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godhandiscen said:
So yesterday I played a little bit of The Witcher and it looks better than what was shown in this trailer. Anybody finds similarities between The Witcher and this game?
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Despite the poor translation, the writing in the Witcher is also superior to the Bioware stuff. The Witcher guys have figured out that you don't need crushing amounts of exposition, repetition and multiple needless descriptors to tell an interactive story. At this point, looking forward to the new Witcher more than Lord of the Rings: Dragon Age
 
Catchpenny said:
Something isn't right about this trailer. You can't hide the truth, Bioware!
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This is hilarious. :lol

Lilsnubby said:
Despite the poor translation, the writing in the Witcher is also superior to the Bioware stuff. The Witcher guys have figured out that you don't need crushing amounts of exposition, repetition and multiple needless descriptors to tell an interactive story. At this point, looking forward to the new Witcher more than Lord of the Rings: Dragon Age
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I wanted to like the Witcher, but the dialog was so lifeless. Most of the conversations consisted of people saying "Mmm-hmm" back and forth for five minutes. I gave up in Chapter 4 when I realised I simply didn't care about any of the characters. I can't even remember what the plot was about. The Salamanders stole a potion from the Witchers and uh...

I'm not trying to "Defend the Bioware hive" or anything here, but I genuinely strongly disliked the Witcher on its own merits.

EDIT: Just watched that second trailer, holy shit, how many units are on screen?
 
EA seems to be delivering all the best PC games.

Oh. my. god.

I think I love EA.

:O

edit: WOAH

People think this is underwhelming? What the hell? It looks awesome. They haven't even shown anything from the game, but that little battle thing looks promising and badass.
 
Catchpenny said:
Something isn't right about this trailer. You can't hide the truth, Bioware!
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As much as Youtube comments are a cesspool, there are some amazing ones for that vid.

This footage PROVES without a doubt that there was something going on during the battle that the citizens of Feraldan have not been told about. How long will the government try to keep us in the dark? THE HOUSE OF CARDS IS FALLING DOWN, gentlemen, and you have a responsibility to YOUR PEOPLE to come clean.
Those of us seeking the TRUTH are not unreasonable, but if the fall of that tower was due to TREASON, we demand that the guilty get their just deserts, no matter how HIGH UP THIS GOES.
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Whatever, everyone knows that fireballs travel using scram physics and so there would be a forwards low pressure atomspheric hole which would pull the blocks of the arch towards it with force. This is what happens, the bricks clearly fly towards the fireball as it approaches. The flash is also easily explained as the result of the arch's very delicate magical structure being damaged which causes energy to be rapidly released.

You kids need to stop doing the drugs and stay in school.
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It doesn't look all that..........original. I dunno, there are far too many medieval type games and just based on visuals itself, they aren't different from the pact.
 
Kadey said:
It doesn't look all that..........original. I dunno, there are far too many medieval type games and just based on visuals itself, they aren't different from the pact.
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The thing is, they're going for dark and gritty George R R Martin style fantasy, which is why they're sticking to more traditional medieval-inspired fantasy settings. The problem is, judging from these trailers, they don't quite have an idea of what it is that makes the setting of his A Song of Ice and Fire books so good.
 
The thing is, they're going for dark and gritty George R R Martin style fantasy, which is why they're sticking to more traditional medieval-inspired fantasy settings
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The problem there is that GRRM's world is inspired by real medieval armor and architecture, not the overly grandiose and fancy stuff thats associated with Tolkien and D&D. Additionally, as of yet no orcish armies have appeared in ASoIaF, and you sure as hell wouldn't see the king and his men running into battle without a fucking helmet. All that overdone armor kind of goes to waste when you run into battle with nothing but the hair on your head to protect the old cranium.
 
JasonUresti said:
The problem there is that GRRM's world is inspired by real medieval armor and architecture, not the overly grandiose and fancy stuff thats associated with Tolkien and D&D. Additionally, as of yet no orcish armies have appeared in ASoIaF, and you sure as hell wouldn't see the king and his men running into battle without a fucking helmet. All that overdone armor kind of goes to waste when you run into battle with nothing but the hair on your head to protect the old cranium.
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Thanks...you worded that much better than I would have.
 
I'm being reserved on this until I actually get a chance to play it. BioWare are just that type of company that you don't know how their games will go until you play it yourself and not rely on other peoples opinions.
 
Kittonwy said:
I wish the characters in the trailer were more interesting and enigmatic.
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About to say the same thing.

The first Mass Effect trailer I watched was worlds better than this. (Granted, I didn't watch The First Trailer until the day gameplay videos were released.)

I'm a fan of bother Old and New Bioware, but this is just... not good. Hopefully the end result is much more appealing.
JasonUresti said:
Additionally, as of yet no orcish armies have appeared in ASoIaF, and you sure as hell wouldn't see the king and his men running into battle without a fucking helmet.
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What about those... things. That are in the very beginning of the first book. I don't have any fucking clue what they are. I know they're not orcs, but they also weren't human. Were they? It's been a long while since I read the first book, and my memory's failing me miserably at the moment, so maybe I'm making things up.

