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This isn't true, it was a misreporting from a random blog of a placeholder number on Toei's website.
you should watch DB it is really good
AlimNassor
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Vegeta will never not try to surpass Goku. It's too ingrained into him, it'd be like Goku not fighting anymore.
Sure. But I think of it like this: even though it's a new series, in the timeline, Buu was just defeated. After almost every arc we get a couple of episodes of peacetime "filler". Sometimes they're good, other times they're a slog. That's all these first two episodes are, and I'm fine with that. I personally think they've been pretty good!
It could have been a lot worse. I'm actually surprised we're getting the BOG retelling after only two episodes. I was expecting a Mr. Satan centric episode, and possibly a Tien episode. Guess not
Amentallica
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No, I've listened to it and I can't remember a single track. Nothing stood out nor appealed to me. But I guess that's just my "ignorance" manifesting because I simply don't agree with you. Get a grip.
Faulconer's score worked best for me given what DBZ is.
shadowsdarknes
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Agreed. Ive heard the Japanese tracks a ton. I just don't find them memorable.
On the contrary, some of the Faulconer tracks have really been incredibly memorable.
Toriyama Forgot
DarknessTear
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Pankratous
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Yeah, seriously. 100% on this.
DiipuSurotu
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Sure. But I think of it like this: even though it's a new series, in the timeline, Buu was just defeated. After almost every arc we get a couple of episodes of peacetime "filler". Sometimes they're good, other times they're a slog. That's all these first two episodes are, and I'm fine with that. I personally think they've been pretty good!
It could have been a lot worse. I'm actually surprised we're getting the BOG retelling after only two episodes. I was expecting a Mr. Satan centric episode, and possibly a Tien episode. Guess not
Filler doesn't equal peacetime. The whole Garlic Jr. saga was filler for example.
That was filler. Didn't happen in the manga.
He does ask Dr. Briefs to make a 300g room, but the only time we see him in it he's struggling to even stand.
Amentallica
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I thought when infiltrating Babidi's palace that Vegeta mentions to that henchman he's fighting, who transforms the room to his home planet, that he's trained at 400g. Am I misremembering?
ArchedThunder
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He only says that the 10g they change the room to is nothing.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, I thought he might have said that too. Thanks.
You can like the American score just fine without talking about something you don't know enough about. Listening to just a score pointless.
Amentallica
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What do I need to "know enough about" the Japanese soundtrack to further convince myself that I do not like it based off what I already heard by watching the show and YouTubing the soundtracks separately? What a stupid thing to say.
The Japanese soundtrack, to me, fucking sucks (exaggerated for your annoyance), and I hope that my opinion continues to hurt your feelings, as it apparently does.
And to further clarify, I find the Japanese soundtrack to be fine as something separate from DBZ, but together the two don't appeal to me in the same way that Faulconer's score with DBZ does.
KidA Seven
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Faulconer sucks ass too
Aaron Strife
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion
Faulconer's score is terrible and these first two episodes have been great. Glad we're already getting into BoG stuff next episode.
Faulconer's score is terrible and these first two episodes have been great. Glad we're already getting into BoG stuff next episode.
Sure, it'd be like judging you for being so strange right now when I don't know you at all.
Context is insanely important have you ever watched Japanese Dragon Ball before now? If not then you don't really know the show the score is behind. If you have then you do have more of a point, but you don't need to be insulting about it.
Amentallica
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And I agree that everyone's entitled to their opinion. I didn't condemn anyone for liking the Japanese soundtrack.
Regarding the new series, I haven't heard or seen anything yet, so I'm excited to see/hear it.
I don't like the Japanese soundtrack coupled with the show, but separately what I've heard is fine. I watched Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball z in Japanese (not entirely) many years ago. I don't need a Ph.D. in music nor do I need a deep philosophical understanding of the show or culture to know that the music was not appealing to my senses. It's not hard to understand.
And I wasn't the one being insulting when you were the one who called me out for being "ignorant" for disliking something you have vested interest in.
