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Dragon Age Spell combos: grease + fireball = grease fire. TOOLSET confirmed.
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Joseph Merrick
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tell that to denis dyack. you've made him cryChris Remo said:
Joseph Merrick
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first they pull the dumb logo crap then they show some awful lord of the rings movie style shit. what do you expectdude said:
Prime crotch
Banned
This was terrible, fucking terrible.
Chris Remo
Member
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but again, I haven't lost interest. I'm just not thrilled with what I've shown.dude said:
TemplaerDude
Member
that was mind fuckingly terrible.
Masta_Killah
Member
Trailer didn't impress me at all. From what I saw, it looks like that the trailer is running off the game engine in real time. If it is, then Bioware has a lot of work to do. After playing the cinematic Mass Effect, I expect Bioware to at least match the quality of that game, visual quality wise. Of course, this IS Bioware we're talking about, so I'm not too worried about the end result. Even Jade Empire, supposedly their worst game, was extremely enjoyable and was stunning visually for me.
Prime crotch
Banned
They could have shown me 40 secs of the UI and I would loved it instead of this, years of teasing and this is how they come out of their media blackout?!
That's my Game of Thrones inspired glorious return to PC gaming for Bioware? You guys didn't put up the trailer for Rings of the Lord by mistake?
VERILY THE BLIGHT OF THE LAND DOTH ENCROACH UPON US WITH HORNED MONSTERS OUT OF A THIRD TIER EA ART ASSEMBLY LINE
VERILY THE BLIGHT OF THE LAND DOTH ENCROACH UPON US WITH HORNED MONSTERS OUT OF A THIRD TIER EA ART ASSEMBLY LINE
They did overhype it with supposed 'dark fantasy' stuff, but it's not like Baldur's Gate was particularly dark. Orcs, elves, dwarves, gods, wizards, etc.
The trailer showed nothing, I am disappointed with the trailer.
EDIT: Also, I'm surprised nobody commented on the "For Whatever!" bit yet. Cringe worthy.
The trailer showed nothing, I am disappointed with the trailer.
EDIT: Also, I'm surprised nobody commented on the "For Whatever!" bit yet. Cringe worthy.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Yeah. I don't know if some internal Bioware team is handling the marketing, or maybe some EA people instead, but they should all be fired. RPGs are complex games that need to be really explained to people. You say your game is filled with George R. R. Martin-style moral complexity and surprises? Then show a scene that starts as typical fantasy and ends with a killer twist that changes the watcher's perception of the game and setting. You say you have RPG gameplay that has some depth and meat to it? Then show that damn gameplay; take an interesting chunk of the game and show some exploration, some conversations, some combat. People WILL sit through 20-minute videos detailing and showing off the game, as Blizzard has shown. So make one. Marketers in other fields would rape and murder if they could get people to voluntarily sit down and watch 20 minutes of promotion. But Bioware's marketing team took that opportunity and threw it away in favour of posting rickroll links for their fanbase and a horrible trailer that emphasizes the generic rather than the unique.Vaporak said:
I had a lot of confidence in this game. David Gaider's snippets of information on the official boards made me pretty confident that the team understood good RPG design, and I thought Bioware would be smart enough to satisfy the market segment that actually wants involved, deep, intelligent experiences. Now I'm in doubt about all that. Isn't that pretty much the worst thing a marketing team can do?
Way too short, but I'm not overly disappointed in what I've seen. Graphics looked up to snuff.
Can I ask the people going "oh this is not GRRM, disappointment total -1 sales" if they can name 30 seconds of reading in the GRRM books that does convey his style? Again, the trailer was too short to even tell anything about the game.
Can I ask the people going "oh this is not GRRM, disappointment total -1 sales" if they can name 30 seconds of reading in the GRRM books that does convey his style? Again, the trailer was too short to even tell anything about the game.
Metal Gear?!
Member
Not objectively bad, just very disappointing.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Who said they had to make a short trailer?Dina said:
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Is this trailer suggesting those large scale battles are playable? I hope.
Masta_Killah
Member
To be fair to Bioware, the trailer was more a teaser then a full blown trailer. Still, the bits and pieces they used and the message and direction of the teaser was poorly implemented.
They showed an amateur ripoff of LotR. The Eragon game had a better trailer. How is that not objectively bad? I think we can be quite confident of its objective badness here. Imagine if this was the teaser for Diablo III... which it could be from how generic it was. Ugh.Metal Gear?! said:
I can only echo the sentiments already expressed in this thread. It's just a teaser, but it's completely incongruous with everything they've said about the game so far, and everything that had the fans hyped. I can't say that I'm all that surprised at this though, not after the "Origins" logo.
I agree that it is too early to dismiss the game, and that it can still turn out good, or even fantastic.dude said:
But I think it is fair to say that Dragon Age is one of the worst marketed games in history so far. Maybe the idea is to lure in the hardcore with the Bioware comments in the official forums (which have been excellent so far), and lure in the more casual fratboy demographic with this trailer.
They certainly send out mixed signals, and make it easy to lose confidence in them. I just hope EA isn't retooling the game.
Chris Remo
Member
Man, I just watched it again.
God.
I assume I'll be seeing this during one of my EA meetings next week. I really hope they have something convincing to show. Even if the game is rad, the fact that it even contains a dude shouting "For [generic fantasy word]!" and cheesy Hollywood "fantasy" accents and yet another LOTR-style big pitched stand-off battle and a goddamn "blight" means I'm going to be cringing a lot anyway.
At this point I'm just so sick of things that desperately wish they were being directed by Peter Jackson. I'm really over it.
God.
I assume I'll be seeing this during one of my EA meetings next week. I really hope they have something convincing to show. Even if the game is rad, the fact that it even contains a dude shouting "For [generic fantasy word]!" and cheesy Hollywood "fantasy" accents and yet another LOTR-style big pitched stand-off battle and a goddamn "blight" means I'm going to be cringing a lot anyway.
At this point I'm just so sick of things that desperately wish they were being directed by Peter Jackson. I'm really over it.
And my axe.
Masta_Killah
Member
Anth said:
Daikatana? Too Human? It's just one teaser people, sheesh!
I'm not just talking about that one teaser. Dragon Age was announced four years ago and this is the first we have seen of it. That's a marketing clusterfuck right there. Sure, that's mostly because they announced it way too early, but that is part of marketing.Masta_Killah said:
If you compare the way Bioware handled Dragon Age to the way Blizzard handled Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2, it is easy to see why one company makes so much more money than the other.
DemonCleaner
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thought this looked good until i read this thread