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Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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The universe 6
Saiyan stuff is the most interesting stuff I have heard from DB in a long time. Which is funny because I don't like the Saiyans that much.
 
Finally got around to watching the Super version of the Gohan vs Frieza "fight".

They somehow managed to make it even more humiliating. I could only laugh at the level of trolling.
 
Infighting.

Even Vegeta during the saiyan saga was able to destroy a planet so it ain't too difficult.

Oh right, I forgot about that.

The universe 6
Saiyan stuff is the most interesting stuff I have heard from DB in a long time. Which is funny because I don't like the Saiyans that much.

I wonder if the reason the U7 Saiyans went bad is because of Beerus. This was a fact in the early draft of Battle of Gods before Toriyama got involved and rewrote the story, but it would make sense in light of this new info.
 
Oh right, I forgot about that.



I wonder if the reason the U7 Saiyans went bad is because of Beerus. This was a fact in the early draft of Battle of Gods before Toriyama got involved and rewrote the story, but it would make sense in light of this new info.

It is completely possible that
Beerus tolerated Freeza, and seemed to have an interest in him...maybe as a successor? while Champa may have put a stop to those shenanigans and helped put Frost on the throne

Hit's bio makes it seem like he might be a villain.

It could very well be that
as U7 earth is switched to U6, Hit demands to be switched to U7, where he could rampage unopposed
 
Finally got around to watching the Super version of the Gohan vs Frieza "fight".

They somehow managed to make it even more humiliating. I could only laugh at the level of trolling.

Except this time is was a massive set up unlike the movie, which fans were rewarded for during the latest episode.
 
Goku was uneducated, irgnorant and naive.

In no way was he stupid.

He was a kid who grew up alone. But he always displayed extremely sharp thinking, and genius when it came to fighting strategies.

He was never an idiot.

Super likes to make him pass for an empty head though.

Also that saiyan backstory is extremely interesting.

I mean you are right just look at the Cell Saga to see Goku has wit
 
OH, that's what Champa is doing in universe 7. I guess it was going to be revealed later.

Yeah but has a reason for this been revealed

it could easily be that
U6 is in dire problems and only super wishes with no limits can save it
 
Yeah but has a reason for this been revealed

it could easily be that
U6 is in dire problems and only super wishes with no limits can save it

I just assume these dragon balls can do something that normal dragon balls cannot. Not unlimited wishes but probably something else. But what wish has explicitly been stated by Shenron as being impossible for him?
 
I just assume these dragon balls can do something that normal dragon balls cannot. Not unlimited wishes but probably something else. But what wish has explicitly been stated by Shenron as being impossible for him?

I meant
unlimited as in without any limit on what you are asking for, not in amount of wishes.
 
I meant
unlimited as in without any limit on what you are asking for, not in amount of wishes.

Ah okay, sorry for the misunderstanding!

I really do hope the new saiyan has a completely new transformation based on their
evolution of the saiyan form
. Maybe it will be the level Goku and Vegeta aspire to reach next.
 
Vegeta: What is this…?! Now we only have 4 people over here!
Goku: You’re the one who suggested a written exam…!
Vegeta: Sh-shit!

dammit vegeta
 
I just assume these dragon balls can do something that normal dragon balls cannot. Not unlimited wishes but probably something else. But what wish has explicitly been stated by Shenron as being impossible for him?

Shenron can't resurrect people from death by natural causes, nor can he kill anyone stronger than his creator. could be either of those, but it's probably something else.
 
Shenron can't resurrect people from death by natural causes, nor can he kill anyone stronger than his creator. could be either of those, but it's probably something else.

The Super Dragon Balls can grant "any wish without limit".

Okay, they're obviously bringing back someone evil who was once destroyed by Beerus/Champa. Or the new dragon balls will be used to wish for the creation of one.
 
The ozaru form has absolutely no benefits now. It's makes them uncontrollable and reckless.

I thought it only made untrained sayians uncontrollable and reckless( kid Goku and Gohan). During the sayian saga Vegeta was able to transform and keep his intelligence/ability to speak.
 
If Champa is getting involved
it must be something important.

Particularly if the emperor is playing ball too

There's also the part where they only have
6 of the super dragon balls, so it goes

-U7 Earth gets plucked to U7

-surprise, things are super sucky in U6

-the cast is roped in to gather the last super dragon ball
 
What would people think if Cabe ends up being female and attains SSB or soething similar and permanently joins the DBS cast to fight aong them?
 