Amentallica
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That's the one thing that drives me mad about Kai - the soundtrack. Wish it was Faulconer's score, then I would actually still watch Kai rather than sit through the dreadful original cut.
I should be clear that I was talking Shunsuke Kikuchi and not myself.
But it's clear we think differently and seeing as you know more than I had assumed, I'll drop it.
Parallax Scroll
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You can go on youtube and watch battles from Kai edited to use Faulconer's soundtrack. It actually doesn't work very well at all. Faulconer's soundtrack was deliberately written to go with the slow-paced scenes DBZ is famous for - the camera pans, the standing and staring. With the faster pace of Kai it just doesn't work.
Don't think about it too hard. Toriyama didn't.
Amentallica
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Then the soundtrack would have to be cut in a unique way, too. lol
How's the soundtrack for Dragon Ball S?
Parallax Scroll
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I like the opening and closing credit themes but I can't remember what the background music sounds like at all.
Just checked the manga, the room was at 150G when Trunks smacked him in the face for the amusement park trip.
Hypemaster
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Yeah it's cool to see them age as you do.
Kyleripman
Member
I guess I could be on board with Vegeta's renewed competition with Goku if it takes the form of a healthier competition. I would love a friendly rematch between them at some point (love the idea of a multi-universe tournament that somebody posted earlier).
This is the truth. General Blue was great.
This is the truth. General Blue was great.
Stereogatari
Banned
Is Super Saiyan God Vegeta and Goku fused? Because that's my theory.
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What was the sub group called?
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Xpike
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its goku with red hair and blue hair super saiyan
Because it's been in the last 2 movies
This is...a lie.
Compared to Falconer's overbearing garbage, I can remember plenty of themes that played during episode and movies for the subs, though I have no idea what the themes are called. They do a much better job setting the tones for so many scenes that just didn't make the transition over to the dubs.
The only good track Falconer ever made was for Perfect Cell. That dramatic piano theme of his is hilariously cheesy. Everything else is shit.
Kyleripman
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I prefer the Japanese music and that's how I watch the show nowadays, but I have to admit that Falcouner's score for Goku going SSJ3 was also legit.
ArtHands
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The original DB chapters/episodes started with Goku fishing for fish and defeating random dinosaur(s).
I'll give it another listen.
Polioliolio
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I'm not angry, just disappointed.. And it's not because there aren't fights.
It's objectively more for children now that it was before (has been post Janemba-ish). And not in a whimsical fun way, but in a lazy, this isn't very good, kind of way. Like Teletubbies.
Still going to cringe and watch it though and hope it gets better or I warm up to it or something.
When they flashed back to Vegeta and Trunks training, I was like "Oh wow, that looks so good.. why can't it look like that?'
Here's the whole scene
So good...
edit: I also wonder if an English localization (dub and script) might improve this show for me.. Usually I prefer the Japanese original tracks, but the characters in Super feel a lot shallower than they used to be. Trunks and Goten into babies (they were 7 and 8 at the beginning of Buu!.. Now they're like 4 and 3 year olds).. Videl no longer a badass.. And I'm sorry.. I really don't like that King Kai. He doesn't even fit his animations.. Definitely needs a livelier voice actor... But yeah, if they do a work over on the script and give the characters more personality, I can see it solving a lot of the problems I have with it.
I Would like to know this as well. please.
LordOfChaos
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Interestingly Vegeta is already training at 150x gravity there, and doing quite well at it, while in this Super episode he tired out very quickly. Saiyans are supposed to get stronger with each fight that brings them close to death, so that was weird.
Welfare
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Vegeta was a SSJ in that Buu clip. Only fight after that he survived to get a Zenkai was Kid Buu, and Super is only a short time after that. His base probably still can't handle it as much as his Buu Saga SSJ form
LordOfChaos
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I guess that's it, thought of it after posting. But why not train as a SSJ then? Is there a benefit to training in base form vs super saiyan?
Welfare
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Getting better in base means the SSJ forms get better as well. Working on the base form would be more beneficial as the conditions are harder on the body.
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