possibly up to things you’ll see in the future.

Oghren was brought back for a variety of reasons. Most people did “Paragon of Her Kind” late in their Origins playthrough so even though he’s a great character he didn’t get much air time. A lot of folks loved him (not the least of which was the Awakening team) so we wanted to reprise his role and give him more time in the limelight. He’s a great addition to Awakening, adding levity at moments to otherwise heavy stories.

Why are there no romances in Awakening?
The story is primarily about the threats to Amaranthine, which if left unchecked could threaten Ferelden and more. The new companions were designed to be tightly integrated into that story. To make them romanceable characters we’d have designed them quite differently and would’ve changed several of the plots. We didn’t want to just tack on romance options. Short version – not all stories need to have a love interest.

What happened to my dog? Is he dead?
No, your dog isn’t dead. Your faithful hound is still out there. He’s just not on this adventure. We wanted to introduce new characters in Awakening and although Dog doesn’t speak – the loveable mutt still needs a lot of cinematic attention to bring to life. So we spent our time on new characters that are more tightly integrated into the story.

How many new mage spells will there be?
There are 2 new specializations and 2 new spell trees for all mages for a total of 16 new spells. We will update the FAQ to correct this information.

Will my choices be reflected at all in Awakening? For example, will Allistair, Logaine or Wynne react to decisions I made in Origins?
The cameos definitely react to your decisions in Origins. Depending on your Origin choices you may not even see them.
 

Ceebs

Member
HooYaH said:
Anyone know if you can transfer modded items? I like my armor.

*pic*

Where is the Leliana armor mod from? I do not recall seeing that exact model in the game. Wondering if it's a custom model.
 
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