Every single one from Universe 7 is going to get fucked up. The bears gonna make Goku into his bitch, the little Saiyan is gonna tear Vegeta a new one and the rest aren't even worth mentioning.

Goku is mentally handicapped so don't know why Vegeta decided to complete a written test. It's actually interesting that Vegetas academic ability is never mentioned, I assume he's smart as is Trunks but that would be due to Bulma. Gohan ended up very clever but the rest of his family are hillbillies.

I watched the latest episode and enjoyed Vegeta beating up Freeza, but I really can see what people mean by the animation being poor. And the voice acting was horrible, when Vegeta was powering up the dude sounded like a vibrator.
 
I thought it only made untrained sayians uncontrollable and reckless( kid Goku and Gohan). During the sayian saga Vegeta was able to transform and keep his intelligence/ability to speak.

I guess but it seems like the ozaru form is rooted in the evil intentions of the saiyans. The fact that the saiyans only seem to become stronger when they lose their tails and finally achieve super saiyan may indicate the ozaru form was holding the race back. Hopefully
this will be expanded on in Super if they do properly detail why the saiyans evolved without tails in universe 6
.

It's still a part of the saiyan race (it's referenced when Gohan goes ssj2 & Goku goes ssj3) but seems to link with their rage and lust rather than their compassion and selflessness.
 
Well as someone said here, it would be SO cool if they make the super saiyan god ritual origins from that internal conflict of evil saiyans (planet vegeta) versus planet salad. That would justify Kyabe being a god too !!! It'd be really funny to see Goku and Vegeta (or rather Trunks and Goten) being heroes mercenaries in U6.

Kyabe is so 100% male.
 
I think Frost is much stronger than Freeza.

For me the only way to make Kyabe relevant is for his Saiya people to have known the God ritual.

Frost is the emperor of a universe that was aware of Super Saiyan Gods. So it is very likely that he did train, unlike Freeza. Good or Evil, he knew people were stronger so he most likely trained and got better.
 
If Kyabe is like
"Super Saiyan God? Oh, we attained that years ago. All you have to do is hold hands. Do you Saiyans not hold hands?"
it would be perfect. I hope he got it accidentally.
 
I too, want to see a different powerup from the freiza race person. I mean, Golden frieza is a pretty unhygenic powerup if you think about it. It's like sympathetic nervous system activation on steroids. Urinary system is shut off but that urine has to go somewhere.

Who knows if frieza even knew what his "transformation" was about. Given that his scientists didn't even knew about robot ki, it's possible no one around him had any clue about this either.
 
I too, want to see a different powerup from the freiza race person. I mean, Golden frieza is a pretty unhygenic powerup if you think about it. It's like sympathetic nervous system activation on steroids. Urinary system is shut off but that urine has to go somewhere.

lol I love this.
 
I mean you are right just look at the Cell Saga to see Goku has wit

Or Dragon Ball in general. Goku is a genius/prodigy at fighting. He copied the Kamehameha after seeing it once. It took years for Krillin and Yamcha to achieve that. His fights were incredible in DB. Goku vs Roshi, Tien, and etc. His fight vs Roshi was very impressive since he was on par with him and out smarting him.

Cell Saga, Goku thought it was best to make Super Saiyan 1 a natural state and it was highly effective. It was a shame he never did that for the other 2 forms.
 
It's hilarious to me that we're getting more detail for the universe 6 empire and universe structure than we ever did for Frieza's.

Though I suppose we might get some more stuff with Jaco, eventually?
 
Huh. Big spoilers about the new Saiyan and Saiyans in general, both from Universe 6 and 7.

The Saiyans didn't originate from planet Vegeta, but from planet Salada. In Universe 7, apparently Salada was destroyed by in-fighting and they invaded Plant/Vegeta, but in Universe 6 Salada still exists.

Caba's outfit is the standard Saiyan armor from before the Vegeta invasion and joining Freeza's empire.

Universe 6 Saiyans lost their tails due to evolution. Cabe hasn't heard about Freeza, and Saiyans in Universe 6 are actually known as a heroic mercenaries that travel through space to defeat villains.

This reminds me that GT's backstory had the Saiyans randomly coming from elsewhere to invade planet Vegeta, rather than coexisting with the Plant people like in Z's version. Now I'm wondering if that had anything to do with Toriyama's original concepts for the whole plant backstory which was given to Toei and used in filler, but never used in the manga...
This is the most interesting Dragon Ball stuff in a long time, really excited to see where this goes. Love the entire Universe 6 team as well.
 
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