(Don't spoil anything, I'm only just starting the third book! Just thought I'd bring it up, in case it was even remotely relevant, which it probably isn't! It was probably a mistake to bring it up!)
 
Well these were certainly extremely crappy teasers, but they're still *teasers*. You can't show much grit in 30 seconds or hell much of anything, world, characters, gameplay, anything.

All we can say at this point about Dragon Age was that it has extremely bad teasers and a totally underwhelming debut. Also that Bioware completely does not know what a fanbase that has been starved for information for years and years needs from an unveiling (actual MEATY INFORMATION LIKE WHAT BLIZZARD SHOWS).

Of course Blizzard is completely in charge of its own destiny while Bioware is probably being led around by EA marketing.

Heck Bioware's always has been kinda led around by clueless marketing people. Fer example:
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Judging from the reactions here and in other forums, it seems to me that Bioware, or at least the marketing department, is completely out of touch with its fanbase. The teasers have created lots of backlash.

You don't go around touting a fresh take on fantasy, and then show off the "epic" battle of Humans against Orcs. Especially not when people buy your games for writing instead of graphics.
 
Lilsnubby said:
Despite the poor translation, the writing in the Witcher is also superior to the Bioware stuff. The Witcher guys have figured out that you don't need crushing amounts of exposition, repetition and multiple needless descriptors to tell an interactive story. At this point, looking forward to the new Witcher more than Lord of the Rings: Dragon Age
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Man, my problem with the Witcher is that the game flatout crashes to the desktop when I get to the spot where I need to make my first potion. Both in WinXP with my gaming rig and also in Vista with my laptop
 
TheOneGuy said:
What about those... things. That are in the very beginning of the first book. I don't have any fucking clue what they are. I know they're not orcs, but they also weren't human. Were they? It's been a long while since I read the first book, and my memory's failing me miserably at the moment, so maybe I'm making things up.

(Don't spoil anything, I'm only just starting the third book! Just thought I'd bring it up, in case it was even remotely relevant, which it probably isn't! It was probably a mistake to bring it up!)
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They show up again in the third book.

I think the key difference between ASoIaF and LOTR: Origins, at least as far as monsters is concerned, is that ASoIaF treats them like it treats all magic, as this kind of mysterious, infrequent stuff. Weird. Spooky. Nobody's tossing fireballs or anything like that.
 
Draft said:
They show up again in the third book.

I think the key difference between ASoIaF and LOTR: Origins, at least as far as monsters is concerned, is that ASoIaF treats them like it treats all magic, as this kind of mysterious, infrequent stuff. Weird. Spooky. Nobody's tossing fireballs or anything like that.
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Aha. I have been on the third chapter for several months now. "Just starting." D: Really need to get to that.

And, yeah, I really like that about ASoIaF. It's refreshingly unique in that aspect.

I was kind of hoping to see that sort of thing in DA. (But not really expecting, since the name of the game IS Dragon Age.) But if they can successfully get all the politics and shit at a level even half as good as ASoIaF, I will be happy.

Can't wait to see a real trailer. ):
 
TheOneGuy said:
Don't spoil anything[/B], I'm only just starting the third book! Just thought I'd bring it up, in case it was even remotely relevant, which it probably isn't! It was probably a mistake to bring it up!)
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I wish I could read a storm of swords for the first time again. About halfway through it serious shit starts to happen and you won't be able to put it down.

As for Dragon Age I'm still excited for it, bioware makes good games. But this passed week of "hype" has been terrible. I think(hope) there'll me more at E3 that's of actual substance.
 
Anth said:
Judging from the reactions here and in other forums, it seems to me that Bioware, or at least the marketing department, is completely out of touch with its fanbase. The teasers have created lots of backlash.

You don't go around touting a fresh take on fantasy, and then show off the "epic" battle of Humans against Orcs. Especially not when people buy your games for writing instead of graphics.
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To be honest, this is a completely different fan base than what they've been concerned about for the last half decade. Expectations are different from people who think about BG2 rather than kotor when they think about bioware.

I realize that they did piss off a lot of the former with the trailers, but I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the belly-aching is coming from people who wouldn't even have picked it up in the first place, just like all the people who instantly yell "generic" as soon as crysis is mentioned.
 
Spoit said:
To be honest, this is a completely different fan base than what they've been concerned about for the last half decade. Expectations are different from people who think about BG2 rather than kotor when they think about bioware.

I realize that they did piss off a lot of the former with the trailers, but I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the belly-aching is coming from people who wouldn't even have picked it up in the first place, just like all the people who instantly yell "generic" as soon as crysis is mentioned.
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On the contrary, I feel many, like myself, are unhappy and "belly aching" because we were intrigued by Bioware's hype talk of going against the grain and having a fresh take on medieval fantasy, and looked forward to seeing if Dragon Age would deliver.
 
Hey, at least it's top down! Keeping my hopes up for this game, but after Jade Empire and Mass Effect, I ought to be a bit aware. :)
 
Nah, but it's invigorating that it's top-down with apparently decent, gritty art. I really hope it turns out well and takes cues from the NWN2 expansion and, of course, BG2.
 
Me isa happy some of the members/mods/admins here share the same passion as me when it comes to top down RPG's. I'm not alone, woot.
 
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